Acid core,is this a real genre?

[xes]

or is it just really fukking hard acid techno?

I was at a club on friday,and the last dj (mike dread) played what I thought was just a bastard hard acid set,but my mate recons it was acid core.

So,the question is,who's right. And if acid core is a real genre of acid techno,who makes it and on what labels can I buy it!! (cos it was hard as nails packed in concrete. )

[TechMouse]

In my mind... I imagine Acid Techno at around 220 BPM.

It sounds quite good.

[Athar]

In my mind... I imagine Acid Techno at around 220 BPM.

It sounds quite good.

In my opinion its Acid Techno 170+ BPM.
But dont care about gerne .. its only pigeonhole styles

[dan the acid man]

not into all that myself, way too fast for me

[analog tactic]

Mike Dread is most definatly acid techno. I got a limited edition Set of his that was recorded from Tribe of Munt.

[Si the Sigh]

Sounds like the old BAWOP and CID stuff played on 45 rpm +8 :dance:

Wayyyyyy to fast for me to.

[xes]

Yeah,but at 5.30 am,that's just what you need to keep you going :lol: bangbangmuthafukkadogcatmeowscreeaatchwiggidywiggi dywaaaaaooowbangbang

[The Germ]

i dont know, o think people like skank, choose, even old freddie fresh was acid core, and speed core style of stuff, acid techno doesn't really used a lot of distorted kick drums and such other, ACID TECHNO AT 170+ lay of the speed mate...

That stuff should be played from 145 to 159 at max!!!

[The Germ]

PS i dont knwo why im posting this here but im ripping my collectiong to digital and Bang on 14 is the worst record i ever heard sorry jethrow but it's a molten pile of horse anus cheese!

[nekro]

i would say acidcore is more about hardness and not necessarily speed and you can definitely distinguish between acidcore and hard acid. for me, acidcore if anything with distorted 909 kick drum, lasse steen and zekt are examples. you rarely get to hear this style in the uk, maybe at the odd free party but most people are more familiar with the uk acid techno sound.

[xes]

i would say acidcore is more about hardness and not necessarily speed and you can definitely distinguish between acidcore and hard acid. for me, acidcore if anything with distorted 909 kick drum, lasse steen and zekt are examples. you rarely get to hear this style in the uk, maybe at the odd free party but most people are more familiar with the uk acid techno sound.

I'm all up for more acid core in the uk :cool:

[xes]

Mike Dread is most definatly acid techno. I got a limited edition Set of his that was recorded from Tribe of Munt.

any chance if this getting hosted?

[Aratron]

or is it just really fukking hard acid techno?

I was at a club on friday,and the last dj (mike dread) played what I thought was just a bastard hard acid set,but my mate recons it was acid core.

So,the question is,who's right. And if acid core is a real genre of acid techno,who makes it and on what labels can I buy it!! (cos it was hard as nails packed in concrete. )
indeed

[People_Mover]

Just how many more genres are we going to see? How about Fluffcore? Candycore? That could be an interesting one :cheese:

[speed-it-up]

Its just the more european style acid track with a bastard 909 kick, simple percussion and yer 303 wibbling over the top in my opinion. Does tend to have a higher bpm than the london stuff.

(eg Binary Basslines, Acid Junkies/Djjax) The type of stuff you can drop into a more standard acid techno/london style set to break the tedium of track after track of suf collective stuff.

You do get some faster bpm tracks, with poorly programmed 303 over the top, that seems to me like an afterthought, but it wouldn't drop into a techno set. I can't really be bothered to listen to it , let alone categorise it.

[Aratron]

PS i dont knwo why im posting this here but im ripping my collectiong to digital and Bang on 14 is the worst record i ever heard sorry jethrow but it's a molten pile of horse anus cheese!

Bang On 14 is a good tune - both sides. played out at a few parties and it always goes down well.

[Aratron]

just speed it up yourself - speed normal acid techno up.

me and the mates do it all the time. i got some vestax decks that allow to go ridculously fast.

[tocsin]

or is it just really fukking hard acid techno?

I was at a club on friday,and the last dj (mike dread) played what I thought was just a bastard hard acid set,but my mate recons it was acid core.

So,the question is,who's right. And if acid core is a real genre of acid techno,who makes it and on what labels can I buy it!! (cos it was hard as nails packed in concrete. )

Depends. Many would say "yes." As for who puts it out, I can't think of too many artists or labels that put out "acidcore" consistantly. Drop Bass Network is one label that springs to mind which put out some stuff some would consider acidcore. DJ Freak has done some tracks I'd consider acidcore. Senical is another. Laura Grabb as well. It resembles "hardcore" a bit more because the kick drums are usually run through the same amount of messy distortion as the 303s. And this isn't a new subgenre term either. It's been batted around for a long as I can remember. Here's one that I did that has been called "acidcore." Can't say I'd disagree.

http://www.acidgrave.com/tocsin-bring_the_war_home.mp3

[acidchild]

To me, Acid Core is just hardcore acid. Think early Drop Bass. We called it Acid Core around here as well. It's just another name for really hard acid.

[davethedrummer]

genre's do not exist

[pat_mcgerkin]

Neither do apostrophes in the word "genres". http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d22/pickled_gerkin/chinstroker2.gif

[MARK ANXIOUS]

it's all techno in my book.

:Yes:

[tocsin]

it's all techno in my book.

:Yes:

If I'm discussing/describing what it is I do or like with people who don't really listen to it, sure.

[xes]

genre's do not exist

stick some jungle in your 10 hour mix then :cheese:

[nekro]

if you wanna find out what acidcore is really about then get yourselves down to 303 Abuse in Brixton on 29 Dec:

www.drop-the-bomb.co.uk

[nekro]

just speed it up yourself - speed normal acid techno up.

me and the mates do it all the time. i got some vestax decks that allow to go ridculously fast.

acidcore is not sped up acid techno

check this mix:

http://www.drop-the-bomb.co.uk/Mp3/Acid_Razor_mix_Apr06.mp3

magnectic north, industrial strenght, djungle fever, fischkopf etc...

[rhythmtech]

i was under the impression that it was breakcore with squiggly bits.. ala ceephax acid crew? could be way off the mark though?

[Aratron]

acidcore is not sped up acid techno

check this mix:

http://www.drop-the-bomb.co.uk/Mp3/Acid_Razor_mix_Apr06.mp3

magnectic north, industrial strenght, djungle fever, fischkopf etc...

yes it is, just speeded up acid techno, but the film samples in the breakdown are at normal speed.

[xes]

yeah,but it's not sped up acid techno ala Benny Hill though. It's produced at that speed. There's just never any for sale.

[Aratron]

yeah,but it's not sped up acid techno ala Benny Hill though. It's produced at that speed. There's just never any for sale.

maybe get some hard-tek?
http://www.juno.co.uk/ppps/products/286390-01.htm&highlight=acid%20core

gABBA INNIT

[Aratron]

http://www.alarach.org/

jesus . . check out Death Balloon 303. dark as ****.

getting ym hands on this shit

[Aratron]

reminds me somewhat of joe young and speedcore and that shit
ghostown on xsxsx

[Aratron]

http://tekenligne.free.fr/

[xes]

maybe get some hard-tek?
http://www.juno.co.uk/ppps/products/286390-01.htm&highlight=acid%20core

gABBA INNIT

I've got a bit of hard tek,some old spiral tribe stuff on network23(represses). fair bit on my hard drive too.

got plenty of 95-2000 gabba :cool:

[nekro]

yes it is, just speeded up acid techno, but the film samples in the breakdown are at normal speed.

ok then

[tocsin]

yes it is, just speeded up acid techno, but the film samples in the breakdown are at normal speed.

Not a chance. 99% of the acid techno I have, for the most part, uses a fairly clean 909. Acidcore doesn't tend to do that. It distorts the **** out of it. Sometimes it's not even faster than acid techno. I had an "Acidcore" track come out on a speedcore slab of vinyl that was 130bpm as "Dead Sector."

[nekro]

acid techno is more monotonous and basic in it's production, some of the tracks by zekt are amazing and still sound fresh 10 years later

[acidguru]

Don´t feel that..