Does hard techno necessarily have to be dance music?

[AcidTrash]

I love it when techno is waaay too fast but I can't dance to the stuff.

[koma]

why you can't dance on it?

[Frank Dogshit]

jus best not exhausting yourself to much and just nod your head quickly.

[AcidTrash]

I'm still a headbanger at heart

[dan the acid man]

hard doesnt = fast :doh:

you can really hard dark techno thats 130bpm

[dan the acid man]

you can have that should have said :doh:

[AcidTrash]

I get a bit bored of slow techno. Hardness isn't everything.

[dirty_bass]

I can`t stand the fast stuff, unless it`s so fast that it kinda goes into half time.
Generally the production sucks as well, as it`s hard to get room into the mix, so it kinda just ends up being noise, which is cool I suppose, but I did all that back in my industrial days, and it wasn`t clever.
Once it hits a certain speed it just loses it`s impact I think, and to a certian extent, the faster it goes the more drug oriented it is, mostly anyway.

If your gonna go down that route you need to check out the people who have been at it for years. Industrial Strength Records, and the old Dynamica stuff.
Ultraviolence was pretty well produced for hard and fast.

[AcidTrash]

I havent been into drugs for about a year now and the music I listen to seems to be getting progressively faster. rattling percussion really does it for me.

[RedRob]

I havent been into drugs for about a year now and the music I listen to seems to be getting progressively faster. rattling percussion really does it for me.

i stopped all the drink and drugs there just under a year ago(spliffs and beer included), bought a set of decks at the same time. started mixin at about 130bpm first, got faster and harder, now im mixin at anywhere up to 165bm and the harder, faster and noisier the better. there is some stuff that does just sound crap like a big load of mush, compressed to death but for the most part i love it. has to still be interesting though, dont like the no brainer stuff. if im out and its not hard or fast enough it doesnt do it for me at all. started buyin a couple of hardcore/speedcore tunes of late and that shit is savage, not enough of it here in dublin though. hafta do something bout that i tink......

[Esox Lucius]

hard doesnt necessarily mean fast, robert hood plays fast techno but not what i would class as 'hard' so much

generally im not into faster stuff, i prefer it slower with a bit more depth.

as for it being dance music, well if it makes you dance then i suppose it is.

[SlavikSvensk]

to each their own, but i like my techno generally slower than you usually hear. let's the subtleties of a complex rhythm come through...

[FUSION]

Ultraviolence was pretty well produced for hard and fast.

1000 BEATS PER MINUTE IN YOUR FUKIN FAAACE :twisted:

[FUSION]

rekon techno`s fine fast (ish) from a euro hard tek point of view but whens its stupid fast clean sounding acid techno it just sounds like hard house IMO

[Mindful]

To me techno isnt just dance music it can be more of a deeper music if you want it to be but if im in a club I wanna dance so I expect the music to be danceble.

On the subject of speed I prefer it slower(between 120 and 140)but can dance to any speed realy I just prefere to groove than stomp(thats because ive got some good moves :lol: )

[Mindful]

so no hard techno doesnt have to be dance music a good thing about techno is do what the fuk you want wit it(within reason)

[stjohn]

i started out mixing/listening to hardcare @ 175 - 200 bpm, but swiftly moved onward. as dirty was talkin about, i like the half beat fast stuff kinda like harcore hip hop.

but fast techno i'm not mad about, it looses its groove after 145 bpm i think, be less room for sound or people makin it fast n hard, just to be fast n hard

IMO

[fatcollective]

I love it when techno is waaay too fast but I can't dance to the stuff.

probably cause ya cant dance at all :lol:

[AcidTrash]

not in your poxy club I can't! the ceilings too ****in low!!

[Mindful]

:lol: lanky git

[jonnyspeed]

give us a clue what's differnt BPM?? Acid Techno is like 160? D&B/Harcore 180? Elektro 130? what's 150? i really dunt know - anybody counted?

[RDR]

I get a bit bored of slow techno. Hardness isn't everything.

tell the ladies that...

(sorry, thought i'd lower the tone a bit...)

As for hardness, i like using the word tough instead.

[tocsin]

Most of the hardcore I spun (or still do on occassion) was 200bpm minimum. I like the underproduced quality of a lot of it as well. It's hardcore techno. It wasn't about studio tricks as much as it was just raw energy. Despite some of the really clean/well-produced hardcore I've heard come out over the years, none of the tracks have come close to hitting me the same way the raw and loud D.O.A. tracks did. I wish the curviving members were still consistently putting out music. Kinda felt like an era/scene almost died with them out here.

[gunjack]

AMOK IS KEEPING THIS SOUND ALIVE. LOOK FOR SOME CRAZY HARD MADNESS COMING FROM GUNJACK AND AMOK IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS!!!! : )

[The Overfiend]

Brian and Ben :?: :!: :?: :!:

[holotropik]

I agree with the comments made about how when giving up the drugs the tunes you listen to change as well.

I recently went clean during which I suffered much anxiety coz I thought that I may lose touch with the music. Much to my surprise I found that I went from listening to Funky tech at about 130bpm back to listening to "tough" darker techno above 140bpm - which is what I used to like when I first started listening to tech....??

Interesting how others have also found this phenomenon (makes me think i am not crazy after all)....hehehe.

[rotten]

Let's :dance: , put on your red shoes!! :doh:

[DJAmok]

140, 150, 160, 170.....


it's all good as long as there is love in it. ...or hate, which can be cool too at times.

As for dancing, different speeds require different moves. So far I've seen people dance to everything from 130 to 180.

[Internal Error Records]

imo techno doesnt 'have' to be dance music. but it does have to have some funk or some swing.... which by default makes it danceable.

Cant have an apple without having an apple core!