Succesful djs but not producers???

[DJMAYA]

who do you know of that is a succesful touring dj but does not produce their own music? i dont know of any but just wondered.
please excuse my ignorance if its toooo obvious!!!


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[MARKEG]

well that was me up until about 2-3 yrs ago!

i think it's very, very hard to make a name for yourself these days without releases under your belt. i was very proud of the fact i didn't do it until later on in my dj life. and i think that really helps you too.

my opinion of course :)

[Tiptoe]

yeah i have to agree cos in Leeds alone there are so many talented dj's that are much better than some of the big guys but they just don't produce. Its a shame it is like this. :cry:

[Komplex]

I think it sucks that dj's feel they have to write music just to be sucessful at what they do best, dj'ing.

[Komplex]

*And in many cases, the ones that do go ahead and write music, end up writing trash because they don't really have a creative musical bone in their body but are just great at mixing and being a kick arse dj.

*does not apply to all dj's who write music. Some guys are really good at both.

[dirty_bass]

And in many cases, the ones that do go ahead and write music, end up writing trash because they don't really have a creative musical bone in their body but are just great at mixing and being a kick arse dj.

This really does take an account for all the loopy crap that fills the market. No talent DJ`s knocking out a few loops in someones studio, and thinking it`s great cos they made it.

[eyes without a face]

this is a problem in most genres i think, but in techno with alot of DJ's their success and bookings are affected by the fact that they release records.

its a tough one indeed

[scotttechfunk]

There's an excellent drum and bass DJ named Bryan Gee who has been DJing for about 10 years and only in the past year has got into producing. Nowadays though it definatey seems that production will give you the in-roads into DJing which is why i'm focusing all my energy into learning production while my DJing skills temporarily go to sheeet.

[miss bass]

Yeh you definately need productions under your belt.

I think prodcution / creation of music interests me more though than djing to be honest. I think once i start buying more equipment and even getting into live pa, djing will not be as important to me. I just love sitting down and like making mad drum patterns and stuff. :)
My dream would to be infront of thousands sharing with them a live pa, with me surrounded by equipment, just being so creative and making mad sounds / rhythms. That would be soooooo ace.
Then id love to improvise some psychotic sounding jazz impro or chords over some phat beats. (hmm sounds like a plan)

Id still love to dj though. :)

[Tiptoe]

once i get some more money saved up i would love to get into the live pa side of things too. Would love to do the visuals as well think that would be ace controlling what people hear and see. Take em on a real trip

[miss bass]

visuals too! cant wait to learn some of that at Uni!!!

[Tiptoe]

visuals too! cant wait to learn some of that at Uni!!!

neither can i you can teach me lol ;)

[TripleX]

that´s why lots of deejays are shit, they get booked because of the records they have done, no matter whether they mix good or not

[DJMAYA]

yea well thats what i was getting at,

i dont have enough money/time at the moment to buy equipment as well as records, but i cant get gigs out of my country without releases so its like i HAVE to start writing seriously. i know i can do it i just dont have the resources at this time. im poor and always have been! i dont want to write just cos i have to though ya know.
i play here mosts weekends but its not enough money to survive on, i NEED MORE. hah hahahhaa a aa aa

[Jimfish]

this is a problem in most genres i think, but in techno with alot of DJ's their success and bookings are affected by the fact that they release records.

its a tough one indeed

This is true.. and i believe its a big part of what is killing things.. too many DJs want so desperatly to release music to push thier profile that loads of crap records end up floating around watering down the industry. There are only so many records can be released each month, and the more people are making music the less people are buying it..

[DJMAYA]

u are right Jimfish.

money has to play a part in all this also dunnit, like i mean obviously some have more money than others and can just write and release a track if they want to without it being a mind expanding piece of work.

and i did say some people :lol:

[Komplex]

this is a problem in most genres i think, but in techno with alot of DJ's their success and bookings are affected by the fact that they release records.

its a tough one indeed

This is true.. and i believe its a big part of what is killing things.. too many DJs want so desperatly to release music to push thier profile that loads of crap records end up floating around watering down the industry. There are only so many records can be released each month, and the more people are making music the less people are buying it..

*Yeah it shows how weird and fake the industry is. Thats why many are having major troubles making ends meet.

Specialise in what you do and do it to the best of your ability I say. If you're a dj, be the best dj you can be and you'll no doubt get good gigs in due time. It does take plenty of time, skill, effort and heaps of dedication. Put some mix cd's out overseas or something. Put your sets up on the net etc.

Writing trash music to further your dj career is lame. It doesn't represent your skill as a dj in any way whatsoever.

Sure its worked for a few people, but they are the exception. It shouldn't be a formula for every Tom, Dick and Harry.


Same goes for artists. If you don't dj, don't accept dj gigs if you can't mix records. Simple as that. It does nothing good for your credibility when you rock up and do poor dj sets each and every time..


*not everyone may agree with these views.

[killarava2day]

Same goes for artists. If you don't dj, don't accept dj gigs if you can't mix records. Simple as that. It does nothing good for your credibility when you rock up and do poor dj sets each and every time...

Maybe this is why I'd become so jaded re some Djs over time, hmm?

[DJMAYA]

it is really a funny one because often people dj much differently to their productions, or you cant really hear what they will dj like from listening to their productions.

i wonder if its always been like this....

first the egg, or the chicken

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[TripleX]

many german dj´s can´t mix no shit, but get booked cause they release record after record.
that´s the way it is, sad but true