Where's the best place for hard techno right now?

[MARKEG]

I think the UK's getting quite good at the mo you know. PPl seem to be opening up a little more to the sound. What are everyone's else's thoughts? Where's the best towns/cities/countries for the hard sound?

[Paul Nisbet]

in scotland its pretty poo tbh,

Edinburgh is very strong for techno, but not the hard stuff, hope it changes soon. Although there are free parties where a lot of the djs play mad french/euro techno which is like at a hardcore pace.

Not a lot on in the clubs tho... ghetto techno and breaks kinda stuff is quite big in edinburgh.

[herman]

of the place's i have played i would say north spain and slovakia they really love it hard in slovakia it has to be said :wink:

[Col]

leeds!!! euphonic, orbit, cabbage(more on the acid side of things) there is another night opened recently, they kicked it off with a free party with ignition technition, mike humphries, jon nuccle etc(didnt have a name though) and ignition tech are residents there.

theres always techno nights popping up in leeds all the time, and there is other techno nights looking at diffrent areas of techno such as superconductor(i think detroit legend claude young is resident there)

i dont get out as much as i would like but if your looking for a good underground night come to leeds :wink:

[Esox Lucius]

leeds!!! euphonic, orbit, cabbage(more on the acid side of things) there is another night opened recently, they kicked it off with a free party with ignition technition, mike humphries, jon nuccle etc(didnt have a name though) and ignition tech are residents there.

theres always techno nights popping up in leeds all the time, and there is other techno nights looking at diffrent areas of techno such as superconductor(i think detroit legend claude young is resident there)

i dont get out as much as i would like but if your looking for a good underground night come to leeds :wink:

Aye Leeds is good for hard techno, just a shame they have such a sh.ite footy team. :wink:

[Col]

hull city 2 - 0 leeds utd....tell me about it mate!!! :cry:

[Col]

mark are you a leeds fan?

[Esox Lucius]

I can hardly talk we (everton) got beat by Preston last night, how grim is that? :oops:

[Col]

hey at least youve got some cash, leeds: 80 million in debt man, ill have to start following harrogate town soon!! :lol:

[davethedrummer]

london is "warming up for the weekend" again.
the ec1 has started again and chris lib played there last weekend
sounded really 'avin' it proper techno room too
none of this pansy "radio 1 " rubbish hehe

[davethedrummer]

oh sorry you were talking about football
well speaking as a crystal palace supporter..................

[eyes without a face]

Birmingham has to get a mention surely? even tho its an eyesore it does host some wikid nites, HOG and Atomic Jam being the main ones.

[DJ Corbzy]

Weymouth is turning into a right techno hole! :D

[Si the Sigh]

London. It really does seem that the techno scene is coming alive again... Which is a damn good thing! :P

[Esox Lucius]

oh yeah forgot to mention Brum.

[Techno-warlord]

Weymouth is turning into a right techno hole!

Wish there was some evidence of this ! :?

Hopefully, electronic music kicking back off in the cities will have some sort of knock-on effect elsewhere.

And, whenever I travel to London/Brum, I seem to see the same faces which must mean although this is a great scene, it is still quite small.

[ampassasinbirmingham]

birmingham can be excellent for techno. there is at least one quality techno or electro night on per week.

i cant see why so many people see birmingham as an eye sore?

[Bughead]

Dublin....

[DJ Corbzy]

Weymouth is turning into a right techno hole!

Wish there was some evidence of this ! :?

Hopefully, electronic music kicking back off in the cities will have some sort of knock-on effect elsewhere.

And, whenever I travel to London/Brum, I seem to see the same faces which must mean although this is a great scene, it is still quite small.

What I mean is paddys nights every first sat of the month, and the techno is flying out of meri's shop aswell, surely thats evidence that a lot of people are into there techno now?!

[djlukas]

I think the UK's getting quite good at the mo you know. PPl seem to be opening up a little more to the sound. What are everyone's else's thoughts? Where's the best towns/cities/countries for the hard sound?

I REALLY think that brazil has to det into this list!!!

Hard techno here goes really well in many cities... (thank god)

Lukas

[Tiddlypeep]

Glasgow's Pressure!!.

We have Beyer & Rush playing in the next few months.

Should be a good one :)

[Patrick DSP]

I have to say most of south america and especialy Brazil!!!!!

[ROD]

I have to say most of south america and especialy Brazil!!!!!

YO PATRICK IM WITH U...
BRAZIL IS THE COUNTRY OF HARD TECHNO.
OW GOD LUKAS PETS CAMILA AND MANY OTHER DJS.
U NEED TO COME BACK SOON MAN.
CHEERS
ROD

[ANDROID]

I WOULD SAY BRAZIL TOO AND IT LOOKS LIKE PARTYES ARE GROING EVERY MONTH.
:lol:

[MARKEG]

hold on.. i really have to mention czech rep and serbia !!!!!!

[ANDROID]

oh ya Mark????????? Is that good down there? :shock:
but it seens like thay been quite about it. :idea: :roll:

[fiddla]

Edinburgh's techno scene is coming alive at the mo with clubs like Sativae, Dogma & UTI and a free perty every fri/sat. Lots of quality producers emerging with their own labels as well. :D
Lookin positive fer this neck eh the woods anyway...

[owz]

north wales is doing very well at the mo
:D big up wired :D

[Tiptoe]

yeah leeds is ok but the orbit isn't what it used to be. Missed surgeon regis and paul damage cos i was at gkgg but everyone said it rocked like it used to. The best place for hard techno at the minute has to be NORTH look at their line up soon kramer kdsmith producer. Now that is a hard techno line up.

[DjRAraujo]

what a **** ?????
are you guys crazy ??
come on....BRASIL is rocking techno at the moment !!!!
im sure loads of people here in this forum can agree with me right ???
hehehe...
big respect to all
cheers
rafael araujo

[MARKEG]

yeah brazil does indeed ROCK.

[The Divide]

Leeds all the way..

I love this place.

Ohhh North was ace at the void!

[DJ Corbzy]

Hahahaha, Furnee follows the porn avatar legend that I started onwards! :D

[The Divide]

To infinity and beyond....

Or untill Mark deleted them!!

:P :P :P

[DJ Corbzy]

Hey, whats wrong with a bit of cunt licking? :P

[The Divide]

Nothing at all

Its a bit like scampi!!!

:shock:

[DJ Corbzy]

MMMM Scampi... :P

[Carl]

Cunt ... what a lovely word. lol :lol:

[Carl]

Nothing at all

Its a bit like scampi!!!

:shock:

Thats until they have a shower man :lol:

[The Divide]

hahahaha

Yeah I thought so :roll:

[Carl]

hahahaha

Yeah I thought so :roll:

:lol:

[DJ Corbzy]

Carl's now involved in this thread....

Goodbye Constructiveness.... :lol:

[Carl]

Carl's now involved in this thread....

Goodbye Constructiveness.... :lol:

Sorry Mr + positive :lol:

[DJ Corbzy]

Sorry Mr ummmm...ummm MR I CANT THINK OF A NAME!

[Dustin Zahn]

I'd have to say North America...


is absolutely NOT on the list for hard techno. :)

[herman]

yeah brazil does indeed ROCK.

i hope so mate heading down there for the first time tomorrow should be fun :wink:

[djfurness]

its sad for me really up here in sunny scouseland.....we used to be brimming with techno......we had the voodoo which was THE best techno night in the country at one stage in my opinion....The Dj Rush and bone night,the umek night,ben sims,billy nasty.....the last one where dave clarke got on the mic!!! green velvet live.....it really was a piss take of a night in an absolutely incredibly small and intimate venue....
then we had syndicate in the same venue....who started getting more diverse guests like oliver ho,glenn wilson,mike humphries,slobodan,julian liberator.....it really was a techno haven at one point up these ways....youd have voodoo one friday....then syndicate the next....then voodoo the week after that...and then a drum and bass night the week after.....i swear i lived in le bateau on friday nights for nearly 2 years....i dont know how i went anywhere else......
things have changed a lot now though...both nights are well gone...have been for over a year....voodoo closed to concentrate on the label...which has now gone strangely quiet......syndicate just dissapeared.....
in january a lad i know booked a really sweet venue....got charles seigling to come and play and got 150 people in.....a far cry from the voodoos 400 - 500.....
now all liverpool has left is bugged out....which is basically full of students who have went just because its in cream and is seen as trendy...not because they love their techno.......
im startin a night in december and hope to fire things up again but it will be a hard struggle......
best place at the mo for me techno wise is brum.....its got aj!! nuff said!!

[kebabman]

North is pretty reliable for Hard Techno (Marks a regular there). They are holding nights at Lakota in Bristol now, used to be at the Void in Stoke but thanks to Golden (unbelievably bad House and Trance club) this isn't possible at the moment.
Brum is sound, both the Hog and the Jam can put in a good performance. Inukshuk is pretty good, Techno in the main room which gets hard towards the end. Also in Brum starting on 13 Sep. at Radius Insurrection is starting back up again which is a good Techno night.
Oblivion in Leicester, if it's still going, rocks as well. Heard some good stuff about Hard Techno in Scotland as well but haven't been yet.

[Esox Lucius]

its sad for me really up here in sunny scouseland.....we used to be brimming with techno......we had the voodoo which was THE best techno night in the country at one stage in my opinion....The Dj Rush and bone night,the umek night,ben sims,billy nasty.....the last one where dave clarke got on the mic!!! green velvet live.....it really was a piss take of a night in an absolutely incredibly small and intimate venue....
then we had syndicate in the same venue....who started getting more diverse guests like oliver ho,glenn wilson,mike humphries,slobodan,julian liberator.....it really was a techno haven at one point up these ways....youd have voodoo one friday....then syndicate the next....then voodoo the week after that...and then a drum and bass night the week after.....i swear i lived in le bateau on friday nights for nearly 2 years....i dont know how i went anywhere else......
things have changed a lot now though...both nights are well gone...have been for over a year....voodoo closed to concentrate on the label...which has now gone strangely quiet......syndicate just dissapeared.....
in january a lad i know booked a really sweet venue....got charles seigling to come and play and got 150 people in.....a far cry from the voodoos 400 - 500.....
now all liverpool has left is bugged out....which is basically full of students who have went just because its in cream and is seen as trendy...not because they love their techno.......
im startin a night in december and hope to fire things up again but it will be a hard struggle......
best place at the mo for me techno wise is brum.....its got aj!! nuff said!!

Innit, a few years ago Liverpool was brimming with techno.

Syndicate was alright, but it was always empt, had a few decent nights there...slobodan, julian lib was pretty good too.

Voodoo was THE best night by far, the rush & bone night was excellent.

DJ Bone in 2000 was one of my best nights out.

Liverpool now has the mighty T-funkshun though, Surgeon & Regis on next week!!!!

as for Bugged Out, that cheese club can **** right off, I hear rumours they have Fergie booked to do a techno set later in the year!!!!!!!!!!! :?

[krakp0t]

eastern europe.

[Paul Zykotik]

in scotland its pretty poo tbh,

Edinburgh is very strong for techno, but not the hard stuff, hope it changes soon. Although there are free parties where a lot of the djs play mad french/euro techno which is like at a hardcore pace.

That's a real shame - back in 99/2000 Edinburgh's hard techno scene was brilliant. Studio 24 would have something on every week (Apex, Subtle Logic, E-ruptor (which is still going) and Pillbox which was possibly the best clubnight ever until it got all political and went tits up), and then there were the wee nights like Loop. Pure used to have some quality guests tho less hard techno orientated, and Sublime down at Wilkie used to get Billy Nasty and Adam Beyer now and again.
Then there were the free parties!
Then Dogma started (as Lost) and while their parties have been excellent with guests ranging from Surgeon to Subhead to Chris Liberator, they also seemed to attract a lot of the purists. Subsequently for me the techno scene in Edinburgh became incredibly closed-minded and political. A real shame.

[The Overfiend]

Sure as f#6k isn't America!

[Geoff]

Subsequently for me the techno scene in Edinburgh became incredibly closed-minded and political. A real shame

Do you think so? I think it's just starting to really open up now .. there are techno nights on every weekend .. Sativae is back monthly, we're doing our thing, UTI are going strong, Pure just filled the Studio's to capacity, Digital are doing well, there's another two hard nights starting at the Venue which are being run by some of the free party crews, Slam vs Bugged Out is attracting some big names, something for everyone surely?

Are we really seen as purists? That's not our intention at all .. quite the opposite in fact.

[eyes without a face]

Voodoo was my local for about 3 years, i think i missed about 2 or 3 in that period. The Rush and Bone night was ****in magical, Rush absolutely ripped La Bateau to pieces. Ive seen some seriously brilliant and downright inspiring Djs in that place, i was ****in gutted when i heard it was to close.

Furness - are you referring to Elate and Tom when u mentioned the Sieling night? in which case he didnt actually put the night on, it was Becky and Degsy who did all the hard work. I actually headlined the month after as Organisation with my friend Bren, there were about 250 people there tho for our gig, that was a class night

[Paul Zykotik]

Do you think so? I think it's just starting to really open up now .. there are techno nights on every weekend .. Sativae is back monthly, we're doing our thing, UTI are going strong, Pure just filled the Studio's to capacity, Digital are doing well, there's another two hard nights starting at the Venue which are being run by some of the free party crews, Slam vs Bugged Out is attracting some big names, something for everyone surely?

Are we really seen as purists? That's not our intention at all .. quite the opposite in fact.

Interesting - and good to hear! I haven't lived in Edinburgh now for 3 years, and I've only been back once in the last 10 months. Every time prior to that a lot of the people I knew from the Apex/Pillbox days (respect for Apex Geoff, another wicked night) said that the scene had lost it's fun, a lot of nights weren't doing that well, there was too many politics involved and a lot of people were just generally becoming very arsey about their techno. We were at a party where I overheard someone say "anyone who plays loops is shit" and another person slating the harder techno that the likes of Cluster and RAW put out. 3 or 4 years ago these would've rocked the dancefloor, and while I'll agree that non-stop loops becomes dull as hell after about half an hour, I think they have a huge role to play in the techno scene.

I don't see the Dogma promoters as purists - at the end of the day you're putting on a night that's showcasing what you want to hear, and bringing in different artists, and total respect for that. I get the feeling if you were purists you wouldn't have booked Chris Liberator a couple of years ago.

Unfortunately quite a few people seem to have seen your night as meaning "hard techno (in the conventional sense) is bad", which is obviously not what you're trying to achieve. As with a lot of purists, I think this is a case of people trying to look cooler than they really are.

The last Dogma I went to - DJ Rush (see, it's been a while) - had a very different atmosphere from what I was used to at the Studios. The dancefloor was rammed, but there just didn't seem to be the atmosphere and the friendliness that was there in the days of Pillbox. It's almost as if it had become untrendy to have a happy face and be civil. And techno is the last scene that would ever be trendy! It just compiled for me everything I'd been told by the people I knew up in Edinburgh who still went out.

But what you've said cheers me up a lot :) I'm gonna be up again in October sometime, so if you know of anything good on (what weekend are you doing Dogma that month?) let me know, and hopefully it'll completely shatter my current opinions of the Edinburgh techno scene.

[Geoff]

Hi Paul. Glad you liked Apex, didn't realise anyone still remembered it :)

The DJ Rush night was I think the night I've liked least atmosphere wise out of all the ones we've done. You're quite right, it was very busy but there was an odd atmosphere, not like Dogma at all, more just a big name playing in a club. We were expecting the crowd to change a bit due to Rush not having played for many years and attracting different people to our regulars, but not to the extent that it did. Dogma's normally much more friendly, with much smiling :)

Music wise, yup, we're just booking who we want to play rather than trying to fit genres .. earlier this year our nights included Henrik B followed by Regis live followed by Uglyfunk (Mark Hawkins live and Jerome djing) followed by The Youngsters so we're still pretty diverse. All the nights went really well and we had a lot of folk saying that they weren't expecting to enjoy whoever as they didn't like that style of music but actually had a great night, which is all good ..

In October we are on the 17th when we're hosting the launch night for Glenn Wilson's new album "Nightshift" on Punish Recs. Glenn's doing a 2 hour live set followed by a Final Scratch dj set, which should be pretty tasty, hopefully you're about that weekend ..

[djfurness]

yeah i was referring to tom eyes without a face.......
hmm didnt think he'd did everything.....to be quite honest....how can i put this...hes turned into quite a strange bloke has tom...
watch out for jasbof soon in december....with a rather nice guest linedup!

[Patrick]

Well, according to The Hype in this month's oh-so-trendy The Face magazine :

"WEY TO GO: Eclectic Electric is a club in Weymouth, promoted by Rock Apes (a local term for people from the island of Portland), that plays... well, eclectic stuff, but especially techno, electro and, er, ghettotech. Gettotech in Weymouth? Gotta be good."

So it seems Wahey-mouth! is where it's really at, folks ! 8)

[Si the Sigh]

Sorted! Right pack your bags people...Its off to 'sunny' Weymouth! 8)

[crime]

Weymouth is the new Brighton.. Far more on the pulse and a damn site less expensive...

[Paul Zykotik]

Hi Paul. Glad you liked Apex, didn't realise anyone still remembered it :)

You'd be surprised mate - we all still talk fondly of that and Pillbox :)
The fact you say that though shows how much it's all changed since I've been there! :lol:


The DJ Rush night was I think the night I've liked least atmosphere wise out of all the ones we've done. You're quite right, it was very busy but there was an odd atmosphere, not like Dogma at all, more just a big name playing in a club. We were expecting the crowd to change a bit due to Rush not having played for many years and attracting different people to our regulars, but not to the extent that it did. Dogma's normally much more friendly, with much smiling :)

See that's the crowd I remember from the early days, when you had people like Mike Humphries, Chris Liberator, or even when it was just the residents!

I think a lot of my mates who I went with to the DJ Rush night had been getting a little fed up with the Edinburgh techno scene at that point because it was going through a big change - as of course it had to, but you know a lot of people's attitude to change. That night was the final nail in the coffin if you like, although things have apparently improved.


Music wise, yup, we're just booking who we want to play rather than trying to fit genres .. earlier this year our nights included Henrik B followed by Regis live followed by Uglyfunk (Mark Hawkins live and Jerome djing) followed by The Youngsters so we're still pretty diverse.

The Youngsters! A brilliant move - I'd have loved to have seen them. Nothing I can say for the rest except total respect to you for doing it!


All the nights went really well and we had a lot of folk saying that they weren't expecting to enjoy whoever as they didn't like that style of music but actually had a great night, which is all good ..

Education is just as important as entertainment right enough... (there's a wanky purist saying for ye :wink:)


In October we are on the 17th when we're hosting the launch night for Glenn Wilson's new album "Nightshift" on Punish Recs. Glenn's doing a 2 hour live set followed by a Final Scratch dj set, which should be pretty tasty, hopefully you're about that weekend ..

Haven't decided yet mate, but I might just be there. I haven't seen Pyz in a long time and I know he's eats sleeps and shits Punish, so it'd be a good chance to get up, see the old faces and enjoy the new wave of the Edinburgh techno scene...

Nice one mate. Keep up the good work!

[Buttman]

Eastern bloc! Not only do they love hard techno but they are ****ing cute too!

[eyes without a face]

yeah toms a bit ****ed up now i think, ive had a few mad sit offs with him like. hes generally a sound lad tho

would that be a new techno night in liverpool then>?

[daviec]

In October we are on the 17th when we're hosting the launch night for Glenn Wilson's new album "Nightshift" on Punish Recs. Glenn's doing a 2 hour live set followed by a Final Scratch dj set, which should be pretty tasty, hopefully you're about that weekend ..

Aaargh. I'll be heading back from Majorca that night. I'd have travelled through to Edinburgh for that as well. :evil:

[Paul Nisbet]

That is something im not gonna miss for the world...... honestly i am so excited about seeing glenn. the guy is a legend who has me sleeping easy at night with the quality techno he releases.... well done dogma.

[Geoff]

I haven't seen Pyz in a long time Ironically Pyz is playing Dogma in two weeks, under his new moniker "Hustler".

[Paul Zykotik]

I haven't seen Pyz in a long time Ironically Pyz is playing Dogma in two weeks, under his new moniker "Hustler".

Having seen some of Pyz's porn collection, that's probably quite suitable :wink:

[jonnyspeed]

London! But the crowds really are not as friendly as 'up north' even if the size of the scene is much, much bigger and so much easier to see underground artists week in, week out.

[The Overfiend]

New Yawk Sh*tty November 8th.
We'll be king for a day.

[Tony]

as i'm in berlin i should say berlin, but they have soooooooo much other stuff too i can honestly say the rest of the world should be a bit embarresed at the scope of underground music here.

go t-funkshun liverpool, go for it scotty!! :clap:

and the rest that i know have been mentioned.
spain, birmingham, glasgow, brazil, eastern block.

laaaaaaaaaaavley!!!!

dustin:: come on man, kick some american ass!! its up to you dude :clap: :clap: :clap: go go !! :lol:

[Dustin Zahn]

dustin:: come on man, kick some american ass!! its up to you dude :clap: :clap: :clap: go go !! :lol:

A lot of us yank's are trying to do something around here. It's going to take some time and dedication, but I hope it all pays off.


As for hard techno, or techno for that matter...I think most people in America have forgotten what its all about. It never used to be that way. Now in America to most people hard techno means Hawtin and Carl Cox. There's still some true believers out there!

[The Overfiend]

Far and few in between.
Look at that chat the other day.
13 people all from all across the country.

[messyfuture]

get ur asses over to belfast...........

[ben jones]

I think the UK's getting quite good at the mo you know. PPl seem to be opening up a little more to the sound. What are everyone's else's thoughts? Where's the best towns/cities/countries for the hard sound?

whenever francois k plays at sankeys......

fukking mindblowing.... and such a passion for what he does.

[duncandisorderly]

birmingham can be excellent for techno. there is at least one quality techno or electro night on per week.

i cant see why so many people see birmingham as an eye sore?

hmmmm. maybe because it looks like a sack of sh!t without the sack ....

i live local myself, but am forced to admit, it would look better if it looked like somewhere else that erm .... looks better. Wales for instance, lovely rolling hills, plenty of goats and sheep and not a rotunda in sight.

[ampassasinbirmingham]

duncan u live in wolverhampton. thats y u think that. Its the overspill of birmingham.

[Esox Lucius]

wolverhampton/birmingham?? whats the difference, both shit holes, both got shit football teams & both got annoying accents :lol: only jokin lads. ;)

[ampassasinbirmingham]

ones got a better football team than yours:)

[duncandisorderly]

i love my accent ... its great! ay it!

[duncandisorderly]

..... and i think youll find birmingham is wolverhamptons overspill. we bin round for time chap ... one of the oldest towns in the country dont you know ...... just cos u got clubs and stuff to do at night .... lol

[Esox Lucius]

ones got a better football team than yours:)

:lol:

[duncandisorderly]

;) ah. you noticed me skillfully sidestepping that issue ... there is a perfectly good reason for that -

oh is that the time. i must be off....

[JACKSTAR]

I think Germany still has the edge on it but Belgium is a close second.....then again Brazil was great.....

[DJAmok]

Holland is comin too! And of course we can´t forget eastern Europe.

Yes sir, hardtechno is really getting popular these days :cool:

[Bughead]

yeah so Amok, you gotta produce more...
back to the studio with ya....