The BOA Guide To Real Hard Techno

[MARK ANXIOUS]

There's alot of new artists for ppl to get their heads around in this new digital age :)

It'll be a great idea I think to post a thread where we can all say who some of the artists are that are really cutting it and a paragraph underneath about them.. Where their websites are, perhaps a pic,a small bio, a link.. etc...

Then we make a guide to it as a press release for the various worldwide hard copy magazines.....

But don't post your own shit here.. just post people you're willing to stand up and recommend... They must be prolific current.... OK perhaps you can put yourself but if anyone doesnt think it's right after it's been posted, let me know on info@markeg.com and I'll take it down!

Off the top of my head as of now, I would ask of you to put recommendations about

Virgil Enzinger
Luis Ruiz
Ritzi Lee
Reeko
Andreas Kremer
Oscar Mulero
Vegim
Oinks
Glenn Wilson
Mattias Friedel
Ryuji Takauchi
Mike Humphries
Machine Code
S-Tek
Andreas Florin
A Paul
Patrick DSP
Brad Lee
Concrete DJz

But I'm so sorry, there's TONNES i have missed out!!!

None of the tribal stuff, or schranz guys. Let's keep it to the hard techno thing...

[DannyBlack]

There's a few on there I would have to strongly disagree with. Hard Techno? Nah, slow and derivative, yes.

Virgil Enzinger- yes. One of my favorites. Interesting moody Techno.
Andreas Kremer- a legend in everything he does be it hard or schranz or whatever. Good music.
Glenn and Mattias- Agreed. I love their stuff. It's off the beaten track for me but it works.
Ryuji and brad lee- savage. Same goes with Paddy DSP. Marvelous.

I can see that there are some that apply to the Hard Techno tag- but there are a lot there that I don't understand.

A Paul for instance. I don't get it. I find it formulaic. Build ups of white noise that go up and up and break with nothing. Let me just add that this is no dig. respect to him for doing his thing and I'm sure he's a nice chap. (he's Portuguese, they are lovely people)

There's a good few that haven't made your list for now. But there is some very very new talent waiting to break that deserve a mention here.

Darren Gale.
Little Fella/Ben Deviant.
Luke Downie/Oris.
SPR.

There's a good few more. The above are the stand outs for me- watch this space too ;-)

[djfilthmonger]

agreed on the A.Paul thing . no interest at all in his music. good production dont get me wrong just boooring

[DannyBlack]

Antonio Lugo. Wetworks. Non stop, no let up consistently interesting hard as nails Techno. A MASSIVE inspiration to me and a top bloke to boot. Hard Techno at it's very finest.

[Woksaus]

Virgil Enzinger
Reeko
Andreas Kremer
Oscar Mulero
Vegim
Ryuji TakauchiThese guys are amazing!

You're forgetting some great stuff though:
Go Hiyama (legend!)
Takaaki Itoh (check out Bloom After Broken Life, wonderful EP)
Asagaoaudio
Exium
Christian Wunsch
Bas Mooy & Jeroen Liebregts (obviously)
And The Advent & Industrialyzer still do it for me ^^

[ritaheed]

Virgil Enzinger
Luis Ruiz
Ritzi Lee
Reeko
Andreas Kremer
Oscar Mulero
Vegim
Oinks
Glenn Wilson
Mattias Friedel
Ryuji Takauchi
Mike Humphries
Machine Code
S-Tek
Andreas Florin
A Paul
Patrick DSP
Brad Lee
Concrete DJz

that list just proves that people's concept of hard techno is way off esp if were going by what they produce nowadays (not a dig)

[teknorich]

Yeah, some of those names are historically harder techno, but their output nowadays has changed.

Ryuji Takeuchi's more recent stuff all sounds like the Dubfire remix of "Spastic" to me - white noise hisses and rolling snare drums. I definitely wouldn't call it hard techno.

[DVNT]

+1 for Wetworks
Hoth System (solid relentless and well produced)

[ritaheed]

+1 for Wetworks
Hoth System (solid relentless and well produced)

Any links to hoth systems stuff mate?

[ethno]

Wavemother
David Moleon
Axel Karakasis
Primus Tech
Thomas Krome made some good hard tech in his day :(

[MITA]

what you on about, speedy J is hard as ever for example.
if you try and work that you might even see that he is.

its 2010 ffs, we got tracktorz, abletonz and all sort of shizz to make the output artist provides a perfect whatever you want it genre (techno)

stop thinking backwards.

[qUE]

Recent stuff I heard is;

Rumenige
Loktibrada
and probably a whole host of other artists from Slovakia and Czech Republic

Inigo Kennedy (still occasionally does some harder tracks)

Riotbot

Max Walder

Those lot from Hungary are putting out some darker tracks (Doryk, etc.)

Leo Laker is still making stuff afaik

People like Takaakit Itoh were doing some really heavy shit earier on, but seemed to have calmed down massively :(

TBH, if I really had a scout there is probably still plenty of it out there, like what's been said on many threads, just too much minimal shit everywhere.

[eppertheleper]

Eric Sneo - He may be a little melodramatic, but the man brings it.
Planetary Assault Systems - Seemed to fall off the map for a while, but back of late, and with a vengeance.
Radial - I think we can all agree here.
Anthony Child - He doesn't produce as much as he used to, but the quality is still there and definitely not glitch.

[Veber]

A.Paul - i differ on above opinions.

and im a convert/soldier for a.paul. Find his work the only kind that exsists and represents proper hard techno. I've made a decision to produce just for his label only if he continues his philosophy.

[Elvio Neto]

A.Paul is not new at all , i see him play live since 1993

is new stuff is boring i agree , but in the 90´s he was a bomb and used to have 3 labels

he have so many classic cd´s and releases in the 90´s just check is old stuff you guys will see the true A.Paul , but the new style he adopted is boring i agree (all old producers are actually with new styles)

its incredible how people know a few Portuguese artists like Ricardo (Industrialyzer) , Francisco Ferreira (The Advent) , Jose Miguel (Ze Mig L) and never heard about the A.Paul... he used to be the best of all in the old days (and was a reference in techno in all Iberic Peninsula Portugal/Spain)

[Mattias_Fridell]

Yeah, some of those names are historically harder techno, but their output nowadays has changed.


Truth. Many of us mentioned there changed direction and is changing it even more soon.

One guy I dig a lot when it comes to "harder Techno" is Luis Ruiz. Brilliant producer but I really like his all around work, chicago stuff, sci-fi inspired and detroit flavored beats. Worthwhile to check up all his stuff.

[FuK-NuT]

lol mark that list reads 70 / 80% tuff minimal...with the exception of a couple...

need to get digging the crates san ;)

[The Overfiend]

Dj Ze Mig L never lost the mother****ing plot
DJ Ze MigL - 02 Sound of Kuduro (DJ Ze MigL BOOTLEG) - SoundCloud (http://soundcloud.com/djzemigl/02-sound-of-kuduro-dj-ze-migl-bootleg)

Dare someone to mix into this from Joey Beltram's Gameform, then into that cheeky bit from Thomas Banghalter on Roule

YouTube - Thomas Bangalter - What To Do (A3) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Z9MnNgoUcs)

What the **** you guys.
Sorry to say, but some tribalish tech sounds these days trump what's considered "Hard" now.

Somewhere along the way the lines between "minimal" and "hard" got blurred.
I hear nothing but sheer warmth, on what's considered "hard" these days.
Call it "Warm" or "Deep" even intelligent, because the dudes that made it truly are, but "Hard"...

Remember this was hard...

YouTube - Ben Long "In The Nick Of Time" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dmvykL5UOE)

That track is warm as **** and trumps whats out now and considered hard.

I'm not being a naysayer and hating on any names mentioned, noticed I pointed no one out, but I just think Hard Techno is abbrasive, exciting, rhythm soaked, and just out right knarly, I want to grin and say **** yeah when I hear it, not smoke a cigarrette outside the club, and go oh, man, the space between those kicks, that guy nailed it.

[blistanbul]

There's a few on there I would have to strongly disagree with. Hard Techno? Nah, slow and derivative, yes.

Virgil Enzinger- yes. One of my favorites. Interesting moody Techno.
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ah mate i am confused. on the other thread about dj ghost mix you were going on about how mediocre it was yet there it is:

DJ Ghost - Godfathers Of Techno Volume 1 (CD) at Discogs (http://www.discogs.com/DJ-Ghost-Godfathers-Of-Techno-Volume-1/release/655322)

track 12.:rurazz:

[gunjack]

who was it that said he had heard "recent stuff" from slovak crew? rumenige? loktibrada? olga+yozef???? haven't heard anything new from them since 2005 when the bottom dropped out of the spanish/slovak thing....

"techno" artists who ring my bell these days are tony wetworks, pat dsp, jay wong, luke creed, sinistra to name a few.... classics i alwasy gravitate back to would be golden age surgeon stuff, old PVC/antidandruff, jay denham and millsy of course....

here is one that has been with me since i was but a wee fuc ker:

YouTube - DJ Hell - Allerseelen (Jeff Mills Remix) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFhhAg3Mbwc)

LOVE the acid bit that seeps in at about 2:40

that was the original "HARD MINIMAL" sound fresh off the invention of minimal techno by rob hood...and where it all basically started for me nearly 15 years ago...



GJ

[DannyBlack]

ah mate i am confused. on the other thread about dj ghost mix you were going on about how mediocre it was yet there it is:

DJ Ghost - Godfathers Of Techno Volume 1 (CD) at Discogs (http://www.discogs.com/DJ-Ghost-Godfathers-Of-Techno-Volume-1/release/655322)

track 12.:rurazz:

er... what? Where in that quote did I mention DJ Ghost? Anyway, here's what I said about that Jumpstyle drivel you posted:


not a fan of this tbh. it's a bit.... well it's a bit... erm... yeah.

[Numeric]

here is one that has been with me since i was but a wee fuc ker:

YouTube - DJ Hell - Allerseelen (Jeff Mills Remix) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFhhAg3Mbwc)


now that is a classic track, still have it on vinyl although it's a bit knackered now, the dave clarke remix on other side is quality too, i always get them mixed up though

[blistanbul]

er... what? Where in that quote did I mention DJ Ghost? Anyway, here's what I said about that Jumpstyle drivel you posted:

what drivel dude?

danny you obviously didn't put two to two together or not reading my posts right. so who is really talking drivel?

i didn't post jumpstyle. if it is a jumpstyle then read the post. why does it contain one of your favourite techno artist? so you can't dismiss simply as jumpstyle or drivel can you?

you contradict yourself.

[DVNT]

Any links to hoth systems stuff mate?

hoth system - Tracks - SoundCloud (http://soundcloud.com/hoth-system)

[The Overfiend]

YouTube - robert armani - muzik man (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfHyuhlsOp0)

[gunjack]

ah mate i am confused. on the other thread about dj ghost mix you were going on about how mediocre it was yet there it is:

DJ Ghost - Godfathers Of Techno Volume 1 (CD) at Discogs (http://www.discogs.com/DJ-Ghost-Godfathers-Of-Techno-Volume-1/release/655322)

track 12.:rurazz:


somebody get this dude a valium. seriously blistanbul stop being such a f uking instigator.... you turn every bloody thread into a drama...

[gunjack]

tony wetworks, what was that last tune you sent me? kicked my ass brudda. cool synths, great drum work.... I WANT MORE!!! playing atechno set tomorrow send me some more of your shit!!! i am on skype all day homie.

[basslinejunkie]

who was it that said he had heard "recent stuff" from slovak crew? rumenige? loktibrada? olga+yozef???? haven't heard anything new from them since 2005 when the bottom dropped out of the spanish/slovak thing....

GJ

your not looking hard enough then mate! they are still releasing excellent music,most of them anyway

[DannyBlack]

Lars Klein.


Lars Klein - Lars Klein - Demon - SoundCloud (http://soundcloud.com/larsklein/lars-klein-demon)

[blistanbul]

somebody get this dude a valium. seriously blistanbul stop being such a f uking instigator.... you turn every bloody thread into a drama...al

not to be rude, but who was talking to you lad?

is your name danny?

stop looking for a rise.

[Woksaus]

your not looking hard enough then mate! they are still releasing excellent music,most of them anywayTheir remix of 'Radial - Smoking Kills' _O_

[ritaheed]

Lars Klein.


Lars Klein - Lars Klein - Demon - SoundCloud (http://soundcloud.com/larsklein/lars-klein-demon)

crazy tune :)

[DannyBlack]

al

not to be rude, but who was talking to you lad?

is your name danny?

stop looking for a rise.


Cool it man. GJ wasn't looking for a rise, he's keeping the peace. Now relax, lets get back on topic.

[blistanbul]

ok mate, i don't want to go over the same thing, but why is your favourite techno artist featured in a jumpstyle drivel?

please do explain that.

along with why green velvet, eric sneo and others are featured too.

[morbid]

Back on topic then

Sascha Muller never gets any ****ing credit....

YouTube - Sascha Müller - Schleichfahrt (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDVbBovZ_-8&feature=related)
YouTube - Sascha Müller - Destruction (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtQWvz5-9Xs&feature=related)

Beltram still knocks them out - only 23 seconds before this one does it for me!
YouTube - Joey Beltram - Dragon (Original Mix) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpzB1NLkcWo)

[teknorich]

I'd never heard of Sascha Muller, but those links you posted are sweet. Cheers for the heads up!

[DannyBlack]

ok mate, i don't want to go over the same thing, but why is your favourite techno artist featured in a jumpstyle drivel?

please do explain that.

along with why green velvet, eric sneo and others are featured too.

I was referring to the video you posted and not the link you posted in this thread. I didn't check that because the initial link you posted was quite frankly, shite.

Now, let it go and stop stirring shit. Thank you.

[DannyBlack]

Back on topic then

Sascha Muller never gets any ****ing credit....

YouTube - Sascha Müller - Schleichfahrt (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDVbBovZ_-8&feature=related)
YouTube - Sascha Müller - Destruction (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtQWvz5-9Xs&feature=related)

Beltram still knocks them out - only 23 seconds before this one does it for me!
YouTube - Joey Beltram - Dragon (Original Mix) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpzB1NLkcWo)

Cheers for the recommendation!!

Yeah and Beltrams stuff is still tough. Lovely to see.

[morbid]

He makes all sorts mate, ambient, acid, hard as ****

proper talented producer, well underrated and churns out the releases - check his discogs - 50+ releases in 2010!!!!

http://www.discogs.com/artist/Sascha+M%C3%BCller?anv=Sascha+Muller

[ritaheed]

Back on topic then

Sascha Muller never gets any ****ing credit....

YouTube - Sascha Müller - Schleichfahrt (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDVbBovZ_-8&feature=related)
YouTube - Sascha Müller - Destruction (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtQWvz5-9Xs&feature=related)

Beltram still knocks them out - only 23 seconds before this one does it for me!
YouTube - Joey Beltram - Dragon (Original Mix) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpzB1NLkcWo)

oooooft, ma kinda techno :) defo on the case with this guy!

[blistanbul]

I was referring to the video you posted and not the link you posted in this thread. I didn't check that because the initial link you posted was quite frankly, shite.

Now, let it go and stop stirring shit. Thank you.

i am not mate.

i didn't post the video.

secondly the second link which i posted had your fav artist.

so why is that jumpstyle?

here is the list:



1 Johannes Heil - Dejavu (Part 01)
2 Staffan Ehrlin - The Chapel
3 Michael Forzza - Reflection Of The Soul
4 Redhead - State Of Mind
5 Phantom (12) - Ghostmachine
6 Marco Bailey & Tom Hades - Kamaki
7 Ghostland (2) - Kranken Zentrale
8 Green Velvet - Temptation (Endure Mix)
9 Eric Sneo - Ghostbuster
10 DJ Ghost - Ghoststyle
11 Q & G - Give It To Me
12 Virgil Enzinger - Personal Enemy
13 Michel De Hey - Oil & Vinegare (DJ Preach Remix)
Remix - DJ Preach
14 Q-ic & Ghost - LSD
15 Mario Ranieri - Pimp Your Character

yeah very jumpstyle!

[ritaheed]

Sascha Müller - Schleichfahrt :D :D :D

now thats how techno should be made!!

cheers for the heads up morbid! ;)

[blistanbul]

I was referring to the video you posted and not the link you posted in this thread. I didn't check that because the initial link you posted was quite frankly, shite.




it is an ace mix, you don't know what you are talking. who makes you the ultimate music-taster?

by the way:

max walder and manu kenton on your arse:rubiggrin::

YouTube - Manu Kenton & Max Walder - Adrenaline (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fveitwOFaNQ)

[Izz]

Sascha Müller - Schleichfahrt :D :D :D

now thats how techno should be made!!

cheers for the heads up morbid! ;)

gotta second this!

[DannyBlack]

it is an ace mix, you don't know what you are talking. who makes you the ultimate music-taster?

by the way:

max walder and manu kenton on your arse:rubiggrin::

YouTube - Manu Kenton & Max Walder - Adrenaline (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fveitwOFaNQ)


I have an old Manu Kenton mix from a few years back. I used to love that mix. I listened to it on the way into work to prep me for listening to people whine about their crappy Internet Connections.

The link in your original post was- I dunno, just not to my taste. Doesn't make me the ultimate music taster at all.

Anyway, can we move on please?

[gunjack]

your not looking hard enough then mate! they are still releasing excellent music,most of them anyway


homie, olga+yozef = loktibrada +rumenige = toki and dalo from .sk, link me to new stuff by them and i will be a happy camper! i havent heard anything since the jaxx days....

[blistanbul]

I have an old Manu Kenton mix from a few years back. I used to love that mix. I listened to it on the way into work to prep me for listening to people whine about their crappy Internet Connections.

The link in your original post was- I dunno, just not to my taste. Doesn't make me the ultimate music taster at all.

Anyway, can we move on please?

sorted.

[The Overfiend]

YouTube - Slobodan - Future Dance E.P. (B1) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aub12yDffkk)
YouTube - The Divide - Drop Sector (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubfXYPQvhD8)
YouTube - Glenn Wilson - Enemies (Alexander Kowalski remix) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHsZZ7NnvjA)

Hey guys, hard techno.
You remember, this stuff...

[The Overfiend]

YouTube - DJ Boss - Kombucha (B1) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLsqOK-Z1uI)

**** Yo Couch!!!!

[Elvio Neto]

YouTube - The Divide - Drop Sector (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubfXYPQvhD8)


brutal stuff

[tekara]

I've been really feeling some of Audio Injection's stuff lately

[blistanbul]

i think i have the best song.

man i was so knackered last night.:ruretard:

[The Overfiend]

YouTube - Takaaki Itoh - We Are The Attack (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-87UCZNYWlY)

This was and is still blinding

[ritaheed]

YouTube - Marco Cannata - Blood Is Heavier Then Water (The Advent remix) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIIDg8by9yw)

took me ages to find this after listining to dj rush's set from 99 - quality techno again - love the dark vocal type sound :D

[ritaheed]

YouTube - Visco Space - Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2CVnMy2JBc)

this has went down well when ive banged this bad boy out ;)

love when the hats come in!!!! :D

[ritaheed]

so tbh anyone who's calling stuff hard techno that isnt like the stuff above needs to have a wee rethink ;)

[qUE]

YouTube - Takaaki Itoh - We Are The Attack (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-87UCZNYWlY)

This was and is still blinding

There's a Takaaki set from the mid 200x floating around somewhere and it's non-stop this, totally brilliant I only wish I could've been there, the building probably collapsed after it's so furious.

[DVNT]

Note to self. Go through this thread at work and make big list of sh*t to buy.

[The Overfiend]

YouTube - DJ Boss - Banger (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_55sRAr70sI)
YouTube - Slobodan - Ch1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vdhDd2AxR4)

YouTube - Hardcell-Ground Handoff (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTMMFs0Vkbw)
With Congas, harder than most now...

[MITA]

homie, olga+yozef = loktibrada +rumenige = toki and dalo from .sk, link me to new stuff by them and i will be a happy camper! i havent heard anything since the jaxx days....

this the last from dec 2009, and is top noch imo
Loktibrada - Remix Radial - Rybakk - Numb - Numb13 (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=11&ved=0CBEQFjAAOAo&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nuloop.com%2Fen%2Fmp3%2Fdetai l%2F21872%2Floktibrada_rybakk.html&rct=j&q=numb13%20loktibrada&ei=g43rTNHIL4Xssgal5t2HDw&usg=AFQjCNFbkyIRxvFr952rwCq_2ffQ_fynSg&cad=rja)

[gunjack]

damn that tune kinda sucks compared to older stuff :(

[MITA]

Damned you be the future!!!

[teknorich]

damn that tune kinda sucks compared to older stuff :(

+1

[Loop]

-1 Very nice stuff.

See problem here is people want what they want, most of the time they want the shit they heard when they were on their techno honeymoon, and if todays producers don't want to write over compressed, dirty, aggressive music then it sucks? This why your hard techno music is stagnant and the events total bad tempered sausage festivals. Most people either got old, tired, too ****ed up or moved on.
Come on someone post up some NEW hard techno like those Slovaks and the Tonal Path shit, theres nothing wrong imho with a bit of warmth and tension.

[gunjack]

mate i didn't expect dalo to be making the same music for the last 5 years that he maid before, but i also didnt expect cheesey prog melodies and boring 4x4 drums either. that tune sucked.

[teknorich]

I do like a lot of modern Techno, but I also don't see it as being hard. That's the key word here - HARD. It is definitely Techno, and it is very nicely produced at that, but it isn't hard.

My Dad listens to Rhythm & Blues. He has always loved Blues; it is the music he really feels in his blood. So when he sees on TV that nowadays R&B means Destiny's Child, rather than Robert Johnson et al, do you think he should just say "Yeah, you're right, this is R&B. This is what R&B is these days, so I will blindly accept it because I am told that this is R&B, so it must be"? NO WAY! He still listens to the music he always loved, even if no fcker produces it any more, and he still knows that is the real R&B. He's not gonna accept some lightweight poppy bullsh*t as being R&B, cos he knows it is not.

You listen to Destiny's Child's music, and you can easily see it isn't real R&B. The B stands for Blues, and I don't hear ANY blues in their songs. It's all about how sexy they are, how independent and strong they are etc etc ad nauseum. So, if ya got no blues, how can you be R&B = Rhythm and Blues? Just like a lot of this music is techno but it isn't hard, so how can it be Hard Techno?!

Anyways, I think we are seeing a slow resurgence of real harder Techno, with labels like "We like it hard" springing up (and planning a new night at Tresor) and new releases coming out which, instead of pandering to the whole "minimal masquerading as techno" thing which has been going on for the last few years, are actually a genuine harder techno sound; such as the new Machine Code release from Dean Rodell. I think it's gonna be a while before we see a lot of artists making the real harder sounds again, but it is happening slowly, so watch this space...

[ritaheed]

I do like a lot of modern Techno, but I also don't see it as being hard. That's the key word here - HARD. It is definitely Techno, and it is very nicely produced at that, but it isn't hard.

My Dad listens to Rhythm & Blues. He has always loved Blues; it is the music he really feels in his blood. So when he sees on TV that nowadays R&B means Destiny's Child, rather than Robert Johnson et al, do you think he should just say "Yeah, you're right, this is R&B. This is what R&B is these days, so I will blindly accept it because I am told that this is R&B, so it must be"? NO WAY! He still listens to the music he always loved, even if no fcker produces it any more, and he still knows that is the real R&B. He's not gonna accept some lightweight poppy bullsh*t as being R&B, cos he knows it is not.

You listen to Destiny's Child's music, and you can easily see it isn't real R&B. The B stands for Blues, and I don't hear ANY blues in their songs. It's all about how sexy they are, how independent and strong they are etc etc ad nauseum. So, if ya got no blues, how can you be R&B = Rhythm and Blues? Just like a lot of this music is techno but it isn't hard, so how can it be Hard Techno?!

Anyways, I think we are seeing a slow resurgence of real harder Techno, with labels like "We like it hard" springing up (and planning a new night at Tresor) and new releases coming out which, instead of pandering to the whole "minimal masquerading as techno" thing which has been going on for the last few years, are actually a genuine harder techno sound; such as the new Machine Code release from Dean Rodell. I think it's gonna be a while before we see a lot of artists making the real harder sounds again, but it is happening slowly, so watch this space...

nicely put mate :)

[The Overfiend]

Definitely well put bro.

YouTube - Wet Musik - Will e Tell & Simon Digby Pt 5 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miBFI1xYLEY)

[The Overfiend]

-1 Very nice stuff.

See problem here is people want what they want, most of the time they want the shit they heard when they were on their techno honeymoon, and if todays producers don't want to write over compressed, dirty, aggressive music then it sucks? This why your hard techno music is stagnant and the events total bad tempered sausage festivals. Most people either got old, tired, too ****ed up or moved on.
Come on someone post up some NEW hard techno like those Slovaks and the Tonal Path shit, theres nothing wrong imho with a bit of warmth and tension.

Nothing wrong with the stuff you mentioned bro.
Fair play to your comment as well man.
but I will say warmth and tension..... and hard :)

YouTube - Surgeon - Atol ( 1995 ) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmCmW1EYuo0)

[MITA]

STOP.
and listen
Subsequent Records At Juno Download (http://www.junodownload.com/labels/Subsequent/releases/)

[Numeric]

YouTube - Surgeon - Atol ( 1995 ) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmCmW1EYuo0)

i still have that record too, lovely track, and magneze is a true classic

there's loads of quality techno around like that at the moment though

[The Overfiend]

but I will say warmth and tension..... and hard :)

YouTube - Andrei Morant - Turn Down [Logan Square EP - A1] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBqjy3FWHrQ)

[The Overfiend]

Hey, ummm

YouTube - R.N.D. Technologies - Ultrafilter(50% Filtered Mix)(Gaetek Remix) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8k8zEjpd-g)

[The Overfiend]

YouTube - Ben Sims vs. Deetron - Hardgroove 003.5 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YNPQ-tQpbM)

[The Overfiend]

YouTube - Ben Sims - Storm (DJ Shufflemaster Remix) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEMVTyNmhHk)

Hard
and oh shit, congas!
The Devil!!!

[qUE]

Well since we've gone into naming old tracks, one of my favourites has to be Robert Armani - Destruction on the Spectacular album. Aparently it's rare, but I expect you can pick it up on one of the vinyl trading sites (not advertising anything :)

Can't find it on 'tube though :/

[qUE]

YouTube - TOBIAS SCHMIDT - TAKE THATT (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeTvSrr0mLE)

Hah and this, which I've played out way too much :)

[qUE]

Aparently this is Moby!?! If it is, WTF.

Not necassarily one of my favourites, but banging all the same.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puc8a6qAlCg
YouTube - Moby/Voodoo Child Horses part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ouQX4rWPB4)

[qUE]

This era of Beltram as JB3 was pretty solid :)

YouTube - Joey Beltram - Game Form (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ics4ehmR4Pk)

[ritaheed]

STOP.
and listen
Subsequent Records At Juno Download (http://www.junodownload.com/labels/Subsequent/releases/)





banging label!! need more labels like this

[teknorich]

banging label!! need more labels like this

Definitely! Good post by Mita there. This label is sounding good to me. It was formed within the last year, so hopefully this is another sign of the harder techno resurgence!

SUBSEQUENT RECORDS - ARGENTINA - CHILE (http://www.subsequent.com.ar/)

[qUE]

YouTube - the advent runners (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byOjYm3fq-U)

Advent when it was good IMHO.

[djfilthmonger]

YouTube - DJ Rush - Japan Wargames (Pounding Grooves Remix) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=999alBOe0uw)
That is all!

[DVNT]

Somatic Responses do hard techno
PENCWNWC EP | Somatic Responses (http://somaticresponses.bandcamp.com/album/pencwnwc-ep)

[The Overfiend]

YouTube - Strobe - Human Animal (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NehAkT1tm2o)

[ritaheed]

YouTube - Strobe - Human Animal (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NehAkT1tm2o)

quality :)

[MITA]

YouTube - Concrete Djz - Slow Assembly (Protect Records Digital 002) 2010 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONRTpm9881M)

YouTube - Armatura Bonus 020 D - NOT HARD TECHNO AT ALL (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdCmCGR-FZE)

some plug from me.
obviously not hard. :dontgothere:

[JamieBall]

Mr EG, have you not just bungled this entire topic by flinging a bunch of artists into the pan who are definitely NOT hard techno ?

Virgil Enzinger
Luis Ruiz
Ritzi Lee
Reeko
Andreas Kremer
Oscar Mulero
Vegim
Oinks
Glenn Wilson
Mattias Friedel
Ryuji Takauchi
Mike Humphries
Machine Code
S-Tek
Andreas Florin
A Paul
Patrick DSP
Brad Lee
Concrete DJz

I'm not saying a lot of these people don't make good music, it's just that they certainly don't make hard techno (certainly nowadays, anyhow)

This topic is stupid.

[eppertheleper]

It's just been a "wrong side of the bed" kinda month, huh?

[The Overfiend]

YouTube - Concrete Djz - Slow Assembly (Protect Records Digital 002) 2010 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONRTpm9881M)

YouTube - Armatura Bonus 020 D - NOT HARD TECHNO AT ALL (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdCmCGR-FZE)

some plug from me.
obviously not hard. :dontgothere:

I don't think I recall anyone saying the Concrete's didn't make Hard Techno?

[ritaheed]

It's just been a "wrong side of the bed" kinda month, huh?

tbh mate he has got a point about that list, some boyo's on it are making tough/hard sounds but the majority aint no were near hard techno

[MITA]

I don't think I recall anyone saying the Concrete's didn't make Hard Techno?

Just pointing out to fresh harder releases/labels.

[Patrick DSP]

big up concrete's and everyone doing what they love to do. no matter however you want to label it.

[ritaheed]

big up concrete's and everyone doing what they love to do. no matter however you want to label it.

thats totally right at the end of the day, esp if your doing it because you love to do that sound..

a just like the hard shit and basically in search for a whole lot more :)

[The Overfiend]

Wetworks - Wetworks - Romance On The River Styx (Live PA) on SoundCloud - Create, record and share your sounds for free (http://soundcloud.com/wetworks/wetworks-romance-on-the-river-styx)

2010 Live Pa by yours truly, proper & hard.

[teknorich]

Woah! I remember having that Human Animal track on a mix tape years ago, I think a carl Cox set, and I loved it but never knew what the track was. Nice one!!!

[The Overfiend]

YouTube - Mixhell - Boom Da (Crookers Remix) - Electro choc - ( The ballad of gay Tony ) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uVLSlEfSAM)

Oh no! Crookers!
Well this track is harder than some of the bullshit people plug these days

[clubsynthetic]

no mention of quick and smart then?

[ritaheed]

quick and smart is banging - proper quality producer. Propa hard jacked up wonked up shizz :)

[stjohn]

Mr EG, have you not just bungled this entire topic by flinging a bunch of artists into the pan who are definitely NOT hard techno ?

Virgil Enzinger
Luis Ruiz
Ritzi Lee
Reeko
Andreas Kremer
Oscar Mulero
Vegim
Oinks
Glenn Wilson
Mattias Friedel
Ryuji Takauchi
Mike Humphries
Machine Code
S-Tek
Andreas Florin
A Paul
Patrick DSP
Brad Lee
Concrete DJz

I'm not saying a lot of these people don't make good music, it's just that they certainly don't make hard techno (certainly nowadays, anyhow)

This topic is stupid.

hmm yea i kinda thought the same. your standard 'heyy dont we all love techno' thread that shows up every now and again. which eventually turns into a wash of random artists. anyway Makaton deserves to be up there somewhere. moving forward, punk attitude, quality over quantity.

[Woksaus]

quick and smart is banging - proper quality producer. Propa hard jacked up wonked up shizz :)Too bad we will never again see releases from him :(

[DannyBlack]

Indeed. RIP.

[qUE]

Since the thread is being plugged.

My track from our first release on vinyl and some video;

YouTube - HARD TECHNO DJ VINYL - b08032010 - qUE (invertedlightsource.com) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5KBeJqR0u8)

[qUE]

I was thinking this track when I said Max Walder earlier in the thread :)

YouTube - Max Walder And Manu Kenton - Norton (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwHRIlsK-kc)

seem like there's a few similarly disjointed tracks like this one. I only mentioned Max Walder because it seems Manu Kenton's solo stuff hasn't got the same heavyness to it, so I can only assume it's Mr Walder's contribution to the sound that's more in line with what I personally like.

[MITA]

Full EP, with a remix from DJ OGI coming December 15th.

Concrete Djz - Force One [Subsequent 016] on SoundCloud - Create, record and share your sounds for free (http://soundcloud.com/concrete-djz/force-one)

[BloodStar]

Stupid thread, tbh.

[teknorich]

Why?

[MITA]

progression in the sound, a guide to (hard) tech. :runinja:
past ,present, future. :dontgothere:

YouTube - Random Logic - Kial 03 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ev2AP5nyno) :yup:

YouTube - Chris Liebing - Bossi (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJJrIibt3zM) :drive:

YouTube - Patrik Skoog - Returning (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnTAm0ch8Ik) :icon16:

YouTube - Glenn Wilson - Assassins (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ankY_-KSUA) :wank:



:ruwink:

[The Overfiend]

Stupid thread, tbh.

Nobody asked you, if you don't like it find another thread...
So tired of people's negativity on a subject that others are obviously so passionate about.

[qUE]

Nobody asked you, if you don't like it find another thread...
So tired of people's negativity on a subject that others are obviously so passionate about.

Wasn't worth rising to IMHO ;)

Now everyone sing with me for Bloodstar;

# Mr Troll get back under that bridge, Mr Troll go back from whence you came, Your negative comments are always the same, unneeded, pitiful and a shame.

[Numeric]

i don't think Bloodstar was trolling tbf, just expressing an opinion

tbh i think this thread is a bit ridiculous too, people arguing over what is hard techno and what isn't is tedious

however, saying the likes of oscar mulero and ritzi lee aren't hard is quite simply :ruretard:

[MITA]

peoples it does not matter. the thread name is perhaps wrong.
but we can post , educate others, and find new stuff that one recommends.

that cannot be stupid.

[teknorich]

i don't think Bloodstar was trolling tbf, just expressing an opinion

tbh i think this thread is a bit ridiculous too, people arguing over what is hard techno and what isn't is tedious

however, saying the likes of oscar mulero and ritzi lee aren't hard is quite simply :ruretard:

Dude, you say discussing what is/isn't hard techno is tedious, but then do exactly that in your next comment, lol!

I agree with Mita; people posting up links for tracks and artists, and recommending things to each other isn't stupid at all, and I personally have found some great new stuff through this thread, so all good!

[MITA]

heres what Mr. EG had to say recently on this subject :)

http://www.edit-tehno.org/Mark_EG_Live_EDIT-TEHNO_-_19.11.2010.mp3

YouTube - Mark Eg @ Club X-Lagum (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MbJLIq2EO8)

[The Overfiend]

I think the name of the thread is perfect.
The BOA Guide to Real Hard Techno.

With so many different personalities and people here, we were bound to get the ball rolling and kick off a discussion as to what defines or doesn't.
I think it's healthy to discuss and even disagree at times.
I don't think it's healthy to criticise people who are passionate about their stances. Healthy discussion and brainstorming never hurts. In fact this thread has just about inspired me to start a new label strictly for Hard Techno.

[qUE]

I think the name of the thread is perfect.
The BOA Guide to Real Hard Techno.

With so many different personalities and people here, we were bound to get the ball rolling and kick off a discussion as to what defines or doesn't.
I think it's healthy to discuss and even disagree at times.
I don't think it's healthy to criticise people who are passionate about their stances. Healthy discussion and brainstorming never hurts. In fact this thread has just about inspired me to start a new label strictly for Hard Techno.

Good news! ;)

[teknorich]

... this thread has just about inspired me to start a new label strictly for Hard Techno.

Excellent!

[The Overfiend]

YouTube - WJ Henze - Direct Voice Input (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5GnI344KX0)

[MITA]

Check these >> Expired At Juno Download (http://www.junodownload.com/labels/Expired/releases/)

[DannyBlack]

has just about inspired me to start a new label strictly for Hard Techno.



DO IT!!!! :D

[TiagoTechnoHead]

I do like a lot of modern Techno, but I also don't see it as being hard. That's the key word here - HARD. It is definitely Techno, and it is very nicely produced at that, but it isn't hard.

My Dad listens to Rhythm & Blues. He has always loved Blues; it is the music he really feels in his blood. So when he sees on TV that nowadays R&B means Destiny's Child, rather than Robert Johnson et al, do you think he should just say "Yeah, you're right, this is R&B. This is what R&B is these days, so I will blindly accept it because I am told that this is R&B, so it must be"? NO WAY! He still listens to the music he always loved, even if no fcker produces it any more, and he still knows that is the real R&B. He's not gonna accept some lightweight poppy bullsh*t as being R&B, cos he knows it is not.

You listen to Destiny's Child's music, and you can easily see it isn't real R&B. The B stands for Blues, and I don't hear ANY blues in their songs. It's all about how sexy they are, how independent and strong they are etc etc ad nauseum. So, if ya got no blues, how can you be R&B = Rhythm and Blues? Just like a lot of this music is techno but it isn't hard, so how can it be Hard Techno?!

Anyways, I think we are seeing a slow resurgence of real harder Techno, with labels like "We like it hard" springing up (and planning a new night at Tresor) and new releases coming out which, instead of pandering to the whole "minimal masquerading as techno" thing which has been going on for the last few years, are actually a genuine harder techno sound; such as the new Machine Code release from Dean Rodell. I think it's gonna be a while before we see a lot of artists making the real harder sounds again, but it is happening slowly, so watch this space...

Yeahhh ..
Good point!

[ritaheed]

YouTube - WJ Henze - Direct Voice Input (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5GnI344KX0)

quality

[ritaheed]

Since the thread is being plugged.

My track from our first release on vinyl and some video;

YouTube - HARD TECHNO DJ VINYL - b08032010 - qUE (invertedlightsource.com) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5KBeJqR0u8)

fcuking quality mate!

[qUE]

fcuking quality mate!

Cheers!

It's been a bit of a love hate relationship with the track being pressed on our first vinyl. Hopefully I'll get to press more, although it's quite an outlay to press vinyl. I'm still greatful I had the chance to :)

[The Overfiend]

That's a dope track.
Nice n tracky

[The Overfiend]

Bring back Dean Cole and some tracky as hell USER records :)

YouTube - DEAN COLE - Dancefloor (From Beyond EP [Corrosion Records] ) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upGQuk7_7co)

[BloodStar]

Stupid thread, tbh.

Why?

Nobody asked you, if you don't like it find another thread...
So tired of people's negativity on a subject that others are obviously so passionate about.

Wasn't worth rising to IMHO. ;)Now everyone sing with me for Bloodstar;
# Mr Troll get back under that bridge, Mr Troll go back from whence you came, Your negative comments are always the same, unneeded, pitiful and a shame.

Hahaha. Didn't want to reply to you first, but i will.

My post was ONLY my personal opinion. If mod of this place thinks it's so offensive and unpolite, then he can send me PM, delete the post or whatever, that is easy. As it didn't happen no needs to be so dramatic.

[teknorich]

If you are just going to say "Stupid thread" then don't join in on a discussion thread! If you think it it stupid, that's fine, but at least explain why. Otherwise you are not discussing, just being negative, and that is pointless.

[BloodStar]

thread turned into "Youtube propa techno thread" copy, irrelevant to the topic really quickly.
It ended up exactly as i was expecting, people putting the names out of the hat, put there some friends, some of their works etc. Many artists putted here are not producing anymore, some of them still producing, but not doing techno at all. many artists doing conga bonga, i don't think we can call hard techno.
now on page 7, did we move somewhere on the topic?
then yeah stupid thread if you ask me again.

[qUE]

thread turned into "Youtube propa techno thread" copy, irrelevant to the topic really quickly.
It ended up exactly as i was expecting, people putting the names out of the hat, put there some friends, some of their works etc. Many artists putted here are not producing anymore, some of them still producing, but not doing techno at all. many artists doing conga bonga, i don't think we can call hard techno.
now on page 7, did we move somewhere on the topic?
then yeah stupid thread if you ask me again.

ah k, that's a bit clearer. I personally thought this thead was aimed at if someone came along without a clear understanding of what hard techno is and still thinking scooter make the best hard techno evar.

The stuff being posted from Youtube is pretty much the only way we can put examples of what people here view as hard techno, it's not a competition to show who knows what hard techno is and what hard techno isn't, because as I found in many cases it's really hard to put you finger on a genre.

And also as I've come to realise from this thread, I personally like that solid chicago stuff, but like most other people I've got an eclectic record collection and there's stuff I would of thought as not hard enough to play in a hard set, but I know now that it is because it's still driving and progressive and I've got the views of others to at least go by as a guide.

As for posting our own stuff, well you've just said a very good reason for that, the artists that did make stonking hard techno tunes don't anymore, they've seen the money and have followed that (I'm not a believer of the old excuse "we're searching for a new sound"). Where it's left a hoard of clubbers who have a history of getting mashed to 10+KW PA at some local asylum rinsing out the most abstract tribalistic beats till 8am. It's still frowned apon by a huge section of modern society in the UK, yet it's so similar to what the tribes slowly being wiped out by modern society do to celebrate their existance. I get more and more baffled by what is classed as progress.

I'll keep enjoying and producing stuff in this specific genre for a very long time, whilst everyone else changes taste and moves to other things. The combination of raw analog sound and intelligent sequencing you just don't hear in many other forms of music imho.

[Mattias_Fridell]

As for posting our own stuff, well you've just said a very good reason for that, the artists that did make stonking hard techno tunes don't anymore, they've seen the money and have followed that (I'm not a believer of the old excuse "we're searching for a new sound").

That's the minimal guys you're speaking of, the rest of us who changed direction done it for one reason: We got bored of our old sound, even in its refined form.

[markandrew]

That's the minimal guys you're speaking of, the rest of us who changed direction done it for one reason: We got bored of our old sound, even in its refined form.

if you make hard techno year after year your gonna get the itch to make some thing different at some point nothing wrong with that i would be bored shitless playin hard techno day in day out for the rest of me life same with house techno trance mininal breakbeat jungle you can always go back to it when you ready with a clear head an produce great tunes with a new edge

[DannyBlack]

Ah yeah. You know what- as much as we might not like what people are doing- they do. And thats the main thing.

To each their own. and if it comes to a point where you can't listen to someone any more- don't. Make your own beats.

[Mattias_Fridell]

if you make hard techno year after year your gonna get the itch to make some thing different at some point nothing wrong with that i would be bored shitless playin hard techno day in day out for the rest of me life same with house techno trance mininal breakbeat jungle you can always go back to it when you ready with a clear head an produce great tunes with a new edge

Right, that's my feeling exactly. I started to produce in the 90s, released my stuff early 2000 up till now and for over a decade I've done "hard" techno but also much other music but I felt I came to the point I'm fed up with it. My coming stuff will still be "hard" on some release but with a totally different direction.

I'm much more interested in tone, mood, dirt, emptiness, subtle movements and experimental thinking now, all of those things I rejected in much of my techno production before. Respect to those who can stay with what they've always done (even if it really boring from a production point of view) but thats just nothing for me.

[MITA]

It's called progression and developing of the style?!

[MITA]

Check this also if any of you dont know this label, they release what we talk about here , but not just that, a combo of styles..

TMMR At Juno Download (http://www.junodownload.com/labels/TMMR/releases/)

[qUE]

Right, that's my feeling exactly. I started to produce in the 90s, released my stuff early 2000 up till now and for over a decade I've done "hard" techno but also much other music but I felt I came to the point I'm fed up with it. My coming stuff will still be "hard" on some release but with a totally different direction.

I'm much more interested in tone, mood, dirt, emptiness, subtle movements and experimental thinking now, all of those things I rejected in much of my techno production before. Respect to those who can stay with what they've always done (even if it really boring from a production point of view) but thats just nothing for me.

Yeah, the emotiveness, that's music theory. I find if the sequence and tweaking are done live, the emotion is pretty much put in there as standard. I've personally always been into technical intricacies and instability, hopefully aiming to let the machines add their own character, I'm a fair way there, still quite a bit of R&D to do though.

[DannyBlack]

Check this also if any of you dont know this label, they release what we talk about here , but not just that, a combo of styles..

TMMR At Juno Download (http://www.junodownload.com/labels/TMMR/releases/)

Celdonia EP by Victor Arias on MP3 and WAV at Juno Download (http://www.junodownload.com/products/celdonia-ep/1298281-02/)

heard that one before. Not really my cuppa tbh.

[DannyBlack]

The Vegim remix off this is pretty savage.

My Feeling EP (The Remixes) by Victor Arias on MP3 and WAV at Juno Download (http://www.junodownload.com/products/my-feeling-ep-the-remixes/1442568-02/)

[The Overfiend]

Hey blood... long story short, I'm not even going to go back and forth with you, because reality is this is the internet and it's irrelevant at the end of the day. We're all here expressing our opinions. Everyone who posts in this thread has validity and a lot of experience in the subject. From Mark to Mattias, Concrete's and Que. There's a good deal of positive coming out of the thread, from projects, to discussion, to links to what each person is diggin', to be honest, that's pretty effective and positive. Should a new member come to this thread, I'd say they're bound to learn something. So I'm sorry you feel a certain negative vibe from it all and think it's corny, but I think this is a contributive thread to the community and this forum as a whole.

In addition I'm proud of the members around here who responded to you with content and intelligence, really impressed by how this place has matured, no 3 page fights and what not.

[Mattias_Fridell]

Yeah, the emotiveness, that's music theory. I find if the sequence and tweaking are done live, the emotion is pretty much put in there as standard. I've personally always been into technical intricacies and instability, hopefully aiming to let the machines add their own character, I'm a fair way there, still quite a bit of R&D to do though.

You think much like me I can hear. I'm old school when it comes to production, I like to record and tweak everything live (though it takes layer recordings at times obviously) and like to program with step sequencing & pattern based writing just like how everything started. I'm not into drawing lines in Cubase to make music, I find its killing my inspiration and ideas pretty quick for example.

As my mate MITA says, TMMR is a good label and combines a bit of everything, theres some real solid releases on there.

The Overfiend; always great wisdom coming from you.

[The Overfiend]

Long live!

The Black Hearts Motorcycle Club

[qUE]

Always loved the sound of Subvoice's pressings, Youtube doesn't do it justice but this is a good track all the same.

YouTube - DJ Shufflemaster - Freestyle Traxx 2 (Harlem Shuffle) A1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGThaI1fs_E)

[qUE]

Original of this and the Lost Recordings #1 album it's on is still one of the best things Steve Bicknell ever did IMHO. Bar that rather menacing thing he did on the B side of a Drum Club vinyl :)

YouTube - Steve Bicknell-Why? +For Whom? Redefined (original) B2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvulUdRh4TY)

[qUE]

Does Rush still make stuff like this?? Do want.

YouTube - DJ Rush - Groovy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZhthkIE8mc)

[teknorich]

Rush has such a distinctive sound; really got his own character and vibe. Definitely appreciate! Slightly insane vocals sometimes, but the percussion is just so tight and heavy. Can't help but grin on the dancefloor! :rubiggrin:

[ethno]

Anyone like Logotech at all? He's kind of an up and comer and similar to Virgil Enzinger but I like some of his stuff here/there.

[qUE]

Label? Cus' christ I have more web presence than they do and that's saying something because of my artist/DJ name!

[The Overfiend]

YouTube - Steve Bicknell - How Can We Know (Life Definition) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iu5omuXUXcI)
YouTube - Robert Natus - Grooverider - [PRRUK 046 - B2] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gghd8CgLtm0)

[ritaheed]

YouTube - Steve Bicknell - How Can We Know (Life Definition) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iu5omuXUXcI)
YouTube - Robert Natus - Grooverider - [PRRUK 046 - B2] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gghd8CgLtm0)

rocking!!

[qUE]

Rush has such a distinctive sound; really got his own character and vibe. Definitely appreciate! Slightly insane vocals sometimes, but the percussion is just so tight and heavy. Can't help but grin on the dancefloor! :rubiggrin:

Yeah, but I can't help but see Rush as a Schranz version of Green Velvet. Was there some kind of movement in the Techno scene to start narrating over Techno? It's fine for a couple of tunes, but surely the whole point of Techno is the rhythm? Or are we talking Mr. Motivator here now :D

[qUE]

On the plus side I can't see any problem with releasing Hard Techno fitness videos. Although, I can't see them selling other than for cult status ;)

[The Overfiend]

Rush a schranz version of Velvet?
Rush has been talking over his tracks since the early 90's dance mania records.
Him and Velvet are mates and have recorded together on quite a few Cajuals & Reliefs, just saying...

[BRADLEE]

I would say that I do sometimes still make hard techno, but tbh I make a lot of different kinds of music.

[ritaheed]

New hard techno from me :)

Ritalin - Something From Nothing by Ritalin on SoundCloud - Create, record and share your sounds for free (http://soundcloud.com/ritalin-techno/ritalin-something-from-nothing)

[qUE]

New hard techno from me :)

Ritalin - Something From Nothing by Ritalin on SoundCloud - Create, record and share your sounds for free (http://soundcloud.com/ritalin-techno/ritalin-something-from-nothing)

Nice :)

[ritaheed]

Nice :)

cheers dude

you on soundcloud?

[qUE]

cheers dude

you on soundcloud?

Nope not on Soundcloud, did have stuff up on Myspace but got really pissed off with them breaking/bloating the website code, it seriously sucks now, so I left.

Tbh, I have my own webserver, so I should really upload stuff to that, it's just getting time atm. I've got a few system projects on the go which are taking up my time :/