Bidule vs MAX/MSP

[The Divide]

I got get MAX/MSP for half price because im student. That makes it £175 quid, which is a reasonable price imo

But then I know some people are using this bidule on here? Just wondering whats it like, whats the advantages over max?

MAX is probs one of the best pieces of software i have used, very tempted on buying it out of support. Only thing is it seems a bit long winded if you want to make your own vsti's. If bidule have this sorted I mite try the early bird license if good

On the other hand theres so many max things around, its always going to be interesting and forever improving like

[detfella]

there's also

http://puredata.info/

i'd say bidule was more of a sequencer along lines of http://www.audiomulch.com/

[mattboyslim]

if you are on mac, sonicbirth is pretty nice. simple language and powerful enough to create some interesting stuff. mainly for audio units, but can export as vst

[The Divide]

Sounds good, im on a pc tho man

[findthesolution]

what exactly do these programs do?

(dont mind the bonehead question)

[The Divide]

The short answer would be pretty much anything. Well for max I think, think reaktor only with C more objects. Cool thing about max is you can make your own objects in script, although you dont have to. Theres addons to get it working with video and images too, all kinds of stuff really. I have a few vsti's and effects built in max and they are my fav plugins

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/apr04/articles/autechre.htm

[The Divide]

think reaktor

only a lot more uglier to look at