what is wonky

[rhythmtech]

i heard mark hawkins makes wonky techno. is this true? :roflmao:

[messyfuture]

are you crusing?

[TechMouse]

Barry "Death Wish" Technologies.

[rhythmtech]

i just heard that he made a lot of it?

is wonky techno that stuff with the beat crusher on it?










































:lol: :tongue: :roflmao:

[TechMouse]

i just heard that he made a lot of it?
He does. We just don't talk about it.


is wonky techno that stuff with the beat crusher on it?
That's the one. Over there by the postbox.

[rhythmtech]

He does. We just don't talk about it.





kinda like ch*ck nor*is?

[rhythmtech]

sorry.. we havent had a good wonk in here in ages :wink: :lol:

[TechMouse]

Wonking is not a crime.

(That works on so many levels).

[eyeswithoutaface]

something tell's me Mark wont rise to this one

[rhythmtech]

d'ya reckon?

probably too busy writing offbeat music?























































(sorry mark!!!!!:lol: :lol: :lol: )

[TechMouse]

something tell's me Mark wont rise to this one
I dunno man.

People get the horn over all sorts of weird stuff.

[eyeswithoutaface]

I dunno man.

People get the horn over all sorts of weird stuff.

hahahaha

well, true

[stjohn]

:lol::lol:


proper conversation on this forum has really plummeted


daddy, whats a euro?

[rhythmtech]

daddy,

so your mum finally told you our dirty secret son?

[stjohn]

ye !! why on earth you would want to exchange sexualities is beyond me

[rhythmtech]

for the pies.. its always for the pies.

beef & gravy, chicken & mushroom.. mmmmmm.....


do i really need to go on?

[MITA]

wonky is when it wonks

[detfella]

what boa needs is some system like digg where we can bury the shit threads

[rhythmtech]

what boa needs is some system like digg where we can bury the shit threads

what we need is a system like the mafia where we can bury those who've had a senseofhumourectomy!!!


without the shit threads this place would be dead its that quiet lately :lol:

[TechMouse]

Arsebook is killing internet forums.

[judas_beast]

Wonking is not a crime.

(That works on so many levels).

It's bad for yer eyesight though.




This is Squatuice, right?

[RDR]

who said that?

wonker.

[crime]

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-1184852998430687828&q=mark+hawkins&total=216&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=1

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6050140451368891860&hl=en

[massplanck]

Mark Hawkins. The king of wonky techno.

[crime]

I guess I'll never live that one down, no matter how inaccurate I feel it to be.. thanks for plastering my name around though, you never know, it might help with the gigs and stuff :P

[massplanck]

;)

[rhythmtech]

I guess I'll never live that one down, no matter how inaccurate I feel it to be.. thanks for plastering my name around though, you never know, it might help with the gigs and stuff :P

mm.. agents fee 15% :wink: :lol:

[ritaheed]

hawkins is brilliant - luv his jakd up wonk shit - gutted tht a missed him @ monox in glasgow!!

[rhythmtech]

jakd up wonk shit

is that a "street" term for crack? and you love his "jakd up wonk shit"?

is he a crack dealer now?

[judas_beast]

is that a "street" term for crack? and you love his "jakd up wonk shit"?

is he a crack dealer now?

A Mans gotta get paid!

[ritaheed]

is that a "street" term for crack? and you love his "jakd up wonk shit"?

is he a crack dealer now?

yer a funny man - can a plz hang aboot wae u??

[rhythmtech]

no

[ritaheed]

well bolt wae yer thick irish no good comments then.....

[rhythmtech]

firstly, what language are you speakin?

secondly, keep your thick irish comments to yourself or you wont find yourself lasting too long around here.

and finally, this thread was made for fun. just havin a laugh with someone over some old banter that was on the site.. so dont come wading in givin it all that when you obviously have no idea what we're talking about in the first place.

[ritaheed]

firstly im speaking english but im scottish.....

secondly are you irish?? well then... anyways it was banter :P

and finally it didnt come across as fun to me....especially when ye decided to pick up on what a said......

anyways who cares...if its banter then fair enough

[rhythmtech]

well considering whats been said in the thread and the fact that mark himself has posted in it knowing that its banter, how did you manage not to pick up on it?

and so what if im irish.. that makes me thick?

i guarantee you if i was to call you a skirt wearing fairy who's country hasnt got the balls to stand up to its english masters, i wouldnt be too long geting banned.

but i'd never say something like that :wink:

[rhythmtech]

anyway.. its way to early for all this lark.

[...Dave...]

my cock:yup:

[clubsynthetic]

wonky is me after a good dose of acid

[crime]

I was dubious about this thread to start with, but now it's become quite highly amusing, but come on, calm down lads.... christ :D

[DannyBlack]

its all fun and games til someone loses an eye.


if wonky refers to that miditonal techno then i like it. good 'n' funky.

[ritaheed]

well considering whats been said in the thread and the fact that mark himself has posted in it knowing that its banter, how did you manage not to pick up on it?

and so what if im irish.. that makes me thick?

i guarantee you if i was to call you a skirt wearing fairy who's country hasnt got the balls to stand up to its english masters, i wouldnt be too long geting banned.

but i'd never say something like that :wink:


nah wasnt talkin aboot wot ye said about mark it was what ye picked up on wot a said - and aye if yer irish yer as thick as a plank of wood - everyone knows tht ;)

english masters they wish.... they got telt along time ago - and aye if a had ma scottish klt on and a seen you ye would get tea bagged right on yer puss!!

[TechMouse]

I was dubious about this thread to start with, but now it's become quite highly amusing, but come on, calm down lads.... christ :D
We're getting all the stereotypes today.

http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/1456/calmdownar7.jpg

[RDR]

english masters they wish.... they got telt along time ago

Sail on dreamer :rolleyes: :lol:

pwned

[ritaheed]

Sail on dreamer :rolleyes: :lol:

pwned

Battle of Bannockburn 1314 - nuff said!!!

[ritaheed]

and who's got the oil - no use bitches anyways......plus us scotts rock the show wen it comes to techno.....:D

[DannyBlack]

ah lads relax! we're all british!!! we all speak the queens language!

[mattboyslim]

ah lads relax! we're all british!!! we all speak the queens language!
the queen is a twat

[Microdot]

the queen is a twat

but she does give good blow jobs, allegedly.

[RDR]

but she does give good blow jobs, allegedly.

Prince Phil is mad at the Mark.

@rita - only joshing man...! cant pass up a wind up oportunity;)

Im quarter irish, qtr, english, qtr scots and qtr welsh. so im only dissing my grandparents and myself really.

[ritaheed]

Prince Phil is mad at the Mark.

@rita - only joshing man...! cant pass up a wind up oportunity;)

Im quarter irish, qtr, english, qtr scots and qtr welsh. so im only dissing my grandparents and myself really.


aye a know man - awwww banter! :D

[crime]

its all fun and games til someone loses an eye.


if wonky refers to that miditonal techno then i like it. good 'n' funky.

this is the problem with wonky, and where it all went wrong....

Miditonal? there is a lot more to being funky than just wacking the swing quantise up to 75%...

Danny, there is a lot of stuff from the mid nineties that miditonal is a very poor imitation of...

try checking these out, of much higher standard and quality:

http://www.discogs.com/label/Mosquito
http://www.discogs.com/label/Sativae
http://www.discogs.com/label/Predicaments up to Pred 12
http://www.discogs.com/artist/Cristian+Vogel
http://www.discogs.com/label/Force+Inc.+Music+Works (the odd release here and there)
http://www.discogs.com/artist/Neil+Landstrumm

go out and search, I mean, maybe it's a matter of taste, but listening to the music, and after seeing the attitude of some of the people involved I'm really not into it... miditonal was a pure bandwagon jump, a pure cash in, so for people such as myself, it's kind of sad to see people like that getting so much recognition when many of the originators go un-noticed... I guess this is why I ended up hating the "wanky" word so much, it made everything too defined, and also, as I've often said before, it associated artists like Landstrumm, Vogel, youngman, and many other very talented musicians with a bunch of bandwagon jumpers who really have no idea of what it's really about..
maybe I sound snobbish here, but seriously, I keep an open mind about most stuff, but a lot of the music that came out of east germany over the past 5 years left me feeling pretty cold, plastic drum sounds, cheesy synth lines, and far, far too much distortion..... just an opinion of course, if you really like it, fair enough, but it's a bit of an east german version of hard house to me....

[crime]

actually, check this out: http://www.discogs.com/release/1129796
made me feel like throwing all the machines out of the window when I first heard it, the rule book is rewritten yet again.... if you don't get it, it's just too far ahead for you :P

[crime]

Actually, why am I giving you pointers? you like schranz so your opinion is null and void......

[ritaheed]

Actually, why am I giving you pointers? you like schranz so your opinion is null and void......

hahahaha eeeeezy mark....wanna of yer tunes is on abstract?? - schranz label??

[clubsynthetic]

lol

i think Miditonal does sound samey, i do like some tracks but not them all as do others i imagine. I don't think i'll write them off 'tho 'cos it seems like a bandwagon to folk. and that Vogel example you gave Crime I have heard before and it is good.

[ritaheed]

lol

i think Miditonal does sound samey, i do like some tracks but not them all as do others i imagine. I don't think i'll write them off 'tho 'cos it seems like a bandwagon to folk. and that Vogel example you gave Crime I have heard before and it is good.


the mark forshaw tune is a belter - tear up is a belter and the TFL tune is kool aswell

[crime]

the mark forshaw tune is a belter - tear up is a belter and the TFL tune is kool aswell

Mark forshaw????

this is the poiint, the only good tunes are the ones not written by the miditonal crew.. they use other peole's good trax to sell their shit ones, they tried it on like that with me & I wouldn't have it....

[ritaheed]

mark just ****in cash in........aw aboooot $$$$$$$

[ritaheed]

aye only miditonal tunes a bought was the TFL and the forshaw one

just noticed how its MIDITONAL VS CHAIN N MIKES ..... a c yer point

[clubsynthetic]

well should one not dis the label, but the shit artist?

If a record has good choons on it, then its a good record. Not saying that what what your saying ain't true Crime, it just seemed a bit all-inclusive.

[Microdot]

classic wonky:-



http://www.discogs.com/release/165659

[DannyBlack]

this is the problem with wonky, and where it all went wrong....

Miditonal? there is a lot more to being funky than just wacking the swing quantise up to 75%...

Danny, there is a lot of stuff from the mid nineties that miditonal is a very poor imitation of...

try checking these out, of much higher standard and quality:

http://www.discogs.com/label/Mosquito
http://www.discogs.com/label/Sativae
http://www.discogs.com/label/Predicaments up to Pred 12
http://www.discogs.com/artist/Cristian+Vogel
http://www.discogs.com/label/Force+Inc.+Music+Works (the odd release here and there)
http://www.discogs.com/artist/Neil+Landstrumm

go out and search, I mean, maybe it's a matter of taste, but listening to the music, and after seeing the attitude of some of the people involved I'm really not into it... miditonal was a pure bandwagon jump, a pure cash in, so for people such as myself, it's kind of sad to see people like that getting so much recognition when many of the originators go un-noticed... I guess this is why I ended up hating the "wanky" word so much, it made everything too defined, and also, as I've often said before, it associated artists like Landstrumm, Vogel, youngman, and many other very talented musicians with a bunch of bandwagon jumpers who really have no idea of what it's really about..
maybe I sound snobbish here, but seriously, I keep an open mind about most stuff, but a lot of the music that came out of east germany over the past 5 years left me feeling pretty cold, plastic drum sounds, cheesy synth lines, and far, far too much distortion..... just an opinion of course, if you really like it, fair enough, but it's a bit of an east german version of hard house to me....

i hear what your saying, to be honest when it comes to what people call "wonky", I havent got a bloody clue. When I think "wonky" i thnk of the stuff that 'Wrong' is putting out, really funky mad as a hatter techno. I'm gonna check out your recommendations, cheers.

[DannyBlack]

actually, check this out: http://www.discogs.com/release/1129796
made me feel like throwing all the machines out of the window when I first heard it, the rule book is rewritten yet again.... if you don't get it, it's just too far ahead for you :P
actually mate, on that note- you got any mixes featuring your recommendations? "wonky" mixes like.

[clubsynthetic]

actually mate, on that note- you got any mixes featuring your recommendations? "wonky" mixes like.


http://www.fun-in-the-murky.com/Audio/QuickandSmart/QuickandSmart%20-%20Live%20Set%20(Sept%202005).mp3

[DannyBlack]

I think I have this one, is it Jerome Hill?

[TechMouse]

I think I have this one, is it Jerome Hill?
No: it's Quick & Smart, as you may guess from the filename.

[DannyBlack]

No: it's Quick & Smart, as you may guess from the filename.

That would be logical... I'm home sick, brain aint functioning as well (jury is out on that still) as it usually does.

[wrong]

classic wonky:-



http://www.discogs.com/release/165659


heheh, indeed! And also maximal respect for DX invader.. Lived firmly in my bag for years and years ;)

[DannyBlack]

heheh, indeed! And also maximal respect for DX invader.. Lived firmly in my bag for years and years ;)


i had something living firmly in my bag once, turned out to be syphalis.





:lol:

[crime]

classic wonky:-



http://www.discogs.com/release/165659


this record was a big influence on my early djax stuff... it got caned at the early uglyfunk parties,

along with this one:

http://www.discogs.com/release/76539

cracking stuff...

[crime]

http://www.blackoutaudio.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=39992

????

[DannyBlack]

this record was a big influence on my early djax stuff... it got caned at the early uglyfunk parties,

along with this one:

http://www.discogs.com/release/76539

cracking stuff...

So would you consider yourself wonky, in your definition of the word?

From what I've heard from you guys and the mixes I have listened too, my collection (second to acid) is massively dominated by wonky records.

[crime]

So would you consider yourself wonky, in your definition of the word?

From what I've heard from you guys and the mixes I have listened too, my collection (second to acid) is massively dominated by wonky records.

I've made loads of different stuff over the years, ranging from Hard Techno, Chicago style trax, through to electronica through to hiphop beats, dubstep inspired stuff, and pretty much everything in between, so I wouldn't really tie myself to any one "genre" or "sound"

the surgeon track on this was another influence for me:

http://www.discogs.com/release/76415

[mattboyslim]

i wish genres would just **** off, so people could either play good music, or shit music

[TechMouse]

i wish genres would just **** off, so people could either play good music, or shit music
Why would anyone play shit music?

[mattboyslim]

Why would anyone play shit music?I've no idea. they do though don't they

[crime]

I've no idea. they do though don't they

because 1 man's turd is another mans treasure, the is no such thing as "good music" or "shit music" apart from inside your own head, and that's all based around what you like and what you don't like..

your idea of a good track might be my idea of a shit track, and if you really like something, someone else telling you it's shit it just going to make you think that they just don't get it..

so there's really only 2 kinds of music, music you like and music you don't like..

Genres can be usefull as descriptive terms in a record shop situation, but the problem is, some people view their favorite genre in the same terms that they view their favourite football team, and unimaginative producers become all engrossed in one sound convinced that any kind of step out of the remit of the said genre is "selling out" which is kind of playground mentality really, I mean, why limit yourself? you scared that your friends won't like you anymore because, you know, likeing minimal is soooo saaad!!!??? or liking jazz is soo turtleneck??

again, this is the point for me, the first 2 waves of so-called "wonky" artists were influenced by a lot of different stuff, whereas the 3rd wave that came out of germany just seemed to want to copy the first two, which is why the music came out sounding plastic and unfunky to me...

[mattboyslim]

I wasn't being serious but thanks for taking the time to explain your view point :-)

[crime]

I wasn't being serious but thanks for taking the time to explain your view point :-)

well, it's pretty much the truth of it though, innit?

[Microdot]

Why would anyone play shit music?

dunno. maybe you should ask Sven or Richie.