What's your daw/host and why?

[loopdon]

I use Fruity Studio mainly but am planning to get deeper into Ableton Live or Cubase perhaps. Possibly using stuff bounced down from FL or rewired..

What do YOU use and why?

:)

[herman]

Cubase Sx , because i have used it since v2 on the Atari ;)

[messyfuture]

haha
i was gonna say the same thing :techno:

[fresh_an_funky_design]

Logic 7 Pro,
because i use a mac and it runs so smoothly in os-x
i personally prefer it to cubase, the plug-ins that come with it are outstanding , also it uses AU plugins which are much more stable than VSt's and i think sound better.


the only down side with logic 7 is you do have to buy it,you cant really copy it and it comes with a hefty price tag.

[Adrian A]

Mine is Cubase sx3 coz its easy to use and good quality!!

[xfive]

Ableton Live 5

I really don't need to explain why... :techno:

[findthesolution]

Live 5.

Does everything I need it to...I still have yet to run into any major roadblocks with it, besides the problem with the Absynth patch I had 2 weeks ago, which is now sorted.

[loopdon]

yeah, live + fruity seems the way to go for me. atm :cheese:

please go on, peeps!

[xfive]

Oh and I guess I should mention I'm on a PC. I built it myself last March... AMD 3200+ 1GB etc etc
Sucker boots in like 10 seconds. :eyes:

Macs are lovely but $$$$

[TheRev]

Live 4, though probably upgrading to 5 with the new machine.

Using Live mostly because its inhouse Sampler / Effects are pretty tight and low on the CPU usage. And of course because it can be used to perform Live. I do however find the MIDI editing in it is absolute ARSE compared to every other sequencer I've used.

Any improvements to that in 5?

[xfive]

I really don't see why people complain about the midi implementation in Live.
It does everything I need it to do.

If you need to edit midi at the event level you have issues anyway :cheese:

[RDR]

Except record sysex data?


Live 5, OSX, G4 1.5 gig powerbook 768ram for live+O1X, SX3, logic express 7, digital performer, Peak 4

Pentium 2.4, 2gigram, Cubase sx 3, Live 5, soundforge, XP, O1X for studio


Live 5's midi implementation is chronic. Navigation is terrible and the tools laughable.

Im a registered user of all of the above BTW except peak.

[RDR]

remember when people had MIDI gear???? your sequencer is the heart of a hardware studio, not a VSTi one. Cubase still kicks arse when it comes to managing external gear, logic used to have better timing on the outboard, but since apple bought them out they really dont seem to give a shit, expecially on the sounddiver front.


Cubase is a good program for keeping everything in check midiwise, its just that IMHO the sound engine lacks that little VA Va VOOM...

[RDR]

Ps.. i know about the offset issue in cubase, its curable... i love all these programs in their own little way, just a tool for a job.

And BTW when it comes to recoridng audio... pro tools with the 001 or the 002 sounds blooming fabulous!

[TechMouse]

I like using lots of different bits of software (and hardware) because everything has it's strengths.

Cubase is the bit I know best though. (After OctaMED, but that's getting old now!)

[RDR]

OctaMED! get tracking!

[TechMouse]

You knowsit, klaaaaaaart.

[RDR]

Safe as ****

[Basil Rush]

OctaMed is coool ! Haven't used that since I was little, might install it in a tic

Protools is the final production tool of choice. But I've just installed FL Studio on the PC so I can do some fake scratching :)

[Basil Rush]

Pah, where do I get a tracker for a Mac? !

[mattboyslim]

running a powerbook g4 with Logic 6 Pro and Live 4

i've been with logic for ages and it was the first program to jump out at me and make my work flow quicker. feels really intuitive and is stable as

i'm relatively new to live, but again working with it is so quick and flows nicely.

[TechMouse]

Pah, where do I get a tracker for a Mac? !

Free:
http://rigelseven.com/schism/
http://www.reduz.com.ar/cheesetronic/index.php

Pay:
http://www.renoise.com/

[danielmarshall]

Except record sysex data?

If that's important to you, why not just use Midi-OX?

Personally I'm one of the FL Studio horde. I dislike being lumped with that crowd though... it's got a stigma that just won't be shaken no matter how good the program becomes (that new mixer is unreal!). Actually, that's a good idea for a new thread :) There's still many things I dislike about it, but there are some things which are cruicial to my production style and just won't work on any other platform that I am aware of.

What REALLY frustrates me is the fact that so many people in the open source community are pouring rediculous amounts of effort into creating billions of quality freeware trackers like Psycle and Buzz, but not one traditional sequencer. So many great ideas in these projects, but who could be fukked trying to program music using what looks like ASM.

[loopdon]

daniel, have a look at

http://www.kreatives.org/kristal/

if you don't know that yet. free and looks cubasy, imho

[Jay Pace]

hehehe octaMED, now that was revolutionary. 4 tracks at decent quality, or 8 at really weird shite quality.
Loved that program dearly. All those columns whizzing downwards... such fun...

I use Cubase SX2 with Reason 3 on a custom built PC for production.

I've got an ibook to run final scratch, and I'm still getting to grips with ableton for djing and live stuff.

[danielmarshall]

Thanks for the link oh loopy one... looks interesting - though a little limited. Pity it's not true opensource cause I'm looking for another project to contribute to.

[danielmarshall]

OK, played with it for 5 minutes and have exhausted the feature set. I have to say that my prior assumption was wrong. This thing isn't limited at all.. You need some at least some features for something to be limited as opposed to completely useless. I've seen better pieces of crap on serial boxes. 1/10.

Pro Tools Free is a FAR better option.

[loopdon]

OK, played with it for 5 minutes and have exhausted the feature set. I have to say that my prior assumption was wrong. This thing isn't limited at all.. You need some at least some features for something to be limited as opposed to completely useless. I've seen better pieces of crap on serial boxes. 1/10.

Pro Tools Free is a FAR better option.

Never tried it myself, tbh. Just came to my mind. And it looks pretty.
:lol:

Protools LE is worth a look, i guess.

[TechMouse]

What REALLY frustrates me is the fact that so many people in the open source community are pouring rediculous amounts of effort into creating billions of quality freeware trackers like Psycle and Buzz, but not one traditional sequencer. So many great ideas in these projects, but who could be fukked trying to program music using what looks like ASM.
http://www.rosegardenmusic.com/
http://ardour.org/

... and lots of people use Buzz.

Splitloop are a good example, if you like Breaks at all.

[TechMouse]

daniel, have a look at

http://www.kreatives.org/kristal/

if you don't know that yet. free and looks cubasy, imho
That looks pretty cool - especially if you just want to record hardware etc.

[TechMouse]

hehehe octaMED, now that was revolutionary. 4 tracks at decent quality, or 8 at really weird shite quality.
Loved that program dearly. All those columns whizzing downwards... such fun...
I ended up buying the PC Version.

Unlimited tracks at CD quality. ;)

http://www.octamed.co.uk/

[Jay Pace]

I think it using it again would probably make me cry.

Part of me died the day I sold my amiga.

[TechMouse]

http://www.eyetech.co.uk/search.php?SearchStr=&SearchCat=AMA1

:eyes:

[Jay Pace]

A1X4-SYS-CFG2 AmigaOne-XE 7451@800MHz G4 power system 1191.45 1399.95

What? What? What?

What the hell is going on?

WHAT WAS WRONG WITH THE 1200!

[danielmarshall]

Like I said though, Pro Tools Free (different to LE I think) kinda makes this point moot.

[loopdon]

daniel, have a look at

http://www.kreatives.org/kristal/

if you don't know that yet. free and looks cubasy, imho
That looks pretty cool - especially if you just want to record hardware etc.

i think i would be rather happy to have sth. like that which DOES not have to many features. just in order to arrange tracks exported from fruity studio. but that's just me, perhaps. and i mean - it's free - so ;)

[TechMouse]

Like I said though, Pro Tools Free (different to LE I think) kinda makes this point moot.
I heard Pro Tools free was poor, since Pro Tools relies heavily on the hardware for functionality?

Also, I've heard many people say the MIDI implementation in Pro Tools compares (unfavourably) with that of the average household toaster.

I've never used it so I couldn't possibly comment.

[Jay Pace]

9 out 10 badgers disagree...

[Barely Human]

hehehe octaMED, now that was revolutionary. 4 tracks at decent quality, or 8 at really weird shite quality.
Loved that program dearly. All those columns whizzing downwards... such fun...
I ended up buying the PC Version.

Unlimited tracks at CD quality. ;)

http://www.octamed.co.uk/

Try renoise. Uses fast tracker 2 commands but has full vst suport and all sorts of shit. www.renoise.com

[danielmarshall]

Yes, Pro Tools (any flavour) doesn't have the best MIDI functionality, but for audio arranging it's great. Only real downside to PT Free is that you only get 8 tracks of audio to play with. I reckon more companies should take this path instead of creating demos. If people can't save/ export they will just pirate it to test it out, and then provided they decide on using the software more often, will most often then not really feel like buying it since they won't be getting anything extra for their cash except maybe tech support and new updates.

[TechMouse]

Try renoise. Uses fast tracker 2 commands but has full vst suport and all sorts of shit. www.renoise.com
Yeah, I like ReNoise.

I think my days of pissing about with Hex are behind me though.

[danielmarshall]

Thank god for that.

Things haven't change all that much from the days of modplay/modedit.