Hawtin to open Olympics

[Evil G]

not sure if this has been mentioned here yet:

http://www.djmag.com/newsfeat251.php

[The Divide]

Nice one, good on him

[The Overfiend]

This is great, I know people will hate on it for sure.
But of course do you realize what this does for techno as a whole!
I'm quite excited about this and thats awesome for Richie.

[djshiva]

good on ya richie!

if someone's gotta do it, i'd rather it be richie than tiesto...

[dirty_bass]

Wicked that he is doing it.
But what will it do for techno as a whole?
Well, I doubt it is gonna be techno as most think of it ie banging dancefloor stuff.
It`ll be more orchestrated I expect.
And techno isn`t a music for the masses. It`s too abstract and has little reference points for the average joe (ie the human voice singing stuff they can relate to).

Certainly better than tiesto anyway.

[Patrick DSP]

i thought he's just co-producing the music for one of the performance art/dance number for the opening ceremonies and not playing "live" as teisto did.

[g]

opening ceremonies - yeah, correct

good for him. looks like that French Millenium thing has turned into bigger gov't gigs.

[Stella Boy]

he's doing one pre-recorded track isn't he ?

[dan the acid man]

oh, he's not going to be holding the torch then :( :lol:

[Stodgy]

oh, he's not going to be holding the torch then :( :lol:

Probably best that he doesn't. All those hair products are pretty flammable!

[marginmaster]

respect to him :thumbsup:

[dirty_bass]

Well, I think hawtin is more likely to stick to his guns on this one, so it may be interesting.

[stjohn]

'hawtin following in tiestos footsteps'

codswallop

[audioinjection]

so is this the new fad now, djs opening for the olympics?

[The Overfiend]

But what will it do for techno as a whole?


Attention
Plant a seed.

[Dustin Zahn]

Honestly, it won't do a damn thing for techno but it's better than Tiesto. The Olympics is nothing but a damn hack these days anyway. Still, congrats to Rich Hawtin

[g]

no, it's not a forgone conclusion techno media blitz. but for those that pay attention to the artist name when they come across it, who don't already know it, and who are curious about it enough so they go find out more -- it could do exactly what SummerOfSam said.

[Patrick DSP]

imo, it will just add the the hype machine that is the hair product called richie hawtin. it means nothing more but more marketing and less delivery of the goods. consumers get ripped off in the end again. i miss my old richie circa '94. i demand less ipods, beta testings and sponsorships and more quality music/effort.

[Evil G]

imo, it will just add the the hype machine that is the hair product called richie hawtin. it means nothing more but more marketing and less delivery of the goods. consumers get ripped off in the end again. i miss my old richie circa '94. i demand less ipods, beta testings and sponsorships and more quality music/effort.

i tend to agree. i really hope he does something impressive, but lately i've found him to be more talk than action (which is a huge let down).

[eyeswithoutaface]

this will benefit Hawtin more than anyone else obviously, certainly financially. It's not recognition of techno at all, its just a case of an artist being too big to ignore. It'l be funny seeing Richie opening the olympics certainly. but i wouldnt suddenly expect to see techno sales start soaring

practically everyone at the olympics will not have a single clue who the guy with the dodgy hairdo is playing music for them

[The Overfiend]

Would be nice to see world class drummers (actors) trying to have a go at spastik!

[eyeswithoutaface]

id rather see a world class drumming display open the olympics!

[eyeswithoutaface]

where's Phil Collin's when we need him

[jon connor]

great news but hey i was looking at some of his pictures in raveline the other day wot the hell is up with his hair doo :shock: :shock: :shock: jesus christ scary stuff ? and also why has he and sven vath decided to start the trend off of wearing eye makeup ? all the bloody germans are now following its a bit gay :lol: nothing against gay people but are richie and sven trying to make a statement.heheheheheheheh bloody hell lads respect them an all but its gone a bit far now the look like goffs but instead of beeing dark more flowery colourfull goffs heheheheh :lol:

ah well richie doing olympics fare playe cool for techno ;) just hope people dont think to be techno you have to look like him hehehehehehehehehehehehehe :lol:

[davethedrummer]

it's brilliant news!
good for him
and maybe it'll help people appreciate more abstract music again

[dirty_bass]

id rather see a world class drumming display open the olympics!

Yeah, I saw Kodo live, and in temrs of dance music, I`ve never heard a better live performance.
Ever.
Maybe Der Eisenrost.
Taiko drummers kick ass. Those big ones at the back, you feel em as much as hear em.

[tocsin]

I'm sure it will be the overall performance and piece of the century. A rich tapestry of magic that will be remembered for a period of time shorter than the hype that built up to it.

Good for him, seriously. Must be fun as hell to be able to do something like that. As for respect/sales for techno one way or the other? Don't see it doing a damn thing. Did trance get even more popular and respected after Tiesto's DJ set? Seriously, I dunno if it did. Anyone? Bueler?

[teknorich]

He'll probably fail the drugs test and get kicked out of the Olympics....

To be honest, I doubt it'll be very techno (4/4), probably much more abstract. But then all the Plastikman albums had a couple of atmospheric, weird tracks on them just to shake things up. Like someone else said: I'm sure he'll stick to his guns and produce something in character, rather than just give them what they want to hear.

Hope he puts the mp3 up on the m-nus site tho!!

[The Overfiend]

where's Phil Collin's when we need him

He mastered the invisible touch.

Poof!

[g]

imo, it will just add the the hype machine that is the hair product called richie hawtin. it means nothing more but more marketing and less delivery of the goods.
so when the french government commissioned him to do some music for their millenium celebration, you saw that as a hype machine for Richie Hawtin Techno Product? come on.

regardless of whether you (i.e. anyone) likes what he does, one can safely say that he's gotten to where he is by doing things his way. i doubt he filled out some application for Olympics Music Wanted... they came to him. you'd turn it down?

what it has to do with techno will probably be almost nothing. if some curious folks come across his name and find the world of music behind the Techno curtain, fair play to him.

besides, at least it's not sashavanoakenweed. or phil c.

[Patrick DSP]

imo, it will just add the the hype machine that is the hair product called richie hawtin. it means nothing more but more marketing and less delivery of the goods.
so when the french government commissioned him to do some music for their millenium celebration, you saw that as a hype machine for Richie Hawtin Techno Product? come on.

regardless of whether you (i.e. anyone) likes what he does, one can safely say that he's gotten to where he is by doing things his way. i doubt he filled out some application for Olympics Music Wanted... they came to him. you'd turn it down?

what it has to do with techno will probably be almost nothing. if some curious folks come across his name and find the world of music behind the Techno curtain, fair play to him.

besides, at least it's not sashavanoakenweed. or phil c.

nah mate, you missed my point. yes, he does have tallent, and yes he's done things his way. and good on him for trying to get all that he can, and france is great for trying to be on the "edge" of music by doing this, but people won't be talking about how good the he helped write that track for the olympics, just that he did. and that's all we're going to hear about for the next while, which to me is a load of bs. he's much like the 50cent of techno. "have you heard him rap." "no, but he was shot in the face 9 times."
"have you heard him play." "no, but he beta tested ableton." etc etc etc.

[g]

ah, gotcha.

well i know he's got some things planned for '06 that'll probably take the attention off whether or not his olympics music was relevant or not.
but either way, yeah, he's not about to become less of a ~celebrity. and i see how that can rub some the wrong way.

[Stella Boy]

well i know he's got some things planned for '06 that'll probably take the attention off

is he cutting off his mop, putting the specs back on, kicking sven et al into touch and playing hard egded techno again ?

[Patrick DSP]

but either way, yeah, he's not about to become less of a ~celebrity. and i see how that can rub some the wrong way.

again you missed the point.

[g]

no, i didn't. that's why that was a new paragraph.

[oldbugger]

some of you will moan about bloody anything,

i'm sure if anyone was approached to make music for the olympics they would jump at the chance, and you know it.

its not gonna do a thing for techno, and who cares if it doesnt. its better than having tiesto and its certainly a lot better that if they had someone like DSP too (no offence but it just wouldnt work)


jealousy is a nasty thing


well done Mr Hawtin.

[Izz]

Chariots of Fire minimal style? :D

Fair play to Richie!


(Also, Hi everyone. I'm new to these parts)

[davethedrummer]

well i know he's got some things planned for '06 that'll probably take the attention off

is he cutting off his mop, putting the specs back on, kicking sven et al into touch and playing hard egded techno again ?

yes yes yes

[dubs]

Good on Richie.

It must be good for electronic music.

Richie played Melbourne on New Years for 5 hours and it was a hell of a set. Some of the old and some of the new but all good.

[BloodStar]

wish him a good luck,. it will be interesting and great performance for sure. i¨m just thinking if this is a help for techno or just the way to hell.

[Honeey]

I think if anything it would inspire him. I'm interested to see what he comes up with after the experience.

[gunjack]

damn richie fans suck! hahahahahahahahahaha

[Sunil]

is he cutting off his mop, putting the specs back on, kicking sven et al into touch and playing hard egded techno again ?

haha

Yeah, I wouldn't mind hearing something grittier from Hawtin alright. I heard him play a few months ago and his set was ending with old classics like "Circus Bells" and "Energy Flash", and that was as intense as it really got. I guess he might not be hearing much tougher stuff that he likes recently, doesn't seem like he'd be too bothered either way though.

[gunjack]

and you damned kids lay off dsp etc.! richie hawtin is to techno what vanilla ice was to rap music. some dude who has good PR and gets paid outragious amounts of money and gives the rest of us a bad name. f ucking minimal shminimal superstar asshole.

[rhythmtech]

i think its great.. i reckon if anyone could come up with something totally differant it'll be richie.. probably something vangelis-ish. given the chance i'd jump at it!

[rhythmtech]

and i'm not a richie fan btw.

[gunjack]

i would rahter see ricky villalobos play than richie to be honest, at least he is a good dood with a nice disposition. said it b4 and i will say it again "RICHIE SUX".

[gunjack]

and as for "something diferent"? hahahahahaahahahahahah richie aint made something diferent since he stole the sound of rob hood and whitewashed it.

[Sunil]

i would rahter see ricky villalobos play than richie to be honest, at least he is a good dood with a nice disposition. said it b4 and i will say it again "RICHIE SUX".

You left out Villalobos at the end of that sentence :)

[Sunil]

and as for "something diferent"? hahahahahaahahahahahah richie aint made something diferent since he stole the sound of rob hood and whitewashed it.

Ah c'mon, that's silly, of course he has.

Why the constant Rob Hood comparisons here too? People seem to take the 'minimal' tag too literally sometimes I think. What Hawtin and Hood have done have been entirely different.

[MARKEG]

I wish richie all the best! this is amazing for him! For a kid who was just making good music in the beginning, he's marketed himself so brilliantly that now, he's opening at the olympics.

For techno? Yeah EXCELLENT! If some more ppl enquire about our sound then GREAT!!!

I really can't understand the haters. 'Damn, he's got a brain annd is into commericalism so **** him'. Bah.. give him the respect he deserves.

Really, what the hell is taking this sound to millions gonna do for techno? For years i used to think it would destroy it. but now, i realise techno, no matter what, is wayyyyy too forward thinking to ever let commercialism destroy it. THIS IS THE BEAUTY OF TECHNO!!! it's an ethos of moving forward - NOT a complete sound.

How brilliant would it be if all people all over the world understoood this???????

I really am thinking we need to move forward. Techno has been an old boys club for too long.

Ahhh I'm talking out loud here. Just my thoughts anyway. :)

[gunjack]

sunil: i want some of whatever you are smoking. richie just copied rob hood and then led the sheffield boys to do the same and the guys music is more boring that ever.

[rhythmtech]

mark - do you & richie use the same hair "stylist" ?

[gunjack]

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

[SlavikSvensk]

i love old plastikman sh*t...

...i'm not crazy about the new stuff though.

but that's just me...

[Sunil]

sunil: i want some of whatever you are smoking. richie just copied rob hood and then led the sheffield boys to do the same and the guys music is more boring that ever.

If he led the likes of Gez Farley (G-Man) into making minimal techno then so be it, he did well ;)

Well, I dunno if you can really compare many of Hawtin's big tracks even, to any of Hood's. I mean what about "Spastik", that in a sense is 'hard minimal techno', but nothing like Rob Hood? That was a totally unique track.

[Conan]

richie aint made something diferent since he stole the sound of rob hood and whitewashed it.

I have never ever thought of or heard any similarities between hood or hawtin. Hood is far more direct and intense than hawtin is and you could say that about any of the earlier minimal stuff. Hawtin has done his thing from the start, I've never liked any of it but thats not the point.

I think whatever people think of hawtin should be put aside in this instance. This is a great achievement for him and would have been unheard of a couple of years ago, maybe its a sign that things are changing a little.

[MARKEG]

mark - do you & richie use the same hair "stylist" ?

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[dirty_bass]

Yeah I don`t get the hood thing either.
Hood was more straight minimal.
Hawtin brought some life into the cold electronics by adding the funk of dub to the minimal sound.

[The Overfiend]

C'mon I've seen Mark's cornrows.
That's Chrissi all the way.
I'll also as stated before agree with Mark on this one the exposure to techno alone will be tremendous.
A seed will be planted.

[SlavikSvensk]

Yeah I don`t get the hood thing either.
Hood was more straight minimal.
Hawtin brought some life into the cold electronics by adding the funk of dub to the minimal sound.

rob hood f**king rules. the man does not get enough respect, IMO...

[g]

no doubt.


but stolen, whitewashed sound? c'mon brian. nonsense.

[eyeswithoutaface]

haha hilarious, comparing Hood to Hawtin. It's pointless, both a minimal ethos sure but 2 totally different approaches to the "minimal" sound. I think people take the word minimal too literaly, very strange.

[Jay Pace]

People also insist that minimal must only have one true meaning.

One camp will argue that all new minimal is a feeble take on Hood's analogue mastery of the sound.
Others will argue Hood and co. were dull, and pokerflat rules OK.

Both have an equally valid claim to be described as minimal. People get very upset about the pigeonholing going on.
Dummies have been spat out left right and centre over at littledetroit on the subject of classification.

All a bit pointless really.

[oldbugger]

hood v's hawtin...thats got to be one of the most pathetic things i have ever heard :lol:

i dont get the richie haters either..is it jealousy or what? i really dont know. i could go on for hours, but i wont coz everyone already thinks i want to shag the fella.

deafmosiac.. you crease me up...hillarious :lol:

[eyeswithoutaface]

you do want to shag the fella, there's no denying that i think mate

[gunjack]

dude you guys really dont get it do you? without rob, there would have been no richie. i aint comparing the sound i am stating CHRONOLOGICAL facts. richie took the idea and expanded upon it, but look at his body of work and will notce the similarities in the original pieces, whatever i dont even think hawtin deserves this much explaination, but you kids who are acting like you know it all, obviously cant see the forest for the trees, hawtin had money for publicity in the early 90's and had good distribution that put him in every tower records, THAT DOES NOT MAKE HIM "legendary" or whatever, it just means that he has more fans via better exposure, but anybody who cant see that the guy is just taking the piss, really is blinded by the marketing.


there is so much good music out there that when i hear you kids going off like this it just reminds me of the sad state of affairs we are in, goddamned kids jump on bandwagon after bandwagon without even scratching the surface.

[gunjack]

in 93 richie was the head of the detroit clone pack, working with uk artists COMPLETELY ripping off the sound of detroit. anybody who doesnt know that is uneducated about the history of this music. ricky villalobos admits freely that "we have rob hood to thank for all of this" but richie wouldnt even admit that the sky is blue if it affected his "innovator"status. thats why ppl hate on richie.... the guy was making records in windsor, with detroit production style and a bit of corny sheffield bleep and etching "DETROIT TECHNO" on his records. another case of a ghetto music form being whitewashed and mass produced until it is unrecognizable and homogynous.

now the whole world gets to see the boring, sad state of techno at the olypics, courtesy of an overpaid, overhyped, arrogant prick who hapened to be in the right place at the right time. richie has about as much to do with techno at this point a john digweed has to do with astral physics, F UCK ALL.


yay cheesy click house at the olypics! its a great day for techno huh? bah, the guys work completely devoid of soul and feeling and you kids lap it up!

[oldbugger]

dude you guys really dont get it do you? without rob, there would have been no richie. i aint comparing the sound i am stating CHRONOLOGICAL facts. richie took the idea and expanded upon it, but look at his body of work and will notce the similarities in the original pieces, whatever i dont even think hawtin deserves this much explaination, but you kids who are acting like you know it all, obviously cant see the forest for the trees, hawtin had money for publicity in the early 90's and had good distribution that put him in every tower records, THAT DOES NOT MAKE HIM "legendary" or whatever, it just means that he has more fans via better exposure, but anybody who cant see that the guy is just taking the piss, really is blinded by the marketing.


there is so much good music out there that when i hear you kids going off like this it just reminds me of the sad state of affairs we are in, goddamned kids jump on bandwagon after bandwagon without even scratching the surface.

kids? you cheeky twat :shock:

[gunjack]

yea and why not put mills or hood in the olypics????? that is the question isnt it? as much as i dont like the fact that jeff continues with the 909 sounds etc. his music is a much better representation of MUSIC and FEELING, he would make a much better ambassador for our community than an overhyped diva who doesnt even make techno any more.

[gunjack]

kids? you cheeky twat :shock:[/quote]

well grow up then and i wont call you a kid, i dont care if you are 65, you still talk like a kid who hasnt done his homework. i byou even considered getting the plastikman logo tatooed somewhere on your body at one point, if you dont already have one.

[oldbugger]

get over yourself,

how have i not done my homework? why do i even need to?

you are one very bitter, twisted arse from what i can see. i used to love reading some of the shite you posted just for entertainment but now i think your a pretty sad cunt.

thats me out of this bullshit thread.

as for the tattoo. no thats.. i'll leave that to the kids ;)


sorry to anyone else here but this guy is a cock.

[gunjack]

bro, call me bitter all you like, i am just blunt, to bad you havent the self esteem to realize you are part of the walking unconsious.

[oldbugger]

fair enough...

i take back the insults.
end of chat.

[Conan]

Sure then we can just say that every body who made techno after the belville is ripping it off and "whitewashing" it. You got an oppinion on hawtin and thats great but it doesn't mean that it's the last word. You have your say and other people have theirs.

I'm not saying that Richie Hawtin is the best producer I'd like to see at the olympics but it's better than nothing, and thats my point and maybe the point of a few people.

Is Hawtin over hyped ****in right he is, am I a fan of his no, but it doesnt mean he doesnt deserve some respect for a good achievement.

And ****1in relax with your superiority there chief.

[gunjack]

bro i am not trying to discourage you, i know i am blunt and harsh buit at the end of the day i am trying to encourage folks like you to think for themselves and not just accept the whitewashed music that floats to the surface.

[gunjack]

hey conan i aint acting superior, i am speaking from experience, BIG DEFERENCE THERE "CHIEF" and i am not saying that everybody after the fantastic 4 is ripping em off, folks take things and make em their own, that is part of music, but if you cant see that from "sheet one" all the way to the new shit, this dude is whitewashing and mass producing lazy compositions under the guise of minimalism then you too are part of the zombie nation

[oldbugger]

bro i am not trying to discourage you, i know i am blunt and harsh buit at the end of the day i am trying to encourage folks like you to think for themselves and not just accept the whitewashed music that floats to the surface.

i was going to drop it untill you came out with that.

that is such an arrogant comment i can't actually believe you are serious. surely you are winding me up right, or are you really that stupid?

your trying to encourage me to think for myself? jesus christ will you listen to yourself?


perhaps if you took a leaf from richies book you may start to do some nice music again too instead of all that over compressed hard shite you knock out.

now that would be an even sadder day for techno if they had you playing ;) :cheese: but we would all wish you well because its what people do. just like we all are for richie except you..

your whitewashing yourself. your sound is hardly original.

sorry to make this about you, i was going to delete all what i just wrote above because i wrote it in angst, but sod it.. its my opinion on you, just like your opinion on hawtin.

i'm sure you can take it. :lol:

i'm not replying again.

good bye.

[gunjack]

hahah this guy telling me to do some "nice music" lol he dont kno me very well do he?

like i said, you barely scrape the surface, somebody tell this guy??????


anyway: http://www.iterativemusic.com/~gunjack/the_voice_inside.mp3
http://www.iterativemusic.com/~gunjack/see-no-evil.mp3
http://www.iterativemusic.com/~gunjack/playing_telefon.mp3
http://www.iterativemusic.com/~gunjack/stop_b4_we_start.mp3
http://www.iterativemusic.com/~gunjack/stranger_than_fiction.mp3


here is some "nice music" for you to shut your mouth. ; )

[massplanck]

Deafmosaic is opening up the Special Olympics i hear.

Think for ourselves? what the ****? And i dont even own a hawtin record.

Go copy Jamie Lidell or something,

[gunjack]

jamie is cool bro but i would rather copy curtis mayfield ; ). and i will be cheering for you in the gimp race after my set there guy. and i dont remember talking to you there plank but your dumbass banter is always refreshing.

[massplanck]

Actually i was wrong. Its Curtis Mayfield who should be given the honour of opening up the paralympics. That Deafmosaic dude whitewashed his sound and ran off with his fake arms.


Now why dont I own a hawtin record?


:scratch:

[SlavikSvensk]

kids? you cheeky twat :shock:

http://www.mobipocket.com/eBooks/coverpage/ID269/o'reillyfactorforkids,the4.jpg

[oldbugger]

hahah this guy telling me to do some "nice music" lol he dont kno me very well do he?

like i said, you barely scrape the surface, somebody tell this guy??????


anyway: http://www.iterativemusic.com/~gunjack/the_voice_inside.mp3
http://www.iterativemusic.com/~gunjack/see-no-evil.mp3
http://www.iterativemusic.com/~gunjack/playing_telefon.mp3
http://www.iterativemusic.com/~gunjack/stop_b4_we_start.mp3
http://www.iterativemusic.com/~gunjack/stranger_than_fiction.mp3


here is some "nice music" for you to shut your mouth. ; )


well i thought i would take a listen so i could not be blamed for whatever else you feel like blaming me for or calling me.

i dont want this to sound like i'm saying this just to be personal now but...

1st track ...i actually laughed (sorry) i actually though you were taking the piss (that means having a joke with me) each to their own and all that but i really dont like it. and its anything but 'nice'
and they got worse.


but that just my opinion. i'm sure other will love it :roll: ;) hahah


i know you just trying to draw me into a row. and its worked.

but im not anymore (honestly)

[dirty_bass]

I don`t give a damn who originated what.
I don`t need to do a history lesson to tell me what I like
I find hood boring.
I dig some of the funk Hawtin has made.
As for the rest, make your own mind up, who cares who started what, good music will sound good, derivative shite will sound like derivative shite, and we all stand on the shoulders of someone.


And gunny, Hip Hop Smurfs?

[oldbugger]

And gunny, Hip Hop Smurfs?


:lol: just spat my drink on my monitor you twat :lol:

hillarious

[dirty_bass]

http://www.blueimps.com/images/photos/individualsmurfs/20519hiphopvar1compa.jpg

[Stella Boy]

http://www.iterativemusic.com/~gunjack/playing_telefon.mp3
http://www.iterativemusic.com/~gunjack/stop_b4_we_start.mp3
http://www.iterativemusic.com/~gunjack/stranger_than_fiction.mp3


Cheers GJ. Wouldn't mind hearing some more like these :cool:

[dan the acid man]

right people, can we please leave the personal insults out of the threads please.

[oldbugger]

right people, can we please leave the personal insults out of the threads please.

ok bro sorry dan :oops:

i'm just a kid who knows no better. :lol:

[Conan]

hey conan i aint acting superior, i am speaking from experience, BIG DEFERENCE THERE "CHIEF" and i am not saying that everybody after the fantastic 4 is ripping em off, folks take things and make em their own, that is part of music, but if you cant see that from "sheet one" all the way to the new shit, this dude is whitewashing and mass producing lazy compositions under the guise of minimalism then you too are part of the zombie nation

I told you I dont like hawtin's music nor do I buy any of the minimal stuff out at the moment, but i dont think he copied it of hood like you said. Keep on the point.

He's achieved something good for him thats it. Thats all I'm saying.

You dont even know what I listen to or what I like so how can I be apart of the "zombie nation" you refer to. You're making some outlandish assumptions there without any info.

[tocsin]

in 93 richie was the head of the detroit clone pack, working with uk artists COMPLETELY ripping off the sound of detroit. anybody who doesnt know that is uneducated about the history of this music. ricky villalobos admits freely that "we have rob hood to thank for all of this" but richie wouldnt even admit that the sky is blue if it affected his "innovator"status. thats why ppl hate on richie.... the guy was making records in windsor, with detroit production style and a bit of corny sheffield bleep and etching "DETROIT TECHNO" on his records. another case of a ghetto music form being whitewashed and mass produced until it is unrecognizable and homogynous.

http://maps.google.com/maps?oi=map&q=Detroit,+MI

[SlavikSvensk]

yeah, you can almost spit on winsor from detroit. or vice versa. or just go there to drink underage. or go there to drink underage with a bunch of canadian friends and lean out the window of their apartment to laugh at stupid american frat boys.

[Sunil]

Hawtin doing this is a good thing, but mainly for him, not for techno. I'm glad to hear he's doing it but I don't think it's some huge opportunity for techno. Many people I see who have wholeheartedly supported (minimal) techno for the last 5 minutes are happy with what they're hearing now, a lot of 'em won't care about the rest of it, or who started it and developed it. This will apply to most of those that might hear Hawtin's Olympics piece and be interested. They'll just go to the Minus website, and make sure they catch him play sometime, or buy a Minus 12".

Hawtin is spearheading something now which is cool for that scene, and it will undoubtedly lead to some good things (Music, events, technology advancements) along the way. But a bit of focus here, Hawtin and the minimal thing are about the only part of techno which is being allowed flourish or prosper right now, while a lot of the rest of it is struggling to survive.

There's a clear division here, and while I still like what Hawtin is about to a certain degree, there's a whole other side... the grittier, off the hook stuff that most of us love, that is not being given a look in or being acknowledged by most of the media. Granted some good records need to come out to change perceptions, the minimal stuff is having too much of a good thing these days. It's hard times, but we need some fair play here, which extends to journalists covering 'good' techno right down to the guy who'll **** what the magazine says and make up his own mind. I guess this is an old arguement, although to see so many labels and producers drop out over the last year or two has been been shit. I mean Hawtin makes some good albums, but Inigo Kennedy makes killer tracks, and what chance is there of him getting out records on a regular basis anytime soon?

Anyway, my point is, not quite that this is war or anything (!) but that there's a big difference between the techno scene/market (as most of us refer to it as) and the minimal techno scene/market. Less hype with Hawtin would be no bad thing at all, with more Single of the months in magazines from Sugeon or whoever, rather than some Poker Flat two tracker :)

Less clubnights being too safe and fashionable wouldn't be a bad thing either. It comes back to what many people love about techno, and that is that it's primal. Is minimal techno or what the whole Minus crew is coming up with in any way off the edge? No, it's warm up/non peak time techno.

[The Overfiend]

Disappointing what this thread has become.
Indeed it is.
Yoda Jedi Master.
http://www.twisterradio.com/fpdb/stationImages/staff/yoda.jpg

[schlongfingers]

Go copy Jamie Lidell or something,

haha innit

[Sunil]

Disappointing what this thread has become.


Some of it's been kinda pointless alright! Either way, I'll be interested to see what Hawtin comes up with for this.

[SlavikSvensk]

Disappointing what this thread has become.
Indeed it is.
Yoda Jedi Master.
http://www.twisterradio.com/fpdb/stationImages/staff/yoda.jpg

it's a sad day for yoda. disappointed he is...

http://wuzzadem.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/factor.jpg

[g]

christ almighty brian, you sound like eddie fowlkes.

you speak from experience eh? were you IN detroit back then? i was. i started going out in detroit in 1987. from the music institute on, when on most nights i was one of a small handful of white kids there. so unless you lived there too, everything you are reciting as fact is actually hearsay. and that's not how it happened.

it wasn't "detroit techno" on those early records. it was "the new sound of detroit techno". and back then we WERE kids. rich spent all his time in detroit; it was five minutes from his house. there's 40 billion interviews out there where he's very clear where his influences came from. plus 8 was originally formed for the single purpose of creating a derrick may megamix.

maybe rich doesn't speak as freely about certain artists from back then b/c of all the ridiculous racist (yes, racist) crap he and john were given at the start. but it was only from a few. most of those guys are now all friends.

anyway.. you don't like what he does, that's clear. totally your perogative; that's cool. but a lot of what you're saying is just inflamatory. that does no one any good.

[dirty_bass]

Disappointing what this thread has become.
Indeed it is.
Yoda Jedi Master.
http://www.twisterradio.com/fpdb/stationImages/staff/yoda.jpg

it's a sad day for yoda. disappointed he is...

http://wuzzadem.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/factor.jpg

Yoda always was annoying, mumbling, green, wrinkly little scrotum.

Vader was class, until he wimped out and got all soppy over his son.

The pussy.

[rotts]

The man has been asked to open the bigest sporting avent on the planet. If you ask me it's an honour and there is no one more deserving. It's a good point about techno maybe not being as suited as, say some more main stream dance music but as someonelse pointed out richie will stick to his guns while keeping everyone happy. And who cares who done it the year before it's a good thing this year they have come to there senses and asked a real musican

[rotts]

Sorry I was reading this arrgument when it was a lot more light harted i didn't realise it had got so intense and historical :eh: . My post was relating to what i know of richie from the last 5 years or so and the arrguments posted at the start of this dicussion. Things seem to have got a lot deeper than. So i gusss ill just stay out of it. :dontevengothere:

oh ya i what im reading is both interesting and educational ;)

[dirty_bass]

Yeah, I guess major credit to the Guy.
Regardless of what and where and why.
It`s pretty cool to have one of the techno scene up there doing something with such a wide reaching audience to the world.
He pretty much sticks to his guns and does his thing regardless, it`s not like he`s gonna suddenly do trance or something. The man is commited to techno, so yeah, my grumbles and mumbles are out of line looking at it again.
Nice one richie.

Now sort your ****ing hair out, you hitler youth looking mother ****er.

[Jay Pace]

The ladies love the hair. I know a worrying number of female richie worshippers.
Admittedly in a motherly sort of way. My missus feels bizarrely protective.

Besides, its great to see females back on the dance floor.
The legions of nerdy male history lecturers, train spotters and beard strokers can **** right off.

[SlavikSvensk]

Yeah, I guess major credit to the Guy.
Regardless of what and where and why.


like i've said before, i'm not a huge fan of his current stuff, but i'll always owe richie a debt of gratitude, because "sheet one" is what got me into techno. i still think it's brilliant, as are spastik and sickness/panikattack. none of those records sound remotely like rob hood, who, for the record, is one of my all-time favorite producers...

[The Overfiend]

Besides, its great to see females back on the dance floor.
The legions of nerdy male history lecturers, train spotters and beard strokers can **** right off.

Don't forget black turtleneck I may be a virgin types.
Those guys are all on line at the next Bmb show standing next to buttman. :oops:

[SlavikSvensk]

Yoda always was annoying, mumbling, green, wrinkly little scrotum.

Vader was class, until he wimped out and got all soppy over his son.

The pussy.

dude, yoda punked every mofo dumb enough to take him on. vader kicked ass...but mainly after all the jedi were gone. paper tiger, yo...

[eyeswithoutaface]

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/6318/282lk.jpg

:techno:

[eyeswithoutaface]

is it, isnt it?

im confused

[eyeswithoutaface]

someone really help me out here is that Hawtin? if its not its officially THE most scary lookalike ive ever seen

[SlavikSvensk]

someone really help me out here is that Hawtin? if its not its officially THE most scary lookalike ive ever seen

yeah no sh*t!

ever been to winsor? i saw richie and john play there a couple times, most recently in 99...there were at least 10 richie lookalikes in a 500-person club.

[eyeswithoutaface]

haha no ive not had the pleasure

so is that him or ?

[SlavikSvensk]

sure looks like him...except the glasses look a bit pedestrian for mr. stylish.

could be when he was growing out the hair though...

[eyeswithoutaface]

yeah i think its him really, it would be just too scary if it wasnt though really wouldnt it?

sorted

[g]

it's him

[dan the acid man]

nah, thats not him.............is it ? :lol:

[SlavikSvensk]

f*ck me that photo is funny as sh*t. no wonder he won't cut his hair...

[massplanck]

It not him. Thats the milky bar kid.

http://www.pepperstock.co.uk/theliar/kennedy.jpg

[g]

i'll have to dig but i have photos from the same era that are even funnier... :cheese:
remember what i said about we were kids?
around '89 when he was djing at the shelter he was known as "dj richie rich" :lol:

[SlavikSvensk]

i'll have to dig but i have photos from the same era that are even funnier... :cheese:
remember what i said about we were kids?
around '89 when he was djing at the shelter he was known as "dj richie rich" :lol:

wait...you mean the shelter in DETROIT? well, and here i am thinking richie was some carbetbagger from the deepest, darkest depths of ontario... ;)

post away!

:toast: :toast: :toast: :toast:

[g]

hahhahha

the depths of windsor anyway, which was closer to downtown detroit than my own house

[g]

my scanner is in the garage so you no gets to see, but the cover of one of the fliers for one of the legendary hawtin birthday parties at The Lodge is a picture of 9-yr old richie on his birthday, holding a cake made to look like a record player

:dance:



holy off-topic batman. then again, by page 9 who cares.

[SlavikSvensk]

yeah it's kind of bright from all the casinos and spring-break style bars, innit. and, of course, every october 30, candlelight from across the river...

[dirty_bass]

Yoda always was annoying, mumbling, green, wrinkly little scrotum.

Vader was class, until he wimped out and got all soppy over his son.

The pussy.

dude, yoda punked every mofo dumb enough to take him on. vader kicked ass...but mainly after all the jedi were gone. paper tiger, yo...

Yeah yeah, yoda was a winner.
But he was never cool.

Bad guys rule.
Cool threads, cool ships, cool lines.

[g]

most of what you can see from the detroit side is the gigantic Seagram's sign

[dirty_bass]

When I was a kid playing with my star wars toys.
The empire won every time.
Luke got decapitated, and the ewoks became second course at the Endor Stormtrooper cook out.

[SlavikSvensk]

When I was a kid playing with my star wars toys.
The empire won every time.
Luke got decapitated, and the ewoks became second course at the Endor Stormtrooper cook out.

same here, but i've realized one thing from the prequels: anakin was the biggest whiny, p*ssy-ass teenager ever. and that sh*t didn't stop when he put on the vader suit.

what's that?

noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

;)

[dirty_bass]

When I was a kid playing with my star wars toys.
The empire won every time.
Luke got decapitated, and the ewoks became second course at the Endor Stormtrooper cook out.

same here, but i've realized one thing from the prequels: anakin was the biggest whiny, p*ssy-ass teenager ever. and that sh*t didn't stop when he put on the vader suit.

what's that?

noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

;)

The prequels never happened
The prequels never happened
The prequels never happened
The prequels never happened
La La La La La
La La La La La
The Prequels never happened
The prequels never happened.

Quick.

-puts on empire strikes back-

Phew.

[dan the acid man]

my star wars figures joined forces with the a team figures, in a battle against the evil of the lego monsters

[dirty_bass]

http://www.dedelen.com/Images/cs_images/notlistening.jpg

[SlavikSvensk]

these guys were awesome

http://www.sydling.se/images/large/loose/rebo_band.jpg

[dirty_bass]

Sly Snootles Band!!!!!
Man could that guy play the keys.

[Mindful]

When I first saw Star wars(changed my life)I had no Star wars toys so drew all the charecters on paper cut them out and made little stands for them.



How sad is that.

[Mindful]

What was this thread about again?

Oh yeah Hawtin, fair play, good show, wish it was me(alltho I couldnt deal with the work load)
Hes not as good as Star wars tho no way

[Mindful]

To add to this(Star wars that is)
the new "improoved" scene with the Sly Snootles Band sucks IMO

[SlavikSvensk]

all the "special edition" effects are totally ghey.

[Mindful]

When Han steps on Jabbas tail.

How wank is that?

[SlavikSvensk]

can i just put something out there? i HATE almost every CG alien. bring back the muppets!

[eyeswithoutaface]

When I first saw Star wars(changed my life)I had no Star wars toys so drew all the charecters on paper cut them out and made little stands for them.



How sad is that.

that's just extreme wealth problems mate

[Mindful]

haha I like to see it as being supreamly creative

[SlavikSvensk]

this has devolved into one of the greatest threads eber

[SlavikSvensk]

...ever, that should read

[dirty_bass]

Yeah man, the muppets were far better than the damn CG rubbish.
What was georgie thinking of.
The Sarlac nonsense was aweful too.

[Jay Pace]

Being digested in the belly of a Sarlac for a thousand years sounded rubbish.

[SlavikSvensk]

Yeah man, the muppets were far better than the damn CG rubbish.
What was georgie thinking of.
The Sarlac nonsense was aweful too.

i think he's been smoking some serious sheet...and not the good stuff, apparently...

...how else to explain jar-jar and that f**king kid?!

[SlavikSvensk]

george lucas should open the olympics with richie. that would be good for techno. :bonk:

[Evil G]

george lucas should open the olympics with richie. that would be good for techno. :bonk:

richie should re-release sheet one, but have the aliens shoot first so human kind don't seem like such jerks when they shoot back.

[tocsin]

Disappointing what this thread has become.
Indeed it is.
Yoda Jedi Master.
http://www.twisterradio.com/fpdb/stationImages/staff/yoda.jpg

it's a sad day for yoda. disappointed he is...

http://wuzzadem.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/factor.jpg

In case you haven't seen it, Master Yoda's Blog. (http://masterjediyoda.blogspot.com/)

[SlavikSvensk]

hahaha! hawtin eat his vegetables, does not. force him wear hitler youth haircut, it does...

[tocsin]

hahhahha

the depths of windsor anyway, which was closer to downtown detroit than my own house

Hehe. I'm not going to pretend to really care for anything Hawtin has done, or the Detroit sound at all really. However, I always find it funny when people try and bring up some dig on how he somehow fronted when it came to Detroit. There was a river that separated Portland, Oregon right in the center of the city. It would be quite comical pretending that people on the other side of the river were alien to a sound associated with another side, right? Or, hell, what if a bunch of Hungarians started getting pissed if artists did something represented as the sound of Budapest since, technically, based on what side of theDanube they live, they are either from Buda or Pest? Silliness. The only thing separating Windsor from Detroit is a small water channel and a human made imaginary line.

[SlavikSvensk]

...and a set of very bored, disinterested customs officials...

[Jay Pace]

I dunno, I get hella angry with all these south london fakers frontin the sound of north london techno. Bunch of wack ass muthafunksters don't know shit.

[massplanck]

When I first saw Star wars(changed my life)I had no Star wars toys so drew all the charecters on paper cut them out and made little stands for them.



How sad is that.

thats not sad. thats class! :clap:

[g]

that's probably the best star wars fan story i've ever heard. seriously.

[g]

...and a set of very bored, disinterested customs officials...
not anymore!

man, to consider the number of times i crossed that bridge/tunnel in a ....not very well state. party going post-9/11 must have taken on a whole new tenor.

but yeah you're right.. in the Old Days, you could just about do or say anything and still get across that border.

[SlavikSvensk]

i've had a few problems going in to canada (vehicle searches by friendly mounties), but the us side was always a comlete joke...sometimes they wouldn't even look at us...or our drivers' licenses...

...once we went to a plus8 party in toronto (fall 96) with richie and speedy j. the place was absolutely trashed by the end. we all sat down, only to discover later that the floor, and now us by extension, was completely covered in puke. so we passed the border, in, as you put it, a "not very well state," and stinking of vomit and the general, unmistakable rave smell.

by all accounts we should have been searched or detained...

[MARKEG]

you've had problems??????!!!!!!!!!!!

jesus don't get me started

:lol: :lol:

[SlavikSvensk]

you've had problems??????!!!!!!!!!!!

jesus don't get me started

:lol: :lol:

:)

you've got to tell the being-banned story...

[Mindful]

Watching the opening ceromony at this moment.

Not sure if Hawtins on at the moment but theres deffo techno being played while some dancers in strange suits are dancing.

[ds2]

banging out "substance abuse" :shock:

[Mindful]

Yeah that was it.....classic

[MangaFish]

was this any good?

[The Overfiend]

oh shit
its on already?

[MangaFish]

been and gone

[The Divide]

****, missed it

[MARKEG]

it was amazing. i buzzed my titties off when i heard substance abuse. it would have been the same commentary for you guys in the uk but here in canada they were like 'the music is by canadian dj richie hawtin, techno dj, who splits his time between making techno in his studio and djing.' really ****in cool. not only that, they interviewed him afterwards and he was bigging up detroit and the roots of the music. this is just amazing imho. especially the act to - all about futurism. loved it!

[oldbugger]

it was amazing. i buzzed my titties off when i heard substance abuse. it would have been the same commentary for you guys in the uk but here in canada they were like 'the music is by canadian dj richie hawtin, techno dj, who splits his time between making techno in his studio and djing.' really **** cool. not only that, they interviewed him afterwards and he was bigging up detroit and the roots of the music. this is just amazing imho. especially the act to - all about futurism. loved it!

did anyone over in canada record it mark? be cool if someone could upload that.

[Mindful]

Futurism thru the medium of dance and music and all that jazz

[eyeswithoutaface]

missed it, i was out watching Adult live. Who were very good indeed. Good on him for playing "Substance Abuse" though, excellent, is this online anywhere, anyone?

[SlavikSvensk]

it was amazing. i buzzed my titties off when i heard substance abuse. it would have been the same commentary for you guys in the uk but here in canada they were like 'the music is by canadian dj richie hawtin, techno dj, who splits his time between making techno in his studio and djing.' really **** cool. not only that, they interviewed him afterwards and he was bigging up detroit and the roots of the music. this is just amazing imho. especially the act to - all about futurism. loved it!

i like the fact that they chose an appropriately futurist, albeit OLD track to play...

[dirty_bass]

I was at work, fancy televising it so feckin early and not repeating it
BBC is shite

[teknorich]

If anyone finds a link for the show, then please post it!!! (I missed it too...)

Secondly, Svensk, that is the best avatar I've ever seen. Mr. Sparkle. Or as the advert says "Mistah Spawkul!!" Classic...

[Fordy]

Wank, completely forgot about this. Just to echo other requests, anyone knows of any uploads of the opening ceremony would be much appreciated.

[teknorich]

(Quite entertaining that he played "Substance Abuse" at the Olympics, no? He he he...)

[djshiva]

The only thing separating Windsor from Detroit is a small water channel and a human made imaginary line.

and...er...perhaps some socioeconomic differences...

[gavinj3]

did he leave in the lyrics of substance abuse? pretty tongue in cheek if he did? ! fair play..

[xfive]

Two different vids

http://www.youtube.com/w/Richie-Hawtin-%40-Torino-2006-%281-of-2%29?v=VhJOECgAQOg&search=2006%20torino

http://www.youtube.com/w/Richie-Hawtin-%40-Torino-2006-%282-of-2%29?v=y1PFglwIZB8&search=2006%20torino

[Si the Sigh]

Cool! :)

[RDR]

The only thing separating Windsor from Detroit is a small water channel and a human made imaginary line.

and...er...perhaps some socioeconomic differences...

Ahem... and the firearms.

[RDR]

lol

est la musica la PLASTEEKMIN dj ricky howtin!

[rhythmtech]

wow!

fair play ritchie! i wa expecting some weird atmospheric noodling.

[audioinjection]

pretty sweet!

[The Overfiend]

Yeah it was.
How many of the naysayers talking smack about this before ever had a ferrari doing donuts while they played!

[Adrenalin]

i've had a few problems going in to canada (vehicle searches by friendly mounties), but the us side was always a comlete joke...sometimes they wouldn't even look at us...or our drivers' licenses...

I live in Vermont, USA and cross into Canada at least once a month to go to Montreal, which is only about 1 hour from our border, and IMO it's not any harder to cross to/from Canada then before 9/11. Maybe it's because they see in their system that I go up there regularly, but even then I figured that they would think I was smuggling drugs or illegal aliens!! Most of the time they don't even ask for an I.D. or drivers license, but it depends on the time of day you cross, who you get for an agent, etc. They really start asking a million questions and get the drug dogs out as soon as they find out I'm a DJ or they find a crate of records in the car. That's when I plan on being there for a while. Overall though, it's worth dealing with the border because Montreal's techno scene is bar none in North America and in Vermont, techno is like a dirty word.

So...Go Richie!! Not a fan, but seeing him doing his thing for the world to see can only be a good thing.

[Honeey]

Watched the videos , thanks.....and Yaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!
So awesome :)
The fact that I have an Itallian background makes this all the sweeter for me to watch.
I knew he would do it up proper like...
And the Ferrari at the end doing doughnuts was the icing on the cake!
Viva Richie Hawtin!!! Viva Techno!!!

[TheRev]

it was amazing. i buzzed my titties off when i heard substance abuse. it would have been the same commentary for you guys in the uk but here in canada they were like 'the music is by canadian dj richie hawtin, techno dj, who splits his time between making techno in his studio and djing.' really **** cool. not only that, they interviewed him afterwards and he was bigging up detroit and the roots of the music. this is just amazing imho. especially the act to - all about futurism. loved it!

Man, the US commentary was TERRIBLE. No mention whatsoever of Richie's involvement, and Bob Costas being a complete tool and stating the ABSOLUTELY OBVIOUS. "Now they are forming a big heart"

It's like...dude, I'm not listening on the radio, I can see its a big heart, STFU already.

I really hate living in a country where the media caters to the Lowest Common Denominator, which is sadly incredibly low. :(

[MangaFish]

anyway of downlaoding youtube videos?

[Adrenalin]

I agree with TheRev's statement 110%! I'm SO glad that I live so close to Canada. Most of the U.S. is redneck hypocrites that take what the mainstream media feeds them without actually thinking about what they are hearing/seeing. Sad, so sad. I love America the country, but unfortunately the majority of the people that live here fall into the above category.

[teknorich]

Just watched the videos and am well impressed. I thought he'd go for an ambient, beatless piece, to play it a bit safer. He always did ambient work as well, so it would still be in his style, but maybe a bit more what the organisers wanted from him. Nope, banging acid techno! Yeah!!!

[Jay Pace]

haha
Bet none of the haters thought he would be playing substance abuse...
mint

[anx]

nice to hear a 303 during the opening ceremonies thats for sure :)

[dirty_bass]

crazy, I`ve eaten my hat

[The Divide]

lol

est la musica la PLASTEEKMIN dj ricky howtin!

:lol: :lol:

Quality

[1992]

(Quite entertaining that he played "Substance Abuse" at the Olympics, no? He he he...)


I didn't think much about it until someone pointed out the significance.

Athletes love to abuse their steroids! Choice song to play at the opening celebration!!!!!!

[1992]

yay cheesy click house at the olypics! its a great day for techno huh?

Yeah its great! I'm just pissed that I just found out that I don't have a copy of Substance Abuse. I thought I did but after a dig through the crates I found out that what I have is actually "F.U."


bah, the guys work completely devoid of soul and feeling and you kids lap it up!

*insert title of Hawtin record I have*

WHAT? Were you expecting to hear Andre Walter at the olympics? Anything by any decent techno artist at a massivly commercial event is a great thing. Its just as good as when Ford advertised their Ford Focus with "No UFOs".

[Si the Sigh]

anyway of downlaoding youtube videos?

Yea, I was wondering that as well.

Anyone able to help?

[Francisco Scaramanga]

God, what a thread. I've been off work today puking my guts up for some reason, but in between I've been wasting time by doing things like reading this thread all the way through.

I read the first few comments when it was started, and after that decided to stay out of it because I knew I would get wound up by the inevitable haters. But **** me, deafmosaic really went for it!

Anyway, sorry buddy, but what a tool you are, and I think Hawtin has pissed all over your chips from a great height.

Fair play to Hawtin, that was absolutely wicked, I couldent have hoped for anything better in terms of his music, although the dancing stuff was pretty lame considering the tunes. Maybe he'll get a gig at the world cup now - that would be pretty funny.

And as for those tunes uploaded by deafmosaic on page 6, that I guess were intended to be superior to Hawtins productions or something - I'm gonna be as construtive as possible here - well, they all pretty much sounded the same, the production quality sounded shocking, but maybe that was just down to low quality mp3 or something, but yeah not a single one of them really seemed to do much if you ask me. And what the hell was the plan with the vocals? Is that supposed to sound good? Smurfs summed it up perfectly, or maybe Alvin & The Chipmunks strung out on smack in their later days.

Sorry to be so negative on here, but when someone acts like such a twat, calling everyone on the board kids and zombies and being so ridiculous as to act like he's doing a favour to us all by enlightening us with his bullshit, then I am always gonna have to say something. Especially if they are bigging themselves up like they are some sort of maestro, which is clearly not the case.

Well, thats what I wanted to say. That and lets start the petition for the 2012 games now, who should we have, Ben Sims maybe, or Surgeon would be good. And sorry again for the bitching...

[oldbugger]

God, what a thread. I've been off work today puking my guts up for some reason, but in between I've been wasting time by doing things like reading this thread all the way through.

I read the first few comments when it was started, and after that decided to stay out of it because I knew I would get wound up by the inevitable haters. But **** me, deafmosaic really went for it!

Anyway, sorry buddy, but what a tool you are, and I think Hawtin has pissed all over your chips from a great height.

Fair play to Hawtin, that was absolutely wicked, I couldent have hoped for anything better in terms of his music, although the dancing stuff was pretty lame considering the tunes. Maybe he'll get a gig at the world cup now - that would be pretty funny.

And as for those tunes uploaded by deafmosaic on page 6, that I guess were intended to be superior to Hawtins productions or something - I'm gonna be as construtive as possible here - well, they all pretty much sounded the same, the production quality sounded shocking, but maybe that was just down to low quality mp3 or something, but yeah not a single one of them really seemed to do much if you ask me. And what the hell was the plan with the vocals? Is that supposed to sound good? Smurfs summed it up perfectly, or maybe Alvin & The Chipmunks strung out on smack in their later days.

Sorry to be so negative on here, but when someone acts like such a twat, calling everyone on the board kids and zombies and being so ridiculous as to act like he's doing a favour to us all by enlightening us with his bullshit, then I am always gonna have to say something. Especially if they are bigging themselves up like they are some sort of maestro, which is clearly not the case.

Well, thats what I wanted to say. That and lets start the petition for the 2012 games now, who should we have, Ben Sims maybe, or Surgeon would be good. And sorry again for the bitching...


:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

;)

[SlavikSvensk]

it was amazing. i buzzed my titties off when i heard substance abuse. it would have been the same commentary for you guys in the uk but here in canada they were like 'the music is by canadian dj richie hawtin, techno dj, who splits his time between making techno in his studio and djing.' really **** cool. not only that, they interviewed him afterwards and he was bigging up detroit and the roots of the music. this is just amazing imho. especially the act to - all about futurism. loved it!

Man, the US commentary was TERRIBLE. No mention whatsoever of Richie's involvement, and Bob Costas being a complete tool and stating the ABSOLUTELY OBVIOUS. "Now they are forming a big heart"

It's like...dude, I'm not listening on the radio, I can see its a big heart, STFU already.

I really hate living in a country where the media caters to the Lowest Common Denominator, which is sadly incredibly low. :(

watch CBC for any olympic coverage, dude...especially hockey!

[anx]

you americans are going down in hockey this year!! down i say!!!

[SlavikSvensk]

you americans are going down in hockey this year!! down i say!!!

well that goes without saying. ;) last time was a fluke...

but i root for sweden, since i'm dual...and we'll be a bit more competitive...

[anx]

its the czech's we gotta worry about

[dirty_bass]

God, what a thread. I've been off work today puking my guts up for some reason, but in between I've been wasting time by doing things like reading this thread all the way through.

I read the first few comments when it was started, and after that decided to stay out of it because I knew I would get wound up by the inevitable haters. But **** me, deafmosaic really went for it!

Anyway, sorry buddy, but what a tool you are, and I think Hawtin has pissed all over your chips from a great height.

Fair play to Hawtin, that was absolutely wicked, I couldent have hoped for anything better in terms of his music, although the dancing stuff was pretty lame considering the tunes. Maybe he'll get a gig at the world cup now - that would be pretty funny.

And as for those tunes uploaded by deafmosaic on page 6, that I guess were intended to be superior to Hawtins productions or something - I'm gonna be as construtive as possible here - well, they all pretty much sounded the same, the production quality sounded shocking, but maybe that was just down to low quality mp3 or something, but yeah not a single one of them really seemed to do much if you ask me. And what the hell was the plan with the vocals? Is that supposed to sound good? Smurfs summed it up perfectly, or maybe Alvin & The Chipmunks strung out on smack in their later days.

Sorry to be so negative on here, but when someone acts like such a twat, calling everyone on the board kids and zombies and being so ridiculous as to act like he's doing a favour to us all by enlightening us with his bullshit, then I am always gonna have to say something. Especially if they are bigging themselves up like they are some sort of maestro, which is clearly not the case.

Well, thats what I wanted to say. That and lets start the petition for the 2012 games now, who should we have, Ben Sims maybe, or Surgeon would be good. And sorry again for the bitching...

last time I stuck my neck out to say something similar I got shot down, so well done mate.

My opinion now is to take the path of least resistance.

[SlavikSvensk]

to be very general, i think there is a need for everyone to remember that all of us on BOA has something to teach and something to learn. seems like a simple enough statement, but it boggles the mind how often people forget that.

[Evil G]

well now that it's over, i guess i can't complain about what he played. not exactly earth shaking from a techno perspective, but the 303 is still a new sound to most of the world. at least it wasn't the pretensious wank i feared it might be.

[dirty_bass]

to be very general, i think there is a need for everyone to remember that all of us on BOA has something to teach and something to learn. seems like a simple enough statement, but it boggles the mind how often people forget that.

yeah totally, I`ve actually had a recent event thats turned me over to the positive ethos that mark constantly espouses.
Can`t do any hard really can it.

[dirty_bass]

any harm
any harm

****ing edit button
****ING EDIT BUTTON
AAAAAAAAAAGH
**** this whole backwards soceity!!

your all stupid moronic talentless monkeys and I am god.

Suck my balls.

[el salvador]

you have to have something hard on valentines day my friend, that is for sure. now it is time for the ladies. get a love life guys :eyes:

[The Overfiend]

any harm
any harm

**** edit button
**** EDIT BUTTON
AAAAAAAAAAGH
**** this whole backwards soceity!!

your all stupid moronic talentless monkeys and I am god.

Suck my balls.

We are God.
We don't have balls.
We have Chi.

[Patrick DSP]

****ing great to hear some 4/4 beats and a 303 screaming!! i was happy. was expecting to hear artsy fluff crap.

[gunjack]

**** richie. **** fransisco. you all cute toy n*ggas get the back of my strap. ya heard? got a new record for you haters out soon and that's my cue...

[Jay Pace]

And word to your fat promiscuous momma.

Biatch.

[Francisco Scaramanga]

**** richie. **** fransisco. you all cute toy n*ggas get the back of my strap. ya heard? got a new record for you haters out soon and that's my cue...

I think I just about understood that. I dont know entirely what "cute toy n*ggas" are, but I guess getting the back of your strap is like getting whipped with something...

Fair enough, I dont actually wish you any bodily harm, but it doesent bother me if thats how you feel. We've obviously come to an understanding, I dont like you, and vice versa.

[SlavikSvensk]

:) this sh*t is getting funny. i'll put my grad school cap on and do my best to interpret for everyone's benefit. ;)

francisco: i don't think deaf is threatening you with bodily harm, and "back of my strap" is likely metaphorical. i believe he means that his new record will show up "you haters," in the sense of a diss record in hip-hop showing up the target of said diss. "cute toy n*ggas" likely indicates that he thinks you, steve, and of course mr. hawtin, are not genuine "n*ggas" like he is.

i miss anything, anyone?

[Jay Pace]

You forgot to say "biatch" and grab your big swinging dick.

And both your hundered pound balls.

[dirty_bass]

I dispute that, I am a genuine nigga.
I got my straight out of compton T-Shirt.
My Fiddy posters, cos he`s the real thing.
And I can throw some signs.
Dog.

A widdly wop wap, I`m great and your crap.

See.

I`m the shizznets Bizznet.

[oldbugger]

**** richie. **** fransisco. you all cute toy n*ggas get the back of my strap. ya heard? got a new record for you haters out soon and that's my cue...

hillarious :lol:

you can always rely on gunsack for a laugh.


**** deafmosaic, **** gunjack yo mutha ****a get down with my biatches homies.


cock :lol:

[The Overfiend]

I'm throwing coats at people.
A toy is graf term for newborn or newjack or nobody.
He's on the defense because people try to use him as the butt of the joke.
He voices his opinions and fair play to him.
A lot of people say their mind here and who sucks and so forth.
Brian stands up for his opinions a lot more vigilantly than most.
I can understand the unreasoning mindset of being hypervigilant, but some of you really just choose to pick on him for the sake of. Honestly the ganging up shit should stop.

[dan the acid man]

i think we also misundertsand some of what he writes too, as its like a whole new language to some of us over this side of the water

[Si the Sigh]

Ayo! Can you smell what the Sigh's cookin' suckaz?

[Jay Pace]

The reason everyone "gangs up" on poor defenseless deafy is because he invariably calls everyone an idiot.

You don't do yourself any favours by abusing everyone then getty prissy when you get back what you put out.

[eyeswithoutaface]

if he chilled out a little himself, then i think people would stop trying to wind him up. If there's one thing most people cannot resist its an easy wind up

back on topic anyway, leave this crap for somewhere else

GO RICHIE, GO RICHIE, GO RICHIE, GO RICHIE

http://www.uta.edu/publications/albums/athletics/cheerleaders.sized.jpg

[dan the acid man]

that floors so shiny, you can nearly see up their skirts

[Si the Sigh]

So...anyone worked out how to download the videos yet?

[Mindful]

no but ive got some cheerleader up skirt videos

[Francisco Scaramanga]

that is a hell of a shiny floor, if only the camera angle were a little different there would be reflected camel toes for all.

But back to the subject at hand, which is Richie Hawtin and the Olympics I think...

Those links to the clips dont work anymore! Gutted, I wanted to watch again. I'm gonna have a search round for more copies, and will report back if I have any luck, but I probably wont, so if anyone else knows where to look then please let us know!