drum programming

[grog|e]

very nice tips indeed! thnx! ill try out some shit..
btw: does any1 know a good vst compressor wich doesnt use too much cpu?

endorphin (http://www.digitalfishphones.com) bangs, and its freeware. Well worth a go.

[sash]

If it's that real driving pumping techno sound you want, wack all the percussion through a single bus on your mixer or in your computer. Put a another compressor over the lot, use 10ms attack or so and adjust the release time and ratio for the right effect. Everything should duck under the kick.

hard knee or soft knee?

[/quote="Basil Rush"]
Make sure you aren't cluttering your mids. Selectively EQ (before the compressor) your percussion. Shelving filters at the bottom or a high pass filter are very handy here.[/quote]

if u eq b4 the compressor, isn't the compressor just going to bring out unwanted frequencies out such as sibilants n so forth, thus needing to eq again?

[Basil Rush]

Not normally no. (Silibants are more a vocal thing anyway as essses are naturally quieter than the rest of the spoken voice, unless you are whispering, and compressing brings them out and then you have to fix it with a De-Esser which essentally tweaks the response of the compressor to restore a normal balance to the esss sounds).

If you imagine an extreme example, you are taking a break beat with a kick drum and putting it into your mix, you want the energy of the hi-hats and so on in the track but want to eq out the kick a bit so it'll sit in the track. if you compress before the eq the compressor will kick in on the relatively loud kick drum ducking the hi-hat part in the process. Compressing after the EQ sorts this out a bit ... does that explain or have i missed the point?

laters, B.

[H3lx]

this is probably gonna sound like a rediculous question here, but to what extent do people use toms in tracks? never used any myself, and cant really see too many oppertunities to sit them in anywhere, but im thinking more along the lines of tom use in a live kit i suppose

i see a good few mentions of toms in drum programming on here and i was just wondering where/how people use them so i can give it a go myself and see how i fair

[jake]

toms... theyre grrrrreat!

[dirty_bass]

I`ve used them for all sorts.
Basslines, tribal precussion.
All sorts.

[tekara]

btw,

lets just say you assign 10 channels to 10 different samples from your drum pattern, if you guys want to EQ and compress each channel, do you guys really open up 10 different VSTI plugin effects for all channels? isnt that a kind of cpu hog right there?


just curious thats all...

thx

[Basil Rush]

You can always bounce 'em down when you've got them right but yeah, EQ and compressor per channel very often ...

[miss bass]

wow this is my type of in deapth convo,,,,, Have to say cubase sx has a shit compressor and reverb, anyways, do u think its necessary 2 compress all your drums, i dont compress all my percussion, tiny bit of reverb definately makes drums sound bigger.

actually i dont mind sittin there with mouse and sequencing up a drum pattern, with like a small tap or hit positioned just off of the bass kick. Infact i love doing it , even to the point where u get confused which tiny square of the grid u have place it!!!

L8ly i seem to keep doing some quite drummy tunes, just like all off beat percussion going on and doubled beats etc.

Not really bothered bout havin a sampler / sequencer , mpc type thing as i like sequencing on cubase, its just the part of getting good drum samples...any1 know of any?

Thanks

[davethedrummer]

try misusing the tc electronics stereo de esser
that's got a nice sound.
or the lexi compressor on your kik.
watch out for slow attack times.
if you do a roll on the kik and your comp is set too tight and too
slow it'll struggle to catch all the quick beats.

use reverb sparingly.
if you can seperate the reverb returns do it and have them coming back on a seperate channel on the mixer.
try putting this through a bus along with the kik and some perc.

have fun with yer drums