Javascript Window Options...

[TechMouse]

OK, get a standard browser window open in IE... press F11....

Looks pretty tidy.

Open a browser window with these options in JavaScript....
"fullscreen=0,toolbar=0,scrollbars=1,location=0,sta tusbar=0,menubar=0,resizable=1,width=0,height=0"

Looks feckin' horrible.

Do the same in Firefox and it's really tidy... but I suspect me going back to my boss and saying "tell the client to install Firefox" will be met with an unhealthy mix of incredulity and derision.

Any ideas?

[TechMouse]

Open a browser window with these options in JavaScript....
"fullscreen=0,toolbar=0,scrollbars=1,location=0,sta tusbar=0,menubar=0,resizable=1,width=0,height=0"

Looks feckin' horrible.

Sorry, should have said "press F11 and it looks feckin' horrible".

[schlongfingers]

have you got a link to an example?

[Barely Human]

They ****ed this all up in ie 6. It because they had to have the Microsoft logo displayed at all times. This really ****ed up chromeless windows aswell.

I think they have got round the problem tho, and chromeless windows look cool as ****. Id check them out mate...

[TechMouse]

They **** this all up in ie 6. It because they had to have the Microsoft logo displayed at all times. This really **** up chromeless windows aswell.

I think they have got round the problem tho, and chromeless windows look cool as ****. Id check them out mate...
Chromeless windows?

I'll google... cheers!

[TechMouse]

http://www.dynamicdrive.com/dynamicindex8/chromeless.htm

Chromeless windows are not supported in Windows XP.

Though to be honest, I don't think this is what I need.

All I need is for the F11 fullscreen mode to not have buttons, toolbar, address bar etc.

Which for some reason it does when you set them to not appear in a JS window.open() function.

[Barely Human]

As far as i know, there is currently no easy way round this problem. Microsoft are twats. However, chromless windows can be used in IE6 and Xp sp1 - http://www.chromeless.org/

However, you would have to hack in a full screen command as i dont think this version has one in...

[schlongfingers]

Try the following code in your head tag

<script language="javascript">
document.onkeydown = function (){
if (122 == event.keyCode) {
document.location.reload();
}
}
</script>

Haven't had a chance to test but hopefully this will reload the page and at least display it better.

Alternatively changing document.location.reload(); to:

event.keyCode = 0;
return false;

should ignore the F11 keypress, if this works you may want to detect ie before performing in order to maintain functionality in firefox and other good browsers :D

Interested in knowing if this works

[schlongfingers]

so curiosity got the better of me

it seems firefox doesn't work with the function, but ie does, which is cool in this case

<script language="javascript">
document.onkeydown = function (){
if (122 == event.keyCode) {
event.keyCode=0;
return false();
}
}
</script>

prevents maximization in ie, however, on my pc at least, it requires acceptance of activex... which is a bit much

maybe you can modify the code to get round the activex requirement though

[TechMouse]

Hmmm... well, the boys in the suits want fullscreen, but they don't want all the crap.

But apparently if I launch it with "fullscreen=1" (in which case you can't F11 out of it) then this will confuse users, as our users will not be able to grasp Ctrl-W or Alt-F4. Utter gayness.

I'll give this a go and see if it meets reqs, but it sounds to me like you're just disabing fullscreen?

[TechMouse]

Cheers for the help, by the way ;)

[schlongfingers]

Yes that disables fullscreen altogether

ok, as a proper hacky way, you could detect the F11 keypress as above (put it within an ie detect first)

Then open a new window using window.open with standard browser buttons, and close the popup using window.close

But I think maybe the best way here is to cut ya losses.. it's a really hacky way of doing it :D

[schlongfingers]

Of course that method still has all the crap, but at least it's laid out in a standard way that doesn't look like you've just given the user a virus :D cant believe how bad popups look when fulscreened in ie, it's well dodge!

[TechMouse]

Of course that method still has all the crap, but at least it's laid out in a standard way that doesn't look like you've just given the user a virus :D cant believe how bad popups look when fulscreened in ie, it's well dodge!
Bloody Micro$haft.

Is there any way I can raise this as an issue with them?

Perhaps if I point out that because of this "feature", I will be advising our (potentially not inconsiderable) user base to switch to either Firefox or Opera for a cleaner layout...

[MangaFish]

Hmmm... well, the boys in the suits want fullscreen, but they don't want all the crap.

But apparently if I launch it with "fullscreen=1" (in which case you can't F11 out of it) then this will confuse users, as our users will not be able to grasp Ctrl-W or Alt-F4. Utter gayness.

I'll give this a go and see if it meets reqs, but it sounds to me like you're just disabing fullscreen?
cant you do that but add your own JS button to close the window?