£350 to spend on new mixer

[state]

Im a complete newbie to mixing so dont want to be put off with loads of buttons/nobs every where. Mt mate has this really sexy looking mixer. I aint got a clue what to buy. HELP

[FUSION]

aim hi check ebay go for a djm 600 simple to use you will be around the efx sharpish I got a droped off a lorry one off off ebay for 300 quid

[DJ Corbzy]

get a x:32 or a second hand mk1 x:one62...

allen & heath mixers ooze quality...

[MARK NEENAN]

get a x:32 or a second hand mk1 x:one62...

allen & heath mixers ooze quality...

Word!

[dan the acid man]

would be going some if he gtes these mixers for that money, id say go for one of the ecler nuo's

http://www.djempire.co.uk/prodinfo.php?ProdID=3955

i think ive seen this cheaper somewhere else too

[DJ Corbzy]

350??

You'd defo get a x:one32...and u'd find a really old style mk1 x:one62 for that I reckon, if not a newer version with the slimmer knobs if someone was selling desperate...

Now the x:one92 is out, that's the one everyone wants even more!!

[dan the acid man]

i'd still recommend the ecler, never liked the corssfaders on allen and heath mixers.

i also wouldnt recommend pioner djm mixers for him, eve though i like them, he wants something without too many knobs and settings

[Barely Human]

Did someone say Ecler?? :love: :love: :love: :love:

[RDR]

i'd still recommend the ecler, never liked the corssfaders on allen and heath mixers.

i also wouldnt recommend pioner djm mixers for him, eve though i like them, he wants something without too many knobs and settings

Agreed, I DONT like using the Allen and Heath mixers, those bloody volume faders take around 4 days to reach the end of their travel.

They didnt really think the design of them through IMO. They're fiddly and unpleasant to use. Tiny sodding buttons and the useage isnt transparent, especially for a new DJ. Yes, before ya'll start, every mixer has a learning curve, but the allen and heaths i've used (i havent used all of them..) felt much more fiddly that usual.

The DJM rocks. But ill have a look at the Ecler.

[eyes without a face]

allen heath are kings of the mixer world, doesnt really get much better, makes the djm feel like a kids toy

i like both but there's no denying the Allen Heaths are built to an extremely high quality and are a joy to mix on

[RDR]

allen heath are kings of the mixer world, doesnt really get much better, makes the djm feel like a kids toy

i like both but there's no denying the Allen Heaths are built to an extremely high quality and are a joy to mix on

I aint doubting the quality, what i doubt is the layout of the mixer, the size of the buttons on there, the fader travel... 100mm UP faders? Thats NOT right. True, they have the advantage of slightly better volume fading.

What you are forgetting is that Allen and Heath make studio consoles to an amazing standard, i'd kill for one personally. BUT, although they apply the same standard to the DJ mixer in terms of quality, it looks like they didnt make the physical design very intellgent. I want my mixer to blend with me, not get in the way, i want to have to look at it only when striclty necessary. And this is what it does for me.

Also, the filters on the Allen and Heath are superb, but badly implemented. In fact its the same on the 600. GREAT filters, badly implemented. I mean - how ****nig hard is it to put an LFO AND a manual control. BUT NOOO, neither of these companies did it. Dont get me wrong, i know how to modulate a manual filter by hand......

And why on earth hasnt anyone botherd with parametric EQs yet?????

IMO.

[Barely Human]

And why on earth hasnt anyone botherd with parametric EQs yet?????

IMO.

Parametric EQ's have been on Battle mixers for years -

http://www.son-video.com/Rayons/Hifi/DJ/Vestax/PMC07Pro.jpg

http://djservice.com/data/grafix/Produkte/STANTON/Stanton_SMX/Stanton_SA-5_4.jpg

[RDR]

Those are paragraphic Eqs Al.

Paramteric is and EQ where you can select a frequency and choose to boost or attenuate.

But i think im teaching my grandmother to suck eggs here... ;)

[Barely Human]

Ah ****, wasnt even thinking mate :doh: :lol:

[eyes without a face]

im pretty oldskool, i dont particulary use many effects and as long as the mixer has 2 channels, a strong fader and eq im happy, and a couple of extra mm on the faders is the least of my worries when it comes to a mixer, id rather that than a mixer like the 600 which, altho being fun to use, does feel like its going to snap in ur hands at any minute

ive used both many and it just always comes out on top for me definately, i cant wait to get one

i'd say the reason no ones gotten into parametic eq's on their mixers yet because its alot more complicated for your average dj mixer, those who really dont understand it are happy with a 3 band eq, altho you and others may wish to boost and reduce certain frequencies in the mix im guessing that not enough people have even thought about it enough for it to fruition into a viable idea never mind a product

mixers are a personal thing, you cant tell someone what to use and what not to use, go to your local music store with a few of ur fave records and get them to give you a few demonstrations before you part with any money

[cascade]

try ecler like ppl have said, great qualiy mixer.
or djm-707, nothing to fancy on it, just great fader controls and pioneer quality
:!:

[RDR]

and a couple of extra mm on the faders is the least of my worries when it comes to a mixer,

Fair enuff. Do you gain pump?


i'd say the reason no ones gotten into parametic eq's on their mixers yet because its alot more complicated for your average dj mixer,


I disagree with that. anyone will use something when presented with it. Thats like saying you shouldnt put sat nav into a car cos no-one can use it, without even testing the theory.

[TechMouse]

We've got an Ecler, and I'm not a big fan to be honest.

I don't like the way the PFL works.

[dan the acid man]

We've got an Ecler, and I'm not a big fan to be honest.

I don't like the way the PFL works.

what dont you like about it :?:

[TechMouse]

We've got an Ecler, and I'm not a big fan to be honest.

I don't like the way the PFL works.

what dont you like about it :?:

I like being able to fade between the PFL and the master out, in the headphones.

[Aratron]

i'd appreciate some advice.
im spending around £300 on a new mixer.
well im getting it on the never never.
its for beat matching, and the mixer that i seem to be drawn towards is the Stanton 304
however i like the Denon DNX 300 aswell.
Vestax pcv 275 , ecler nuo2, pioneer djm 202, all round about the same price.
i realise its a personal choice. but m interested in your views . cheers

[schlongfingers]

and a couple of extra mm on the faders is the least of my worries when it comes to a mixer,

Fair enuff. Do you gain pump?


i'd say the reason no ones gotten into parametic eq's on their mixers yet because its alot more complicated for your average dj mixer,


I disagree with that. anyone will use something when presented with it. Thats like saying you shouldnt put sat nav into a car cos no-one can use it, without even testing the theory.

Don't the vcf filters on the xone62 have the same functionality as parametric eqs or am i being dumb?

[dan the acid man]

i'd appreciate some advice.
im spending around £300 on a new mixer.
well im getting it on the never never.
its for beat matching, and the mixer that i seem to be drawn towards is the Stanton 304
however i like the Denon DNX 300 aswell.
Vestax pcv 275 , ecler nuo2, pioneer djm 202, all round about the same price.
i realise its a personal choice. but m interested in your views . cheers

personally out of that lot, i'd go for either the ecler or the vestax.

when ever ive used stanton mixers, they've felt horrible

[Aratron]

what is it about eclers then ??
why they so good ?

[Barely Human]

what is it about eclers then ??
why they so good ?

Because of the quality of them.

I havent come across a better made mixer. Ive had my Hak 320 for over 3 years now, and its had no replacement parts at all, (including faders), and eveything is still as perfect as when i got it out of the box. This would be impressive even if i just mixed tracks, but i hammer the ****ing thing to death being a turntablist.

Absolutly rocking their mixers are. Highly recomended.

[Aratron]

what about the ecler nuo2 then?
its either that or the vestax 275 i think