Chris Cowie: HOOKED ON TECHNO

[loopdon]

an interview i found ;)

[go|plastic]

http://remixmag.com/mag/remix_hooked_techno/

[dirty_bass]

The sooner that vinyl is gone, the better it will be for everyone. From a label's point of view, it costs us nearly $1,000 just to mail out 300 records. If every DJ in the world used something like Final Scratch, we could send them a high-quality 256kB MP3 file for nothing. As soon as vinyl is gone, it will be easier for new talent to become established. DJs can do instant remixes. It's amazing what you can do. You can add in effects plug-ins or a drum machine that's constantly in time with the record. We're still using technology that was invented in 1870. It's ridiculous. I have no love affair with vinyl whatsoever. It's just a piece of plastic, and it's not good for the environment.


Man talks sense.

[dan the acid man]

thats a good read :cool:

[loopdon]

http://remixmag.com/mag/remix_hooked_techno/

did i really really forget to post the link itself :oops: :oops: :oops:

omg :shock:

;) ;) ;)

[Milesy]

lol ur getting old loopdon :bash: :wtf:

im sorry... but i lurve vinyl. have done for 10 years.
why do people like old cars? why do people like analogue synths?
new isnt always best....

people fly in planes that were invented a lot longer before vinyl.
why are we not inventing rocket machines for public transport
and 'fly' teleporters. because planes are simple. easy to use
and they whats on the tin with no frills....

long live vinyl... dave clarke and his chin stroking mob who would
follow him off a cliff if he went can go and make love to their
compact discs :evil:

p.s i like final scratch because i can get music easily and
transport it easily.. but still get hands on!

moan the vinyl' :notworthy: :protest: :notworthy: :protest: :snooty:

[j_s]

lol ur getting old loopdon :bash: :wtf:

im sorry... but i lurve vinyl. have done for 10 years.
why do people like old cars? why do people like analogue synths?


because people are nostalgic and afraid to let go of the things they love, even though they may have no real use.......

[Barely Human]

people fly in planes that were invented a lot longer before vinyl.
why are we not inventing rocket machines for public transport
and 'fly' teleporters. because planes are simple. easy to use
and they whats on the tin with no frills....



Im sorry, but that metaphor doesnt even relate to the argument at all. Why are we still using planes? Because something better hasnt been invented yet. If there was teleporters, you would use them.

If you cant see the huge benefits of digital mixing, then i suggest you get a midi controller and a copy of ableton, and see how much more creative you can be in your mixes.

Dont get me wrong, i love vinyl, but for a different reason. I am an avid turntablist, and i love creating things on the turntables. On the other hand, for mixing, its just a ball ache, thats all it is, and its no more impressive watching someone mix 2 tracks on the decks than watching dust collect on your collection.

Here's my pro's and cons -

Vinyl

Pros -

Can be fun
Got a uniuqe hands on aproach
You end up with a huge record collection that your proud of
Scratching/Beat juggling

Cons -

Expensive
Sounds dated
Limited possibities
Tracks get scratched, Jump, and get worn
Record boxes are heavy
Expensive to press
Hard to distribute
Mixing 2 records isnt that creative
The average person thinks its hard to do, and gives respect for something most people can pick up.

Digital Mixing

Pros -

High sound quality
Highly creative
Fun
Laptops are easy to carry
Music can be distributed quickly and cheaply
Original

Cons -

Laptops can crash
Some peoples attitudes

Thing is, whether you like it or not, digital mixing is the way of the future. Vinyl has had its best days, and its kind of sad to see it go. But i always look towards the future, evolution, and progress, which is what techno,(to me), is all about...

[go|plastic]

did i really really forget to post the link itself :oops: :oops: :oops:

Don't worry bro, it happens ;)

Good read that interview btw.

[Milesy]

people fly in planes that were invented a lot longer before vinyl.
why are we not inventing rocket machines for public transport
and 'fly' teleporters. because planes are simple. easy to use
and they whats on the tin with no frills....



Im sorry, but that metaphor doesnt even relate to the argument at all. Why are we still using planes? Because something better hasnt been invented yet. If there was teleporters, you would use them.

If you cant see the huge benefits of digital mixing, then i suggest you get a midi controller and a copy of ableton, and see how much more creative you can be in your mixes.

Dont get me wrong, i love vinyl, but for a different reason. I am an avid turntablist, and i love creating things on the turntables. On the other hand, for mixing, its just a ball ache, thats all it is, and its no more impressive watching someone mix 2 tracks on the decks than watching dust collect on your collection.

Here's my pro's and cons -

Vinyl

Pros -

Can be fun
Got a uniuqe hands on aproach
You end up with a huge record collection that your proud of
Scratching/Beat juggling

Cons -

Expensive
Sounds dated
Limited possibities
Tracks get scratched, Jump, and get worn
Record boxes are heavy
Expensive to press
Hard to distribute
Mixing 2 records isnt that creative
The average person thinks its hard to do, and gives respect for something most people can pick up.

Digital Mixing

Pros -

High sound quality
Highly creative
Fun
Laptops are easy to carry
Music can be distributed quickly and cheaply
Original

Cons -

Laptops can crash
Some peoples attitudes

Thing is, whether you like it or not, digital mixing is the way of the future. Vinyl has had its best days, and its kind of sad to see it go. But i always look towards the future, evolution, and progress, which is what techno,(to me), is all about...

it relates in my opinion :nono: :lol:

[dirty_bass]

people fly in planes that were invented a lot longer before vinyl.
why are we not inventing rocket machines for public transport
and 'fly' teleporters. because planes are simple. easy to use
and they whats on the tin with no frills....



Im sorry, but that metaphor doesnt even relate to the argument at all. Why are we still using planes? Because something better hasnt been invented yet. If there was teleporters, you would use them.

If you cant see the huge benefits of digital mixing, then i suggest you get a midi controller and a copy of ableton, and see how much more creative you can be in your mixes.

Dont get me wrong, i love vinyl, but for a different reason. I am an avid turntablist, and i love creating things on the turntables. On the other hand, for mixing, its just a ball ache, thats all it is, and its no more impressive watching someone mix 2 tracks on the decks than watching dust collect on your collection.

Here's my pro's and cons -

Vinyl

Pros -

Can be fun
Got a uniuqe hands on aproach
You end up with a huge record collection that your proud of
Scratching/Beat juggling

Cons -

Expensive
Sounds dated
Limited possibities
Tracks get scratched, Jump, and get worn
Record boxes are heavy
Expensive to press
Hard to distribute
Mixing 2 records isnt that creative
The average person thinks its hard to do, and gives respect for something most people can pick up.

Digital Mixing

Pros -

High sound quality
Highly creative
Fun
Laptops are easy to carry
Music can be distributed quickly and cheaply
Original

Cons -

Laptops can crash
Some peoples attitudes

Thing is, whether you like it or not, digital mixing is the way of the future. Vinyl has had its best days, and its kind of sad to see it go. But i always look towards the future, evolution, and progress, which is what techno,(to me), is all about...


Hoooray, someone with their head firmly in the new millenium!!!!

Welcome!!

If only more people would realise that techno is about progression, not regression or stagnation.

[loopdon]

vinyl makes things so difficult.

our scene would look quite different if it were cd-based, i'm sure.
not sure about whether would be any profit to be made???

i do like vinyl but if you gave me a cdplayer with a vinyl-feel to it,
i wouldn't hesitate using that.

i could more easily play my trax then and mix them with bought ones,
that would be great!

i guess that's the future then, i can almost only see advantages!

[Komplex]

vinyl makes things so difficult.

our scene would look quite different if it were cd-based, i'm sure.
not sure about whether would be any profit to be made???

i do like vinyl but if you gave me a cdplayer with a vinyl-feel to it,
i wouldn't hesitate using that.

i could more easily play my trax then and mix them with bought ones,
that would be great!

i guess that's the future then, i can almost only see advantages!


Well (apparently) there isn't that much profit to be made right now so its a win win situation really.

[rounser]

I read recently that there's an environmental agreement in place to ensure that the petroleum by-product used to make vinyl is going to be phased out by 2009, so unless they find a cheap replacement material by then, vinyl and 1200s may be on the way out regardless of what DJs and labels do...save for the odd oldskool set.

[j_s]

I read recently that there's an environmental agreement in place to ensure that the petroleum by-product used to make vinyl is going to be phased out by 2009, so unless they find a cheap replacement material by then, vinyl and 1200s may be on the way out regardless of what DJs and labels do...save for the odd oldskool set.

interesting. wheredyou read that?

[rounser]

interesting. wheredyou read that?
Here's the link... (http://jymixradio.nwnchat.com/nuke2/html/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=4)

Vinyl Farewell


It looks as though audiophiles may have to resign themselves to the fact that in a few years time there will be only the chance to fondly re-live the good old days of nostalgia, rather than experience the new. Vinyl, the medium that took over from Shellac, Bakelite and even earlier the wax pressing, has had its final play – well, almost. The year 2009, looks set to be the final turn in the long standing vinyl revolution.

A June 2003 press release from The Institute of Chemical Engineering, advised that key by- products of the current petroleum refining process would no longer be generated by 2009, due to deadlines agreed, in principle, with the chemical industry back in 1992. These deadlines were however, only finalised in 1999, in the face of increasing environmental concerns and lobbying.

The IoCE went on to advise that a voluntary co-funded research and development program to seek a green alternative, possibly a polycarbonate based compound had been proposed in the 1999 summary. However no members of the industry wide syndicate had been able to substantiate a sufficiently high market demand for a replacement for the petroleum by-product, which is the primary base for vinyl record albums.


MORE..............

Whilst concluding that the news marked “The end of an era for vinyl”, a spokesperson of music retailing giants Tower Records advised that with sales of collective vinyl products accounted for less than a third of a percent (0.28%) of their total music sales World-wide in the last accounting period. “Hardest hit will be the few remaining traditionalist vinyl Disc Jockeys” Tower Records confirmed.

Tower replied positively when asked if this early warning would mean a silence in the thousands of DJ booths and radio stations around the world. “For some, existing skills will need to be adapted for use with the rapidly advancing Compact Disc DJ equipment” continued Towers spokesperson., “it promises to be a very exciting transition as older techniques are retained and used alongside the plethora of new features that CD technology already offers todays forward thinking DJ’s and turntablists”. Towers spokesperson added “It is unlikely that we will continue to carry vinyl into 2009. We believe the needs of the DJ will be totally digital, in one medium or another, prior to the cessation date.”“

Radio stations and other areas of the broadcasting community are unlikely to be affected by this early warning of environmental issues validating the need for minor lifestyle changes either,. since almost a of the music played in a modern broadcast scenario is primarily CD, or from Digital archives owned under licence by the larger radio stations.
:shock:

[xfive]

The 2009 end of vinyl thing is a confirmed hoax.

;)