Guns Pulled On Techno Performer At A Party

[The Overfiend]

This is why techno is shot in the states.

No more than two hours ago I was doing a live set at a homies art show.
Graffiti art none the less
It was a party and I was asked to play techno straight forward no bull techno
Before me was an oldies dj who played old school classics.
Then myself, so while I am in the middle of my set, some black kid comes up
and says put some gangster shit on, meaning hip hop.
Mind you I laughed it off, the kid was small and looked like an easy knockout.
5 minutes later while I was surrounded by friends and rockin'
The same kid comes back and repeats the same rhetortic
This time lifting his shirt to show he was holding a piece.
No more than two seconds afterwards my friend who just so happened to not be fond of that kind of individual pulls out his gun, of course the music stops
and when you think this would end a party about two other kids within my social circle draw their weapons.

Is this what techno has been leveled to in the states?
Needless to say I was well protected and did not bitch out
I was talking smack the whole time, but I think it is pathetic to think that you
could approach a dj or performer in such a manner to threaten them to play music that you want to hear.

I hate this place.
Birthplace of techno?
I can't tell.

[tonyc2002]

that sounds nuts and without being disrepectful i think this has more to do with american culture than anything else.

[The Overfiend]

****in' Monkeys can't go without 50 Cent for a half hour?
I am so ashamed to call this place my home.

[p_brane]

thats ****in terrible to hear, the kids have got no respect man, why the **** are they there if they dont dig the music, man thats ****ed

[xes]

that sounds nuts and without being disrepectful i think this has more to do with american culture than anything else.

totally agree,I mean,I've seen guns at techno parties in the uk,it's very rare,and they're never pulled out as some kind of mexican stand off situation cos someone didn't like the music. Definatly a case of too many guns in the states.
A question Overfiend,did you have a gun on you too?

[tonyc2002]

totally agree,I mean,I've seen guns at techno parties in the uk,it's very rare,and they're never pulled out as some kind of mexican stand off situation cos someone didn't like the music. Definatly a case of too many guns in the states.
A question Overfiend,did you have a gun on you too?

i can see his point tho....if you know people are gonna be tooled up your gonna want to level the playing field arent ya!

vicious circle mate :whoops:

[xes]

which is why it's an unfixable problem,unfortunatly.


I used to carry a knife in my younger days,cos I knew that alot of other people were too,and I didn't wanna be f*cked if someone pulled one out on me. I grew out of it :;

[The Overfiend]

I didn't think I was going to need my piece at an event like that.
Luckily for me the kids I was with were armed.
The one kid had a Baretta that drew first, he just so happens to be a lil bit racist against that kind so it was more incentive for him to go there, but like I said the next thing a Mac comes out, then a shottie, then another couple of straps. I wasn't thinking of bringing a piece with me to be honest, I had brass knuckles in my pocket, but that would notstop a bullet would it.
It's pathetic behavior, all I could think of was that if he would have got shot, I would have been witness to something even more escalated and I would never be ableto take the bar to become a lawyer.

[RDR]

I didn't think I was going to need my piece at an event like that.
Luckily for me the kids I was with were armed.
The one kid had a Baretta that drew first, he just so happens to be a lil bit racist against that kind so it was more incentive for him to go there, but like I said the next thing a Mac comes out, then a shottie, then another couple of straps. I wasn't thinking of bringing a piece with me to be honest, I had brass knuckles in my pocket, but that would notstop a bullet would it.
It's pathetic behavior, all I could think of was that if he would have got shot, I would have been witness to something even more escalated and I would never be ableto take the bar to become a lawyer.


What are the rules about joining the bar that relate to this?

Shame that happened, but thats gun culture for you. It means people rely on physical means instead of using their minds to change a situation.

What happened afterwards? I take it that the party ended.

[xes]

I didn't think I was going to need my piece at an event like that.
Luckily for me the kids I was with were armed.
The one kid had a Baretta that drew first, he just so happens to be a lil bit racist against that kind so it was more incentive for him to go there, but like I said the next thing a Mac comes out, then a shottie, then another couple of straps. I wasn't thinking of bringing a piece with me to be honest, I had brass knuckles in my pocket, but that would notstop a bullet would it.
It's pathetic behavior, all I could think of was that if he would have got shot, I would have been witness to something even more escalated and I would never be ableto take the bar to become a lawyer.

Fair play,I just think it's crazy that there are so many guns in your country. I suppose it's cos I'm not used to it. But if you let idiots have guns,then you're gonna get idiots pulling guns at parties.
And you probably could stop a bullet with a knuckleduster,was it Mr Miagi who could stop them with his chopsticks? :cheese:

Good luck on the lawyer thing dude. I must say,a techno playing,knuckle duster carying lawyer,has bought a smile to my face for this sunday morning. :cool:

[tonyc2002]

I didn't think I was going to need my piece at an event like that.
Luckily for me the kids I was with were armed.
The one kid had a Baretta that drew first, he just so happens to be a lil bit racist against that kind so it was more incentive for him to go there, but like I said the next thing a Mac comes out, then a shottie, then another couple of straps. I wasn't thinking of bringing a piece with me to be honest, I had brass knuckles in my pocket, but that would notstop a bullet would it.
It's pathetic behavior, all I could think of was that if he would have got shot, I would have been witness to something even more escalated and I would never be ableto take the bar to become a lawyer.

just out of curiosity, whats the laws regarding concealed weapons? are these guns legally owned or are they obtained unlawfully?

[eyeswithoutaface]

yeah its a culture thing for sure, America's love of the gun is shocking. Im so glad the firearms law's are so different over here

[The Overfiend]

Here in the state of Arizona you only need a permit to carry concealed, otherwise if you purchase a weapon and have it showing you are good to go.
No the party didn't end, the kid was ejected and it was business as usual.
I was so pissed about the whole thing I went home to my family, just to hug my wife and appreciate I was able to come home to her. I am good with my fists, a real man couldwalk away from a fight, but a real man knows how to fight with his mind first, then his fists, but **** me if you have to brandish a weapon to hear some 50 Cent, what the ****.

[eyeswithoutaface]

yeah that certainly is mental, it's a pretty ****ed up person who requests 50 cent in the first place, never mind with a gun. What an ego that guy must of had

[xes]

yeah that certainly is mental, it's a pretty ****ed up person who requests 50 cent in the first place, never mind with a gun. What an ego that guy must of had

innit,I was thinking that,I mean,yeah,send in a request if you're in a commercial club or something,but you just don't bowl up to the decks with a gun and demand some "gangsta shit" Unless you are slightly retarded.


When he lifted up his shirt,to show you his gun,you should have dropped your kecks and showed him your cock. Then just kind of shrugged at him. Bit of sexual intimidation,it's the only way they learn.


End of the day Overfiend,we're all glad you're ok,you can look back and laugh,and be thankful that it didn't get ugly. And let's hope you've learnt your lesson,and will now go packing (I mean have at least 1 hippity hop tune in your box) :briggin:

[DannyBlack]

but **** me if you have to brandish a weapon to hear some 50 Cent, what the ****.



id brandish a weapon NOT to hear some 50 cent.


"see me in the club
belly button fluff
girl i got what ya need,
prolly get ya up tha duff"


50 cent =wanker.

[SlavikSvensk]

people talk about how this is "american culture" but anyone who's spent time in the US knows that guns are far larger problems in some places than others. just like the UK. london, even, had more gun homicides last year than new york.

50 cent IS a wanker and america DOES have a gun problem, but my point is that what tony's describing is a pretty rare occurence at a techno party. when i lived in the detroit area--perhaps america's most dangerous city--there was a shooting at 1 techno party, 1 party out of the 1,000+ held over that period. that's still 1 too many, but it's obviously a freak occurence when you look at the big picture.

[tonyc2002]

i bet theres alot more violence in hip hop clubs or events!


PS
**** 50 cent in the club, ime 50pence in the pub :cool:

[SlavikSvensk]

i bet theres alot more violence in hip hop clubs or events!


PS
**** 50 cent in the club, ime 50pence in the pub :cool:

oh definately, fiddy-penz. :) and there's sh*t that goes down at techno parties too, it's just that what tony's describing is really ****ing rare from my experience.

[The Overfiend]

Exactly man, extremely rare.
I've seen all types of shitgo down at raves or clubs or the likes.
But to have a strap pulled to hear some "gangsta" shit.
I only wish he didn't brandish on me so I could have cleared his clock.
But then that would make me just as much a brute as he and get me a bad reputation, hey don't book Wetworks he gets into at least one brawl a show.

[davedogg]

First of all, there should be security staff padding down people in the entrance of the club to prevent this kind of shit. This is a thing I noticed in Spain as well, you can walk into any club, festival with whatever you got, knifes, guns, and security don't do shit... imagine some terrorist walks into a big festival like Monegros, 40,000 people and decides to blow himself up?

They should have enforced these rules, especially after what happened in Madrid in 2004.

[Aratron]

This is why techno is shot in the states.

No more than two hours ago I was doing a live set at a homies art show.
Graffiti art none the less
It was a party and I was asked to play techno straight forward no bull techno
Before me was an oldies dj who played old school classics.
Then myself, so while I am in the middle of my set, some black kid comes up
and says put some gangster shit on, meaning hip hop.
Mind you I laughed it off, the kid was small and looked like an easy knockout.
5 minutes later while I was surrounded by friends and rockin'
The same kid comes back and repeats the same rhetortic
This time lifting his shirt to show he was holding a piece.
No more than two seconds afterwards my friend who just so happened to not be fond of that kind of individual pulls out his gun, of course the music stops
and when you think this would end a party about two other kids within my social circle draw their weapons.

Is this what techno has been leveled to in the states?
Needless to say I was well protected and did not bitch out
I was talking smack the whole time, but I think it is pathetic to think that you
could approach a dj or performer in such a manner to threaten them to play music that you want to hear.

I hate this place.
Birthplace of techno?
I can't tell.


brillaint more dead ****head americans, brilliant.

[BRADLEE]

Nah, I think the title isn't exactly accurate. Yes indeed you were playing techno, but you were not playing at a techno party. You were playing an event where you were the only techno performer. Not to meantion, you were playing for a bunch of gun toting, gangsta ass fools. You could have gotten a gun pulled on you there wether you were playing techno or not.

The fact of the matter is, this is not something which occurs at a normal Jam in Phoenix Arizona. And largely I don't think shit like this happens very often in the U.S. in other places either. Not within the techno or party scene.

For example my show last night, no issues.....Nice intimate location, drinks flowing, and no issues what so ever. Generally, the only people who have worry about guns shit are the dope dealers. As far as performers go, this usually doesn't happen.

Homie, I'm sorry that it went down like that...but it's the crowd you were with brother man. It really had nothing to do with the music. It was that you were playing it in a crowd of people with a mentality for violent behavior.

So let the moral of the story be....Most Gangsta's don't get down with Techno musik.

Don't worry either homie, just got hooked into the most posh spot in Arizona. Once things are cruising a bit, then I guarantee the "ZEITGEIST" movement will control the main dance floor. So don't be discouraged.

[MARK ANXIOUS]

wow, this is nuts. but i've had my fair share of this crap in america. basically, the gun laws over there suck. security works totally differently.. the us ppl need to sort this. but also, i think techno is so bloody underground over there that you can easily find yourself playing at a party where ppl just dont like that sound. i've had so much hostility over there due to this but i thin ya gotta walk away if it happens. no sense in challenging. take ya message elsewhere :)

[BRADLEE]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/messanger/ZEITGEIST-US.jpg

[djshiva]

i don't get that. i mean, what ****stick listens to a dj playing techno and even THINKS the dj has 50 cent type shit in his record box?

and to show a gun to have something played that he prolly has on cd at home. i mean, how ****ing lame. i really wanna get into a shooting match over ****ing MUSIC. really. guh.

i cannot even articulate how stupid this is.

sorry ya had to deal with that kinda lame shit.

[BRADLEE]

wow, this is nuts. but i've had my fair share of this crap in america. basically, the gun laws over there suck.

Have you actually had a gun pulled on you for the musik you were playing though Mark? There is shady business of all types everywhere.

Although I do agree, guns are way to readily available to everyone here. But doesn't matter, even if guns are illegal for the normal public, criminals will still have them.

The fact of the matter is the people which he was surrounded by...it would not have occured otherwise.

[The Overfiend]

brillaint more dead ****head americans, brilliant.

How do you live with yourself?
Really?
After you're little white power skit in metropolis
Then your avatar which is extremely offensive to me that you would think to mock such an organization.
Now this....
You have to live in your own skin.
I am not being confrontational at all, I am just saying reconsider your actions around Blackout.

[Aratron]

How do you live with yourself?
Really?
After you're little white power skit in metropolis
Then your avatar which is extremely offensive to me that you would think to mock such an organization.
Now this....
You have to live in your own skin.
I am not being confrontational at all, I am just saying reconsider your actions around Blackout.

your a member of organisation which is repsonsible for more fear and hate than myself. reconsider your own actions.
do something about gun crime in your own country.

[BloodStar]

Unbelievable and sad to hear,. Good thing is that you are still alive :)
You have also a gun?

[dirty_bass]

Wow, I`ve had the odd asshole turn up to a gig, but pulling a gun on me for what I`m playing?
Were you playing schranze bootlegs?
If so, he was entirely justified.

[Si the Sigh]

:)

[RDR]

Wow, I`ve had the odd asshole turn up to a gig, but pulling a gun on me for what I`m playing?
Were you playing schranze bootlegs?
If so, he was entirely justified.

:laughing:

Are you drnku again?

[DannyBlack]

Wow, I`ve had the odd asshole turn up to a gig, but pulling a gun on me for what I`m playing?
Were you playing schranze bootlegs?
If so, he was entirely justified.


:whoops: :laughing:

[koma]

schranz bootleg of 50cent might satisfy him.

anyway, last time some guy pulled a knife in a club here, he ended up beaten by bouncers pretty badly. spent 4 days in coma etc. thats how you deal with troublemakers.

[TechMouse]

I didn't think I was going to need my piece at an event like that.
Luckily for me the kids I was with were armed.
The one kid had a Baretta that drew first, he just so happens to be a lil bit racist against that kind so it was more incentive for him to go there, but like I said the next thing a Mac comes out, then a shottie, then another couple of straps. I wasn't thinking of bringing a piece with me to be honest, I had brass knuckles in my pocket, but that would notstop a bullet would it.
It's pathetic behavior, all I could think of was that if he would have got shot, I would have been witness to something even more escalated and I would never be ableto take the bar to become a lawyer.
Good grief.

Sorry dude but the idea of carrying a weapon anywhere has never even entered my mind. I live in East London now, and I used to live in Nottingham - both of which are characterised by high levels of gun and knife crime - and even so it just doesn't figure in my day to day life.

I'm not criticising you, as obviously you know more about your environment than I do, but it absolutely blows my mind to hear someone talking so nonchalantly about carrying firearms and knuckledusters.

Obviously, it's absolutely lunatic to show a piece to add weight to your request to change the music, but to me it's pretty out there to even have one in the first place, much less take one to a rave.

I'm considering moving abroad to work, and one place that could be on the cards is New York, but shit like this really makes me reconsider.

[TechMouse]

brillaint more dead ****head americans, brilliant.
Absolutely unnecessary Aratron. Please sort yourself out, for everyone else's sake if not your own.

[SlavikSvensk]

I'm considering moving abroad to work, and one place that could be on the cards is New York, but shit like this really makes me reconsider.

don't let this get in the way. new york is one of the safest big cities in the world at this point. less gun crime in manhattan than london now, though at a price of seeing the city a bit more sanitized and boring than it used to be.

i lived there for 5 years and never once saw a gun.

[ampassasinbirmingham]

You say the yob showed he had a gun on him, yet it says alot about your culture that two of your freinds also had guns and pulled them out? No better than the yob imo?

[audioinjection]

i've played quite a few gigs that ended up with guns being pulled but not over the type of music being played, it was more between different gangs being there blah blah........but im sure every dj here has had someone come up to you and ask to play the latest rap hit during your set.......a shame that this dumb ass had to show his gun to hear the latest 50 cent track, geez

[DannyBlack]

i ate a magnum .44 once. shat bullets for a week.

[tonyc2002]

i ate a magnum .44 once. shat bullets for a week.

try the ice cream next time dude :;

[The Overfiend]

don't let this get in the way. new york is one of the safest big cities in the world at this point. less gun crime in manhattan than london now, though at a price of seeing the city a bit more sanitized and boring than it used to be.

i lived there for 5 years and never once saw a gun.

Agreed, being a New York City native the quality of life there has been a way different ballgame from those portrayed in movies like Fort Apache or the Warriors. Anytime I have ever seen a firearm in NYC it was because I was with the entirely wrong crowd. Here in Phoenix there is a prevalent gun culture.
Gun laws are different all throughout the country, and in NYC you get at least 3 years for carrying a firearm and more time for each bullet, yet in Arizona you can have a gun hanging out your pocket and as long as you are the registered owner of the gun you may walkabout freely with it. You only need a license to carry concealed. Unfortunately it may seem like I was around the wrong crowd by being around people who have guns, yet here in Phoenix to be honest it is part of the culture and I know some pretty stand up people in society around here who are more than proud to carry a firearm freely. It's the thugs that think they are hot sh*t because they have a piece on them. Immediately after my first mate pulled out his gun on the kid I told him put the gun down so I can knock you out like a man, but he didn't want to do so. Hence more firearms being drawn. I was playing techno for the person who requested I play who was the person who threw the party for his own birthday, it sickens me that the tolerance for other peoples musical preferences is this low. I'm not too much a fan of fiddy but I do like that "I Get Money" song sampling Audio Two.
I git it!

[DannyBlack]

try the ice cream next time dude :;



:laughing: v. good mate.

[BRADLEE]

i've played quite a few gigs that ended up with guns being pulled but not over the type of music being played, it was more between different gangs being there blah blah........

Exactly man...Gang Activity.

Not techno Violence....

Period....

[BRADLEE]

Unfortunately it may seem like I was around the wrong crowd by being around people who have guns, yet here in Phoenix to be honest it is part of the culture and I know some pretty stand up people in society around here who are more than proud to carry a firearm freely. It's the thugs that think they are hot sh*t because they have a piece on them.

But come on homie, What upstanding person is going to pull a gun on you for the kind of music you are playing?

[massplanck]

Time for a whitelabel WetWorks Vs 50Cent schranz bootleg. ;)

[SlavikSvensk]

my god i can actually hear it, and the very thought gives me a headache...

BLAM BLAM in da club BLAM!
BLAM bottle of bub BLAM!
so come give me a...
BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM!
BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM!
BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM!
BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM!

(sound of gunfire persists over bangin' schranz beats)

[dubs]

^^^ haha - best thing is making it would take about as long as it took you to think of the idea.

[The Overfiend]

My Clan is thick like plaster
Bust ya, slash ya
Slit a nigga back like a Dutch Masta Killa
Style jumped off and Killa, Hill-er
I was the thriller in the Ali-Frazier Manilla
I came down with phat tracks that combine and interlock
Like getting smashed by a cinder block
Blaow! Now it's all over
Niggaz seein pink hearts, yellow moons
Orange stars and green cloversnot.

[The Overfiend]

But come on homie, What upstanding person is going to pull a gun on you for the kind of music you are playing?

I don't recall saying an upstanding individual in society would?

[The Overfiend]

I only wish instead of pulling a tool, homeboy would have reacted like this

http://youtube.com/watch?v=xhE-0IDpkiM

[rhythmtech]

I only wish instead of pulling a tool, homeboy would have reacted like this

http://youtube.com/watch?v=xhE-0IDpkiM

pure class :cool: :cheese:

...and i recognise a couple of samples that have been used thru the years in techno tracks :)

[RDR]

I only wish instead of pulling a tool, homeboy would have reacted like this

http://youtube.com/watch?v=xhE-0IDpkiM

:cheese:

[audioinjection]

detroit jit!

[eppertheleper]

That's why I carry an AK. I don't care what kind of strap you've got, anybody's gonna back down from an AK. Period.

Seriously, I don't own any guns, but I've got some friends with AK's, 9's, 40 cals, 357s, high-powered rifles. One of my friends even has a .500 caliber that his dad used to take with him when he went fishing in Alaska, just in case he crossed paths with a bear. That thing will make your arm sore for a week if you just fire it once.

Texas and Oklahoma are like Phoenix, but more redneck and less gangsta. There are gangstas around here, don't get me wrong, but they are in the vast minority when it comes to packing heat. It's just what's done. They've got concealed carry permits here, so you can carry a loaded pistol under your coat legally, which is pretty ridiculous, if you ask me. But it's also legal to carry four shotguns in plain view in your truck if you want to.

I've had guns pulled on me a few times. I've never been shot, knock on wood, but I've been scared shitless by the things before. Nothing makes you wish you had a gun like getting one shoved in your face. I've never broken down and bought one, because I don't think anything good can come from keeping guns around, but living in this society that is saturated with the things really makes you consider it.

It's better to have a gun and not need it than to need a gun and not have it. However, I'd rather live in a place where I can get in a nice, old fashioned fist fight without worrying about being shot in the face after I win.

[RDR]

This

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/7023750.stm

Is EXACTLY why guns are bad.

[The Overfiend]

That's why I carry an AK. I don't care what kind of strap you've got, anybody's gonna back down from an AK. Period.

Seriously, I don't own any guns, but I've got some friends with AK's, 9's, 40 cals, 357s, high-powered rifles. One of my friends even has a .500 caliber that his dad used to take with him when he went fishing in Alaska, just in case he crossed paths with a bear. That thing will make your arm sore for a week if you just fire it once.

Texas and Oklahoma are like Phoenix, but more redneck and less gangsta. There are gangstas around here, don't get me wrong, but they are in the vast minority when it comes to packing heat. It's just what's done. They've got concealed carry permits here, so you can carry a loaded pistol under your coat legally, which is pretty ridiculous, if you ask me. But it's also legal to carry four shotguns in plain view in your truck if you want to.

I've had guns pulled on me a few times. I've never been shot, knock on wood, but I've been scared shitless by the things before. Nothing makes you wish you had a gun like getting one shoved in your face. I've never broken down and bought one, because I don't think anything good can come from keeping guns around, but living in this society that is saturated with the things really makes you consider it.

It's better to have a gun and not need it than to need a gun and not have it. However, I'd rather live in a place where I can get in a nice, old fashioned fist fight without worrying about being shot in the face after I win.


Thank you for basically saying everything and more that I completely wanted to.

But my point exactly I would much rather put up my dukes anyday than threaten someones life.

[SlavikSvensk]

f***ing southerners :laughing:

(kidding...my best buddy is from tulsa)

[DannyBlack]

50Cent schranz bootleg. ;)



im on it.

[FILTERZ]

****in' Monkeys can't go without 50 Cent for a half hour?
I am so ashamed to call this place my home.


"Monkeys"


??????????

[RDR]

im on it.

Suprise=Start

>Suprise Info=Failed to start, check variable

Variable check=$Dan.Black (V1)
Variable check=$Schranz (V2)
Variable check=$Not suprised

Logic circuits $OVERLOAD

:laughing:

[BRADLEE]

Alrite, sounds like a challenge to me Danny. So....let's hear it. BTW...all is well on my side of the fence mate. Just been chilling out for a few momentz....

[DannyBlack]

:laughing: feck it man, might be a laugh, complete pisstake of course.

[DannyBlack]

Alrite, sounds like a challenge to me Danny. So....let's hear it. BTW...all is well on my side of the fence mate. Just been chilling out for a few momentz....



good to hear mate, seems like things are tough over your side of the pond at the moment. keep smilling hermano, you and Antonio.


and i shall make some loops tonight and get 50 cent schranz started.

[BDC]

That ****in sucks man and sorry you had to deal with that shit....

[tocsin]

Guess this is kind of old and don't know what's ahppened since but, shit, Overfiend, if that comment about passing the bar is real, get this element out of your life! I'm a lawyer myself. My roots and base for performance was pretty much the outlaw/hardcore scene around NYC. Upon getting into law school, I simply stopped going to any such parties. And, when dealing with people who would do dumb shit around me that could stand to get me arrested as well, I distanced myself almost 100%. I know guys who went through ethics hearings for years simply because they got caught with pot in college. Being arrested with a bunch of weapons toting fools that are connected to thug culture will absolutely **** you. Same goes with drugs. Keep that shit as far away from you ass possible. Your sanity and job security/investment will be the pay off.