Techno vs Drum and Bass

[anx]

yes i know, they are like apples and oranges...right?

How many of you techno people respect drum and bass?

but i was having a discussion with some bloke who really knows what he is talking about, and it kind of made me think that maybe they actually are not that different in a sense.

I mean, if you look at it...they are both based on percussion, samples, loops and basslines, got me to thinking that techno is probably the closest straight beat genre to drum and bass (other than hardcore right...but not many people can tolerate that)

in my city, alot of music is mashed up on the same stage in a single night, and the only straight beat genre that seemed to actually work with DnB is techno.

I cant picture really any other straight beat genre opening or closing for a drum and bass act than techno....house doesnt sound right, trance definatly not, psytrance god forbid...you get the picture...

A friend of mine, a DnB dj, i find that we have the same views on other genres, its just that he likes his beats really really fast and broken, and i like them slower and not so broken...

the reason i am posting this really is just to see what kind of respect DnB gets in the techno community, as they are really 2 different scenes, personally i love good drum and bass, as long as it is not cheesy simple stuff.

have any of you producers out there experimented with making drum and bass?

i'd like to hear some DnB with a heavy techno influence....

[professor]

I tried once to make DnB. came out sounding like break-beat techno at 80bpm with snares and hats going nuts. pretty aweful stuff...

[MangaFish]

i've often though that dnb and techno arent too dislimular. (i've had to draw upon these simularities when explaining the music i like to townies in essex )

just a side note though: imo alot of the best techno tracks written havent been that percursive

[Traxx]

i love techno, i buy it & i play it but over the last 2 years ive found myself really getting into my d&b.....so much so in fact that this year, 70% of the club nights that ive been to have been d&b......so d&b is getting a big thumbs up from me...i love it...

[basslinejunkie]

i've often though that dnb and techno arent too dislimular. (i've had to draw upon these simularities when explaining the music i like to townies in essex )

just a side note though: imo alot of the best techno tracks written havent been that percursive

i disagre with that,the key to virtually all the best techno is excellent percusssion in them in my view.

[romelpotter]

i think dnb is great some of the old hardcore influences rearly shine through in the rougher jungle type of stuff, as a dj i play mainly techno, but at home and maybe over the next few months i might diverge into dnb a little. trouble is its hard enough to become a known dj in one style least of all conflicting styles such as dnb and techno. but as a style of music, i love it :lol:

[MangaFish]

i've often though that dnb and techno arent too dislimular. (i've had to draw upon these simularities when explaining the music i like to townies in essex )

just a side note though: imo alot of the best techno tracks written havent been that percursive

i disagre with that,the key to virtually all the best techno is excellent percusssion in them in my view.

good point for a new topic

[scotttechfunk]

I absolutely love D&B, like techno it's one of them scenes that even though the majors try and infiltrate and commercialise, there's a hardcore there that will shine through. I've bought loads of D&B vinyl lately purely on the quality of the music, ram raiders, pendulum etc... I mean, if the music's got a bit of soul I'm there. Yeah D&B after underground hip hop is up there on my list.

[jonnyspeed]

fight fight fight. I bet techno would only just win.

Jungle from arount 1990/91 - the labello blanco stuff and ray keith were just revolutionary. The up-tempo ragga hip-hop blistered along at speeds uphead before and the compression on the basslines were just mind blowing even by Dub standards.

The jazz-step end of drum & bass in 96/97 was a big thing. Goldie and LTJ Bukem entered mainstream culture and in 98/99 Ronnie Size brought everybody 'live' break based trip-hop. Thank god! atleast it released Abba for people with limited interest in music.

Ray Keith is still going and with Ed Rush and Mampi Swift, are the master of the dark TechStep. Highly recommend getting a copy of Ray Keith Presents Dark Soldier or Twisted Individual.

Its all much less formulaic than hard dance and hard trance, imo (no flame intended).

Techno is making key stides the other way into UK Garage with the fusion of grimey techno with urban underground house - i'd advise anybody to check out the 3xEP MarkOne/Plasticman/Slaughter Mob - called "Grime" on Rephlex.

[Col]

i have a lot of respect for D&B, and i enjoy listening to it from time to time. shake that motherfu*ing ass!

[dirty_bass]

MAn I love a bit of REALLY dark evil drum and bass with nasty B-Lines.
Love it.

[massplanck]

I try to sit half way between to the two styles and every other style for that matter.

I sorta think that should be the way for everyone but...

[subsonic]

i love dnb its my first love to be honest ltj bukem baby love it i all so like the jump up style of mickey finn nicky blackmarket
and the jazzy dark soundz of grooverider

the only thing i dont like at the moment with dnb is the fukking mc's thay dont stop fukking chatting on over every fukking tune

i also love techno the hard dark stuff erase techno compound stuff like that

[The Overfiend]

Apples & Oranges.
Love D n B thats Soulfull & Jazzy.
And the darker tech step stuff as well.

[Numeric]

I've been into Drum n Bass since the early hardcore days, and still love it to this day...

Definetly not a fan of all the jump-up, more commercial sounding s**t though...

Keep it dark like Ed Rush, heavy like Tech Itch or smooth like LTJ, non of the cheese, please...

[gumpy green]

d an b fuk aye........geez.

luv ALL forums of music....

[anx]

I've been into Drum n Bass since the early hardcore days, and still love it to this day...

Definetly not a fan of all the jump-up, more commercial sounding s**t though...

Keep it dark like Ed Rush, heavy like Tech Itch or smooth like LTJ, non of the cheese, please...

jump up = the happy hard core of jungle

bleh!

[anx]

seems alot of techno people like DnB

i wonder what the majority of DnB people think of techno?

[Evil G]

the last live pa i played 5 techno tracks, a booty-tech track, then 3 drum & bass tracks and ended with experimental. i expected the room to turn over when i switched from techno to d&b, but it didn't. i think it's possible to have "your sound" and have it shine through no matter what beat structure you lay under it.

[azerom04]

seems alot of techno people like DnB

i wonder what the majority of DnB people think of techno?

I know grooverider likes techno as do the UR boys.

I've even seen grooverider play a detroit techno set.