The Outboard Machines What Can't Be Reproduced As Software

[Analog.1]

ROLAND TB-303 BASSLINE

No software can copy that beast 100%, theres lots of emulations but nothings sounds like the original.


Do you know any other outboard machines what software cant reproduce?

[Komplex]

TB-303 = Audio Realism Bassline

I've used both the original and the audio realism plugin and to be honest, I prefer the Audio Realism version cus its easier to work with and sounds just as good. If I run it through the sherman it sounds even better :)

But yeah, I hear ya about not being able to copy something 100%. It's not real circuits for one, and the interface isn't directly "hands on"...

...I also prefer the FM-7 over the DX-7, same reasons as why I prefer the Audio Realism bassline. I can do A LOT MORE with it due to its ease of use and being able to control with a knob box. The DX-7 panel is a kunt.

[RDR]

SSL or NEVE consoles.

Try that in software...

[Analog.1]

Can software do one of these beasts?

http://www.sherman.be/images/sherman_rack_brison_cold.jpg

[stjohn]

ive been looking at these filterbanks for yonks... i think im in love!
any audio samples of what they can do?

[herman]

If your going for a Sherman at least get the badboy version ;)

http://www.sherman.be/images/gal_qmf2.jpg

[Komplex]

ive been looking at these filterbanks for yonks... i think im in love!


For harsh distortion and noisy filtering they're the best, but don't think about it if you're after a real smooth filter. They're awesome for percussion and have heaps of modulation possibilities (I run an output on my electribe to trigger the fm modulation).

The filtering has a very different character compared to a moog or ms10 filter...

Only drawbacks are they're mono, so you need to use two if you want to work with stereo material (or you have to do some studio trickery). Or you can buy the stereo version thats coming out... that thing is a monster:

http://www.sherman.be/images/sherman_2x2_rack.jpg

[Evil G]

SSL or NEVE consoles.

Try that in software...

universal audio is going to model the eq portion of the neve 1073 channel strip. the announcement has peeps quite excited.

i love my analog, but i have a lot more respect for software than i used to. no, a generic software compressor is never going to sound like an analog one, but some of the modeled stuff is really, really close.

[Analog.1]

Anyone tried the new Roland Space Echo plug in software?

http://www.uaudio.com/NewFiles/RE-201_main.jpg

http://www.uaudio.com/products/software/UAD-1/RE-201/index.html

I wonder if that sounds like the real thing?!

[RDR]

SSL or NEVE consoles.

Try that in software...

universal audio is going to model the eq portion of the neve 1073 channel strip. the announcement has peeps quite excited.

i love my analog, but i have a lot more respect for software than i used to. no, a generic software compressor is never going to sound like an analog one, but some of the modeled stuff is really, really close.

Yeah, i know about that and cant wait for it... (to be c.r a k ed) so i can have a go and see if its worth the cash.

TBH tho i meant the whole console.... :lol:

[RDR]

Oh, and i'd like to add.

I've still yet to hear a decent valve emu.

[findthesolution]

i wish i had the cash for a hardware rig.

[acidsaturation]

None of them can...

I mean you can't fondle software...

[mattboyslim]

None of them can...

I mean you can't fondle software...haha you could try

[Analog.1]

I dont think ive come across any software that is capable of reproducing this beast 100%, especially realtime control of the kick. If you havent got one the only alternative is to use samples.

http://www.ynotmusic.co.uk/tony%2022.jpg

[Komplex]

^ http://www.introspectiv.eclipse.co.uk/

http://www.introspectiv.eclipse.co.uk/images/9090_topview1b.jpg

My friend built one of these and the 909 sound was spot on! It didn't have an onboard sequencer, so it wasn't a 100% copy. Great for the authentic sounds if you use a software sequencer.

[RDR]

None of them can...

I mean you can't fondle software...haha you could try

What do you mean TRY? I regularly make love to my equipment..

its just everybody else's ears im shafting..

:lol:

[Buttman]

http://www.esab.com/images/prod/800104_LHF.jpg

[Buttman]

http://www.esab.com/images/prod/800104_LHF.jpg

[dirty_bass]

I`m not really concerned with emulating analog any more.
I learned all I know about in music working in a 100% analog professional studio as an apprentice for years, and those were great days.
these days I`m far more concerned with making professional sounding productions with sounds that entertain and interest me.
Why emulate a 909? or a whatever, just make stuff that sounds good, this is techno after all and the whole process of even tryingto emulate a sound seems wrong to me.

The problem I see with digital stuff these days, is that a lot of people using it have never heard analog stuff, or used any, so they don`t know how to capture that analog sound, as their ears have simply never experienced it.
It`s easy to do if you know how, the software is that good.
Same with compression and EQ.

I hate when people chase kit like a holy grail, as if x piece of kit will suddenly make them sound pro or whatever.
A lot of time, and experience, and experimentation will wield more results than gadgetry.

erm

rant over

[rhythmtech]

shut up steve... i have obtained video footage of you trying to build a 909 outta matchsticks and bottletops!

[RDR]

Thats not very hardcore, i once built an entire moog modular using a toothbrush and a couple of half baked ideas.

As for the analog comments, not sure i agree 100% with everything, but the comment about being able to hear the difference is a good one, ears need training. And there really is no short cut to that im afraid.

Emulating is cool IMO, just as long as you go into the process of playing , creating with an open mind then your field of creative vision remains wide open.