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techno_smack
19-06-2004, 12:19 PM
i have been hearing all about getting the kick to control compression on the bass or other sounds so it can cut through more and give that pumping effect. But does anyone know how to do this on reason? i cant seem to figure it out.

Any help much appreciated

cheers

idontlikeitinthathole
20-06-2004, 12:00 AM
Reason 2.5 does not have a sidechain on the compressor. You can't easily do what you're asking.

On the other hand, Reason 2.5 does have a vocoder with 16 CV outputs for the 16 frequency bands. Theoretically if you merge these 16 CV outputs together (using five Spider CV's), you obtain a CV which corresponds to the overall volume of the input. If you invert that CV (again using a Spider CV), then merge it with a constant high CV (say, from a Matrix curve with one step), you get a CV which is high when there's no signal, and low when there is signal. Connect that CV to the "Level CV In" of a mixer, and you get a channel that is attenuated when the input to the vocoder is loud. So if you were to connect your bass to the mixer channel, and your bass drum to the vocoder, when the drum hits, the bass will be automatically reduced in volume. This might work well for you.

The Divide
20-06-2004, 01:27 AM
Reason 2.5 does not have a sidechain on the compressor. You can't easily do what you're asking.

On the other hand, Reason 2.5 does have a vocoder with 16 CV outputs for the 16 frequency bands. Theoretically if you merge these 16 CV outputs together (using five Spider CV's), you obtain a CV which corresponds to the overall volume of the input. If you invert that CV (again using a Spider CV), then merge it with a constant high CV (say, from a Matrix curve with one step), you get a CV which is high when there's no signal, and low when there is signal. Connect that CV to the "Level CV In" of a mixer, and you get a channel that is attenuated when the input to the vocoder is loud. So if you were to connect your bass to the mixer channel, and your bass drum to the vocoder, when the drum hits, the bass will be automatically reduced in volume. This might work well for you.

Quality

techno_smack
20-06-2004, 04:32 AM
Thank you so much, Thats just the ticket. Im off to try it out.

Cheers mate, I knew there must be a way. :lol:

MARKEG
20-06-2004, 11:13 PM
that's brilliant!

networkacid
21-06-2004, 11:14 AM
Fark someone thought long and hard on that one! RESPECT! :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

networkacid
26-06-2004, 08:07 AM
After playing around with this, and consulting the Vocoder instructions, this can be even simpler:

Set the Vocoder to 4 band mode - Now you only need to merge the 1st 4 CV outputs, using 1 Spider CV unit (instead of all 16 using 5 of them!)

Plus you can use that same Spider to invert the signal, meaning you only need to use 2 Spiders in total to make this work, instead of 7.

It really works!

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