the most technical jocks within?

[FuK-NuT]

always been a fan of trickery behind the wheels, fusing turntabilist stylee with
this here techno shizzle (aslong as its done well)...apart from the obvious does anyone know off anyone that falls under this bracket...ie

dj murphy
ben sims
sekonz
jerome hill
dave shades

ie

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMLQOZc0XE8

[marginmaster]

love that clip, always have. restecp.

[fils_here]

quality that ^^

[wenna]

i would say the dj producer, raw as u like and the space djz for the same reason

[davethedrummer]

who is the bloke in the clip anyway
i don't recognize the back of his head
it could be me!!
but it isn't

[rhythmtech]

that clip is sekonz. he's a bit good like.

[davethedrummer]

yeah not bad
but i bet he couldn't put a fruit pastelle in his mouth without chewing it

[dan the acid man]

yeah not bad
but i bet he couldn't put a fruit pastelle in his mouth without chewing it

It's just impossible isn't it, i've yet to find anybody that can

[DJCraig Ryan]

Don't get me wrong the chap has skills...but that sounded awful.

Wasn't pleasant on the ears. Erm what about Dave Clarke & Eddie Halliwell, I know they dont go to this extreme and are different to this style but still rate them as 'technical' djs.

[rhythmtech]

Dave Clarke

bit of a love him or hate him guy really.

i havent seen him look interested in what he was doing the last 2 times i saw him. looked like he was just going thru the motions to be honest and the "world service 2" mix was dreadful - back in the day though he blew me away on many occasions!

[Siege]

Some of it was good,...some of it was messy.....like with Cubert, looks good to watch but sounds shite.....tendency to be messy a lot of the time when doing crab scratches etc... for me it as to be clean and tight.

[DJCraig Ryan]

bit of a love him or hate him guy really.

i havent seen him look interested in what he was doing the last 2 times i saw him. looked like he was just going thru the motions to be honest and the "world service 2" mix was dreadful - back in the day though he blew me away on many occasions!



Yea i agree. Thats the thing with dave clarke he never looks interested one bit, but he has some raw talent

[wenna]

fx units just piss me off tbh. get some interesting records!!!!!

[marginmaster]

Thats the thing with dave clarke he never looks interested one bit,


not true

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2UhC03YWoE

[Siege]

Thats a rare sight;)

[DJCraig Ryan]

Ha Yea he just looks like a right nob there...cheesy as!!

[module]

fx units just piss me off tbh. get some interesting records!!!!!

lol... thats funny

[rhythmtech]

lol... thats funny

was just thinkin that myself!!!

get rid of the fx units and go buy interesting records (that are covered in fx units) :lol: :lol: :lol:

[DannyBlack]

(that are covered in fx units) :lol: :lol: :lol:


Damaged acid then Baz?

[FuK-NuT]

Don't get me wrong the chap has skills...but that sounded awful.

Wasn't pleasant on the ears. Erm what about Dave Clarke & Eddie Halliwell, I know they dont go to this extreme and are different to this style but still rate them as 'technical' djs.


jog on

[FuK-NuT]

Some of it was good,...some of it was messy.....like with Cubert, looks good to watch but sounds shite.....tendency to be messy a lot of the time when doing crab scratches etc... for me it as to be clean and tight.


wot exactly do you find "messy" about it? i can assure you that the maker of
that video wouldnt have put it up if he felt he didnt nail everything as he intended to...and to say q-bert is sloppy is a tad harsh..

do u have and references to better?

[Siege]

The main clip posted is good...but i watched some of the other clips that are there when that 1 finishes and on these some of the scratching is messy and slightly out.....just all transforming, crab scratches etc..no hand scratches.

Cubert is a legend, dont get me wrong, influenced me over the years....but again, is scratching can be very messy in the patterns etc he puts together.
Mixmaster Mike who used to scratch for the beastie boys is far better....better technique, patterns etc...more of a story to his scratching than just a load of transforming all over the place.

If your clued up on scratching you would know what im going on about and wouldnt take offence to my comments.....theres good scratching and theres bad scratching.

go check Mixmaster Mike, thats a reference.

[DJCraig Ryan]

Is this your little buddy or somefin? Lets get this straight...i wasn't knocking the lads skills looks sick and he is skilled. I was talking about the sounds he is using...sounded absolutely shite. As a couple of other people said get some decent records on.

Back your comment up lad before you jump in

[wenna]

yeah the title of the post is: 'the most technical jocks within?' and the guy in the clip isn't imo.

[FuK-NuT]

Is this your little buddy or somefin? Lets get this straight...i wasn't knocking the lads skills looks sick and he is skilled. I was talking about the sounds he is using...sounded absolutely shite. As a couple of other people said get some decent records on.

Back your comment up lad before you jump in

he is indeed...altho i put the video up as reference only. i asked a question
yet none of u have answered.

im purly interested to know of people who use the turntables as some i have mentioned....never set out to start a "whos better than who" thread...end
of the day weather i like it or not im a promoter, always on the hunt for new
and exciting talent.

thanks for your help tho ;)

[FuK-NuT]

The main clip posted is good...but i watched some of the other clips that are there when that 1 finishes and on these some of the scratching is messy and slightly out.....just all transforming, crab scratches etc..no hand scratches.

Cubert is a legend, dont get me wrong, influenced me over the years....but again, is scratching can be very messy in the patterns etc he puts together.
Mixmaster Mike who used to scratch for the beastie boys is far better....better technique, patterns etc...more of a story to his scratching than just a load of transforming all over the place.

If your clued up on scratching you would know what im going on about and wouldnt take offence to my comments.....theres good scratching and theres bad scratching.

go check Mixmaster Mike, thats a reference.

havent taken offence m8 sorry if it reads like that but my questions are genuine and have purpose...and i know enough to know that its q-bert, if therez a cubert i appologies ;)

[FuK-NuT]

yeah the title of the post is: 'the most technical jocks within?' and the guy in the clip isn't imo.


it was a question....ie ?

[wenna]

the dj producer in my opinion. quite unique, he has the oldskool hip-hop attitude

[tamobanter]

sekno is an amazing turntablist...but in all honesty...seen him do better in the flesh jst messing around than on that video...an old one aswell is it not?? i've been scratching since i was 19 and am comfortable with the level i'm at, having the 08 pro these days is an advantage because its a digital mixer and the faders are seriously tight, scratching over hiphop breaks dnb and especially breakcore is something i enjoy but spend more time mixing these days....got a couple of routines with some breakcore battle weapons.....might have to film it at some point and get it on youtube ;)

always enjoy an 8 bar session wi sekonz when we're both up for it...end up jst cutting fer hours...even better fun wi the serato for recording our own vocal samples etc to cut up :)

big ups tae sekno

[Siege]

havent taken offence m8 sorry if it reads like that but my questions are genuine and have purpose...and i know enough to know that its q-bert, if therez a cubert i appologies ;)

Answers to your questions..

"anybody else know of people into turntablism?" yes...me

"what exactly do you mean by messy?" out of sync...not tight

"reference?" Mixmaster Mike

and yeah, theres only 1 Q-bert, the 1 you mean...and i stand by what i said about him.

Not being funny...just making a point that i do know what im talking about with regards to scratching - turntablism......been into scratching since i was 16 years old....im now 30
im just very critical thats all.

[tamobanter]

Answers to your questions..

"anybody else know of people into turntablism?" yes...me

"what exactly do you mean by messy?" out of sync...not tight

"reference?" Mixmaster Mike

and yeah, theres only 1 Q-bert, the 1 you mean...and i stand by what i said about him.

Not being funny...just making a point that i do know what im talking about with regards to scratching - turntablism......been into scratching since i was 16 years old....im now 30
im just very critical thats all.

qbert is a turntablist wizard

not forgetting others like...

a-trak (won the dmc's when he was 13)
craze
plus one (also from edinburgh...sound dude)
kintaro
klever
skully
scratch perverts (playing edinburgh in sept)
dj rafik
shortkut
d-styles
c2c
cutmaster swift

to name but a few...

ritchie rufftone is really good aswell....but a major fail on the gay RnB he plays these days:lol:

:techno:

[FuK-NuT]

thats all very well and good but im more after knowing about the people who
combine these skillz with techno, as asked!

[tamobanter]

thats all very well and good but im more after knowing about the people who
combine these skillz with techno, as asked!

scratchin over techno sounds shit imo..too slow..jerome hill is good at it but i still think its pretty wack..
but i do like what sekno does wi the beat juggling and effects with techno:smile:

[basslinejunkie]

ive watched the video, some of it sounds good, some of it doesnt. of course its just a youtube uplaod also so probably alot of the sound quality will be lost. but imo in techno, there isnt a need to do as much as that anyway. subtle rather than OTT imo.

[FuK-NuT]

scratchin over techno sounds shit imo..too slow..jerome hill is good at it but i still think its pretty wack..
but i do like what sekno does wi the beat juggling and effects with techno:smile:

i dont care...i want to know who else does it in techno.

[tamobanter]

i dont care...i want to know who else does it in techno.

nae bother lol

mark n (hardcore techno) bangin turntablist....sure he won the uk dmc's at some point tae

[qUE]

i dont care...i want to know who else does it in techno.

I personally used to subtley scratch stuff over the top of Techno many years ago, but now I very rarely mix vinyl (what with one of my decks being old/needing repair and developing my own kit etc.) I'm out of practice and probably value my records a bit more now :(

I dunno about this being clinical with beats, it's just part of the whole showboating thing. I find sloppy offsetting stuff is fine, it's just train tracks you want to avoid :)

[Siege]

I dunno about this being clinical with beats, it's just part of the whole showboating thing. I find sloppy offsetting stuff is fine, it's just train tracks you want to avoid :)[/QUOTE]

Just down to personal preference then isnt it;)

[clubsynthetic]

lol@ this thread

Techno would be totally class - i'm NOT saying it isn't already - but if someone nailed juggling like Q-Bert. I haven't seen anyone at that calibre so ya'll get practising! I suppose Dave shades was ok but not MASHUP STYLEEEE.

as for scratching over techno sounding too slow, i think you need to take a longer look at Jerome, Tam and study his fluency with regards to the music he plays at that moment. Gary is good at scratching, but at techno speed i think it all about different combinations i.e scribbling etc too.. like this shiz - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_FFe7lmPuA

[tonyc2002]

I want to learn some turntabalism but I find it quite hard. I can however, scratch my arse.

[clubsynthetic]

doesn't bam bam do all that shit?

[qUE]

I want to learn some turntabalism but I find it quite hard. I can however, scratch my arse.

If it makes the same sample timestretch warping sound and not you shitting yourself, I think you're on to something there ;)

[tonyc2002]

If it makes the same sample timestretch warping sound and not you shitting yourself, I think you're on to something there ;)

:lol: Indeed!

[kate manus]

dj murphy
definitely a fan of his... sometimes the scratching can be a bit much but overall I find it quite tasteful... and he puts on a great show!

[Stretch]

Paul Damage does a bit of scratching.

[speed-it-up]

Claude Young.
Got the tricks, plays the techno.

[the_psychologist]

i must agree - trickery is good in techno, but only if its danceable. even in turntablism/hip hop, it can quickly turn into a wankfest where people are just standing around and watching the "insane skills".

these days, just seeing a DJ play a solid set for 2 hours with tight beatmatching, tasteful tricks, relevant track selection, proper levels, and harmonious mixes can be a treat.


Don't get me wrong the chap has skills...but that sounded awful.

Wasn't pleasant on the ears. Erm what about Dave Clarke & Eddie Halliwell, I know they dont go to this extreme and are different to this style but still rate them as 'technical' djs.

[stjohn]

Claude Young.
Got the tricks, plays the techno.

he doesnt really have the trix tho.. he's good at making it look like he does.. but he's a bit sloppy and does silly stuff that any ol eejit can do like move the cross fader with his chin.

nice guy tho :)

[marginmaster]

Paul Damage does a bit of scratching.

hes a legend:yup:

[DannyBlack]

This guy is prety bloody impressive!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4hDsgKEXbI

[DannyBlack]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTw56lQAlvk

[DannyBlack]

and again, bloody silly hat though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vT2n1hceh0Y

[Siege]

yeah, those are all quality, but the thread is about "those within techno".
Could do with getting a clip of my own up....have to get 1 sorted.

[The Overfiend]

Would def like to hear a Siege set

[DannyBlack]

yeah, those are all quality, but the thread is about "those within techno".
Could do with getting a clip of my own up....have to get 1 sorted.

I getcha! Sorry lads!

Seige, you practice turntablism?

[Siege]

I getcha! Sorry lads!

Seige, you practice turntablism?

I can scratch pretty good and do some juggling,etc.....i like to fit a bit into a dj set when possible.....
as mentioned in here though, gotta be in moderation...short bursts or it can get too much.
Try get a clip up soon;)

[DannyBlack]

NIce one, would love to see it!

[Loop]

Has no one mentioned Thomas Krome yet?

[clubsynthetic]

Has no one mentioned Thomas Krome yet?

interesting. is he expensive?

[davethedrummer]

i have to say i'm not really into all that scratching stuff
i generally find it annoying

sorry

[clubsynthetic]

ooooooooooo

[TomFoolery]

I would like to learn to scratch and beat juggle etc but its one of those things that people do to show off rather than necessarily add to the music. Don't get me wrong its bloody impressive and i would love to be able to do it, but it just seems like showboating more than anything else.

[clubsynthetic]

thats what being at the top is all about. showboating your skills!

[davethedrummer]

dear DJ craze

I dropped a record on the floor last night and stepped on it
now it's got a huge scratch on it

does that make me a turntablist?






* dj craze mutters "if i had a nickel".......and walks off in disgust *

[tocsin]

Hellfish.

[Loop]

@clubsynthetic, yes Thomas Krome is expensive(or was), but worth every bean mate, get on it!

[DJPAUZE]

Murphy ftw. Hands down the most technical techno dj out there.

For Turntablism i would say Q-BERT or A-track.

[rhythmtech]

^^ i agree, murphy can be technically excellent but i find he tries to do too much sometimes when theres a simpler option and this can lead to some very gringeworthy moments.. although i must stress that these are very few and far between.