Q How can I use side-chains in Steinberg Cubase SX?

[jon connor]

ok dudes im having probs with the routing anyone else here had same problem ?

ive found this piece here from sound on sound
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/sep05/articles/qa0905_4.htm

if anyone else has any other ideas or plugs they like to use with side chain please share with me im pulling my hair out ahhhhhhhhhhh!!!!

[jon connor]

would like to point out im using sx 3 guys cheers look forward to your advice ?

[jon connor]

ahhhhh! haa!! found this on another forum. very usefull indeed.

If anyone interested how to do it
Detailed description of "True Stereo Side-Chaining" with
Voxengo Crunchessor in Cubase SX3:
(testet with Crunchessor1.6 und Cubase SX3.1.0.933)
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The following example will use a kick drum track to duck/compress a bass line track:

1) Define a new Quadro Group and in this group 2 child/sub-groups ("Stereo" and "Stereo (Rs Ls)").
(How to do: See Page19 in Operation Manual of SX3)
2) Route Bass track directly to "Stereo" of the Quadro group.
3) Route Kick track directly (or with Pre-Fader Send (see below)) to "Stereo (Rs Ls)" of the Quadro group.
4) Insert crunchessor in an insert-slot of the Quadro group.
Start with the preset "Club is pumping" (or pull the Drive-knob to maximum)
in Crunchessor to see/hear the effect.
Choose a Side-Chain channel in crunchessor (in this case "SC: 3+4").
Leave the Crunchessor window open to see the effect via the gain reduction meter:
When the kick drum sets in, the bass track will be ducked/compressed according to the
compressor settings applied to the plug-in.

Routing with Pre-Fader Send:
Why this method ?
Of course you can route the kick track directly to the Quadro group,
but you won't hear the kick drum at the stereo output bus in this case.
a) Route a send-slot of the kick track to the Quadro group and activate this send-slot.
b) Set Pre-Fader switch to ON (the "at" symbol).
(This is necessary to retain the control over the volume slider for the kick track)
c) Set the Send-Amount slider to 0 (CTRL left click on the slider).

If you dont' have Crunchessor, there's a nice freebie for stereo side-chaining here:
http://www.geocities.jp/webmaster_of_sss/vst/index.html

Happy Side-Chaining !

[jon connor]

dont you just love youtube woo! brilliant but still like to hear wot you guys are doing ?

check this for those who need to know .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHfN9yeuoew&search=sidechain

[yellaman]

Yep, thats d way 2 do it. Works with Waves C1, Slim Slow Slider Sidechain Comp, Sonalksis Comp!, DB Audio Comp, and a few others.. didnt use to work with most plugs before but now its more common..

Start with the Ratio around 1:80 and Thres around 28.0db and play about til it works.. !!

.Kool.

[Kokotorobot]

ahhhhh! haa!! found this on another forum. very usefull indeed.

Detailed description of "True Stereo Side-Chaining" with
Voxengo Crunchessor in Cubase SX3:
(testet with Crunchessor1.6 und Cubase SX3.1.0.933)
================================================== ========
...

BRILLIANT! i was using waves c-1 and other shit to do it, but was wondering about the most painless stereo sidechaining option

absolutely great!

if anyones interested in how to do it with waves c1 in mono:

- create a stereo group
- hardpan your sidechain input (ie. kick) left and route it in the stereo group
- hardpan the material you want to be reacting (bass, synth, everything else) right and route it in the stereo group
- insert waves c1 on the stereo group, set it to L->R
- go to the mixer and right click on the panner, click dual and set it to the middle so your output is centered
- send your orig kick to another bus (as you can't hear it) or duplicate the channel, i recommend the later as it adds up for some more interesting effects

for some interesting shit, don't care about the sidechain feeding kick at all even use other waveforms and see what you come up with

the key is the rhythm anyway, it doesnt need to be based on your main kick

[jon connor]

nice yea ! but it is cool and im likeing the overall sound of a completed track when side chain is used this is somthing im currently in practice with. lets see wot happens ?

anyone else with any views ? or advice ?

MARK ? do you use side chain ?

[herman]

I use Cubase 4 now that has native side chaining http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLYymUEF8cA they just released the developers kit for VST 3 as well so third party plugs should support it soon.

[jon connor]

you are the don nice 1 ive just got 4.1 now so will install and get cracking.......