Nuccle vs H, Cold Dust

[Sunil]

Going back through old records, and I'm convinced that the material these guys put together is the epitome of hard club techno. The releases on Red Seal, Black & White, Core, AMC etc. For the hard sound I don't think some of these records will ever be bettered.

I know the same could be said of some other producers but there's a certain 'bite' in some of these records that will always make me come back to them.

[The Overfiend]

Agreed.

[RDR]

I have loads of them... nice fella is john nuccle to. The H release on Acruacree was just HARSH a real pounder that just keeps getting nastier... not much funk there though hahaha

[Si the Sigh]

Got a few Red Seal's, and I have to say they are cracking releases. :)

[eyeswithoutaface]

yep agreed. The remixes ep's are my fave's still, Seal 12 and 14. The "wolfman jack" remixes are damaging and nuff said about the Forshaw remix of "Nervehammer"

[lau]

....and nuff said about the Forshaw remix of "Nervehammer"

Yeah thats definitly the one.... OMG!!! Still pisses on many of todays hard techno tracks.....

:rambo:

[eyeswithoutaface]

i remember playing a gig in manchester once and i set the speakers on fire playing that on about +8. One minute i was there pissed as a fart next i was trapped by these big stacks on fire, numerous bouncers spraying water about, and just general mayhem. My first and last gig in manchester that

[RDR]

i remember playing a gig in manchester once and i set the speakers on fire playing that on about +8. One minute i was there pissed as a fart next i was trapped by these big stacks on fire, numerous bouncers spraying water about, and just general mayhem. My first and last gig in manchester that

Bahahah!

[tots]

Couldnt agree more ,i have a few red seal releases and still play them now,ive recently met jon and he's a sound guy i have cold dust booked for march next year so im really looking forward to that.

[crime]

Coldust - Planetary forming materials on Syncopate, orange vinyl... big influence on my Djax sound.... are colddust wonky techno then???

[massplanck]

Mark you are my wonky-techno hero.

[massplanck]

:paranoid:

[module]

Coldust - Planetary forming materials on Syncopate, orange vinyl... big influence on my Djax sound.... are colddust wonky techno then???

i used to have a few colored vinyls from Cold Dust.. mental mental jack hammer techno.. even a few friends who were into harder stuff at the time thoguth the were one step too far lol

used to jus cut & bang thru them like a deranged maniac lol



actually, of my all time fave 12s is by Nuccle & H on AMC.. Cableheads i think its called.. this thuderous bass heavy linear roller that jus builds & builds.. its f**king nasty :rambo:

[seamus]

i have a few of their productions under different names, best for me has got to be 'Rio Grande'. Totally pounding, not much of a home listening experience but would leave any club climbing the walls!

[seamus]

......oh yeah, it's by Cold Dust and came out on Red Seal.

[crime]

Coldust - Planetary forming materials on Syncopate, orange vinyl... big influence on my Djax sound.... are colddust wonky techno then???

i used to have a few colored vinyls from Cold Dust.. mental mental jack hammer techno.. even a few friends who were into harder stuff at the time thoguth the were one step too far lol

used to jus cut & bang thru them like a deranged maniac lol



actually, of my all time fave 12s is by Nuccle & H on AMC.. Cableheads i think its called.. this thuderous bass heavy linear roller that jus builds & builds.. its f**king nasty :rambo:

H - Pathfinder was wicked too....

[eyeswithoutaface]

jesus almost forgot about the "World Downfall" series for a moment there!

damnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

[Sunil]

actually, of my all time fave 12s is by Nuccle & H on AMC.. Cableheads i think its called.. this thuderous bass heavy linear roller that jus builds & builds.. its f**king nasty :rambo:

You said it! I've destroyed my ears with that one, so many times :) That's possibly their rawest track... the way the kick hovers like it has a kill switch on it and then BAM, it's bloody vicious :rambo:

[Sunil]

Coldust - Planetary forming materials on Syncopate, orange vinyl... big influence on my Djax sound.... are colddust wonky techno then???

I was convinced for years that that record had been made by someone mysterious from NYC as it was the first Cold Dust 12" I had and didn't know who that was. Then I put the record away, and never really went back to it for some reason. It was only there a few years ago when I picked up a second copy and read "Cold Dust" on it that I realised "Oh, of course".

It plays backwards I think. Deadly record.

A few of their Stay Up Forever records aren't to be scoffed at either.

[el salvador]

i have the comunique cold dust doulbe12". there is a treck there called the voodoo, and it have a sound and a riff like the richie hawtin minus orange, but it was a long time before. very cool track

[Sunil]

I don't think I have that Communique dbl pack.
Re: Minus Orange - Most of that record is made up of samples from the band Yello.

[el salvador]

i havent seen many tunes from john nuccle these days. does he still make techno?

is mike humphries the only one from the duo who is still making tracks?

[The Overfiend]

Krimewave

[el salvador]

i find crimewave.com but is not techno. this cant be john nuccle. can it?

[The Overfiend]

He does hip hop beats for Wu Tang you know.

[conflict]

I don't think I have that Communique dbl pack.
Re: Minus Orange - Most of that record is made up of samples from the band Yello.

http://www.thebestlegaladvice.com/lawyer.php?vid=6Z6Jk6N1WnI

:lol:

[module]

It plays backwards I think. Deadly record.

lol.. i remember getting that.. i was jus starying out on dex at the time & was jus dumbfounded lol

[el salvador]

It plays backwards I think. Deadly record.

lol.. i remember getting that.. i was jus starying out on dex at the time & was jus dumbfounded lol

i got this one too. on orange vinyl :cheese:

the sounds they are very "wonky"

[crime]

It plays backwards I think. Deadly record.

lol.. i remember getting that.. i was jus starying out on dex at the time & was jus dumbfounded lol

i got this one too. on orange vinyl :cheese:

the sounds they are very "wonky"

no, not wonky, it doesn't just sound like a formulae. that doesn't make it wonky, the fact that it doesn't sound like a formulae, it wasn't wonky then or now... it was just good, raw analog shit, an actual RIFF, not 5 loops overcompressed with a big kick & ride cymbals put over the top... anyone who uses the term wonky from now on will be treated to a slow painfull death in a vat of acid... Shall we start saying Space DJz or The Advent sounds are a bit "Schranz"? No, I don't think so....

[crime]

NSC backward cuts were great to put on as your last record, really play with the next djs head...

[crime]

is that the deal then, anything that doesn't fit into the "techno stereotype" is wonky now? shove your genres up your ar se and just listen, fu ck pidgeonholes...

[crime]

shit, maybe I should change my name to "Thread killer", I have got my tounge seriously in my cheek right now....

[BastardoElectrico]

Going back through old records, and I'm convinced that the material these guys put together is the epitome of hard club techno. The releases on Red Seal, Black & White, Core, AMC etc. For the hard sound I don't think some of these records will ever be bettered.

I know the same could be said of some other producers but there's a certain 'bite' in some of these records that will always make me come back to them.

also agreed, only lately have been going back through the collection and pulling out all those old Colddust and Nuccle records and they sound as damaging as ever.

[BastardoElectrico]

Yeah whats Nuccle up to these days? Has he released anything lately

[el salvador]

i must be time for these guys to make new record now :pray:

[Microdot]

Yeah whats Nuccle up to these days? Has he released anything lately

I've been working on some Hip Hop projects the past couple of years, the first couple of which drop early 2007, so not done much Techno in that time, apart from Player 020 and Player 025, with Player 027 and Player 028 imminent.
Got an Infamous Player release on Primate ready to drop too, and a new label, Infamous Records, with it's first release hitting the streets late September.
There's a Joey Beltram remix of the aforementioned Rio Grande by Cold Dust in the pipeline too.

[Microdot]

oh yeah, and updating the ****ing Infamous Player site too...........
that shit is way out of date

[el salvador]

Yeah whats Nuccle up to these days? Has he released anything lately

I've been working on some Hip Hop projects the past couple of years, the first couple of which drop early 2007, so not done much Techno in that time, apart from Player 020 and Player 025, with Player 027 and Player 028 imminent.
Got an Infamous Player release on Primate ready to drop too, and a new label, Infamous Records, with it's first release hitting the streets late September.
There's a Joey Beltram remix of the aforementioned Rio Grande by Cold Dust in the pipeline too.

come on mr nuccle. when you guys make a new cold dust record?

[Microdot]

Yeah whats Nuccle up to these days? Has he released anything lately

I've been working on some Hip Hop projects the past couple of years, the first couple of which drop early 2007, so not done much Techno in that time, apart from Player 020 and Player 025, with Player 027 and Player 028 imminent.
Got an Infamous Player release on Primate ready to drop too, and a new label, Infamous Records, with it's first release hitting the streets late September.
There's a Joey Beltram remix of the aforementioned Rio Grande by Cold Dust in the pipeline too.

come on mr nuccle. when you guys make a new cold dust record?

who knows, theres nothing new planned for the immediate future though.

[Microdot]

thought I'd update youse all with the latest Cold Dust news.......
Cold Dust will be performing an exclusive reunion show at Joy in Leeds on March 3rd 2007.
I'll keep you posted as I find out more.....

[RDR]

Excellent! Looking foward to that...

[prozac]

yep agreed. The remixes ep's are my fave's still, Seal 12 and 14. The "wolfman jack" remixes are damaging and nuff said about the Forshaw remix of "Nervehammer"


yup
forshaw mix is nuts

[seamus]

I've been working on some Hip Hop projects the past couple of years, the first couple of which drop early 2007, so not done much Techno in that time, apart from Player 020 and Player 025, with Player 027 and Player 028 imminent.
Got an Infamous Player release on Primate ready to drop too, and a new label, Infamous Records, with it's first release hitting the streets late September.
There's a Joey Beltram remix of the aforementioned Rio Grande by Cold Dust in the pipeline too.

beltram mix of rio grande!!!! i'll 'ave me a bit of that. hopefully soon?

[DJPAUZE]

I'd have to agree with this statement as well, loved the AMC shit was off the hook.

Pauze

[Microdot]

COLD DUST are playing their first live set in over 5 years at JOY at THE MINT CLUB, LEEDS on BANK HOLIDAY SUNDAY 8TH APRIL 2007.

COLD DUST will be playing all your favourite RED SEAL classics plus much brand new material.....

see youse all there

[drift9]

COLD DUST are playing their first live set in over 5 years at JOY at THE MINT CLUB, LEEDS on BANK HOLIDAY SUNDAY 8TH APRIL 2007.

COLD DUST will be playing all your favourite RED SEAL classics plus much brand new material.....

see youse all there

Man oh man, wish I could check this out. If only Leeds was a bit closer to NYC. Bet this will be incredible.

[conflict]

world downfall

badass

[Microdot]

Man oh man, wish I could check this out. If only Leeds was a bit closer to NYC. Bet this will be incredible.

dead right, was an excellent night with the dancefloor buzzing from start to finish....

[drift9]

dead right, was an excellent night with the dancefloor buzzing from start to finish....

yeah--got the set downloaded. terrific stuff. love the classics you got in there. you guys got anything planned in the near future?

[The Overfiend]

We need to bring dudes like this to the states.
I remember when David Sumner was bringing the kings to Limelight for a minute there.

[drift9]

We need to bring dudes like this to the states.
I remember when David Sumner was bringing the kings to Limelight for a minute there.

Yeah--those Substance parties of his at Limelight were the real deal. How i do miss those days.

[Mucky Beats]

these guys rock! nuccle and humphries make wicked techno !

[Resistor Records]

inigo kennedy vs era on red seal had one of my most favourite tracks of all time on there. shat over most other techno offerings

[The Overfiend]

Yeah--those Substance parties of his at Limelight were the real deal. How i do miss those days.

Exactly, my crew used to run the Main Ingredient hip hop parties in the chapel during those same Saturday night events.
Nothing like sitting VIP with the likes of Lennox Lewis and whoever was the main rapper of the time then to go and hang out behind the stage in the main room when Ruskin is destroying three turntables.

[subdivisionmedia]

alright... jon and mike are definitely up for playing live again:

COLD DUST joined SUBDIVISION BOOKINGS this month!!!

worldwide bookings are now taken :)

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peace, SUBDIVISION
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www.myspace.com/subdivisionbookings - bookings

www.myspace.com/subdivisonmedia - labels

www.subdivisionmedia.com - hp (new design with updated features like mp3 downloads etc will be launched beginning of september!)

[Microdot]

alright... jon and mike are definitely up for playing live again:

COLD DUST joined SUBDIVISION BOOKINGS this month!!!

worldwide bookings are now taken :)

------------------------------------------

peace, SUBDIVISION
------------------------------------------
www.myspace.com/subdivisionbookings - bookings

www.myspace.com/subdivisonmedia - labels

www.subdivisionmedia.com - hp (new design with updated features like mp3 downloads etc will be launched beginning of september!)

word

[Microdot]

Cold Dust - Snakepit, re-released for digital download...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v520/krimewave/Seal010a_label.jpg (http://www.trackitdown.net/genre/techno/track/447574.html)

[BranLanen]

Only digital?

[Microdot]

Only digital?

for now......

[John Vella]

Mmmmmmmmmmmm RED SEAL!!! :)

Now we're talking!!!!!!!!!!

[seamus]

for now......

is there going to be any more of the back catalogue released digitally?

[Microdot]

is there going to be any more of the back catalogue released digitally?

yeah, I'm in the process of uploading the back cat to Juno now.

We did have it all uploaded to Trackitdown and ready to go but the ****wits there lost all the uploads (and the Core back cat too) so, needless to say, the Red Seal shit won't be available on Trackitdown.

I'll post in here when it's all ready to go live.

[Microdot]

is there going to be any more of the back catalogue released digitally?

there's now about 5 or 6 Red Seal releases available for Download from Juno, here:-

Red Seal Back Cat (http://www.juno.co.uk/labels/Red+Seal/download/?merchandise=yes&music=yes)

I'm gonna upload some more shit in the next week or so, I'll keep ya posted...