Favourite type of hard?

[eyes without a face]

haha, a funny one this and in no way connected to porn....

whats ur favourite type of hard? u know what i mean, there are the obvious hard subgenres like Schranz etc, but whats ur favourite?

mine wud have to be the more subtle hardness thats out there, ideally Surgeon. Not instantly banging at times, or fast (as alot of people seem to think is a requiem for hardness) but that shit cuts deeper than any schranz or german records u can get ur hands on.

im not slagging any types of hard techno by the way, i love it all really.

Hardness with intelligence, thats what im after ;)

[MangaFish]

Depends on the mood really. Sometimes i'm buzzing with energy and want something with pace (especially if the music has been building up to it all night). Other times i want something slower, but with more and heavier layers.

[FUSION]

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[Tiptoe]

surgeon regis mulero wunsch type of hard. It has just so much more to it imo.

[eyes without a face]

definately joe, the point i was trying to make! without taking anything away from the schranz lot, but the dark stuff has alot more depth, meaning and personal feelings to it than the latest german bangy bangy record....

anything by Wunsch, Mulero, Exium, Surgeon, Regis, Female etc etc just cuts that little bit deeper for me

[Tiptoe]

yeah i mean i have seen surgeon twice lately once at locked and at throb and seen mulero and wunsch a few times too and every time i seen these guys i just thought this is easily the best music i have heard imo of course. Just my opinion of couse but you can't beat a surgeon set

[TiagoTechnoHead]

Somebody said Hard with inteligence and I think that´s the way too !!!!! Greg Silver is one of my favorites ..... !!!!! :clap: :lol: But, Sven Wittekind , O.B.I. & Petduo makes and plays a soooouuuunnnndddd !!!!!!!!!

[basslinejunkie]

surgeon regis mulero wunsch type of hard. It has just so much more to it imo.

definately.its all i buy these days :love: i also love gunjacks style,no nonsense,raw techno

[fatcollective]

i like the more hard but clean hard, if ya know what im saying. some hard stuff for me is too hard, like the sound does'nt punch through clean enough, loads of distosion and loads of compression and when mixing it sounds like the rig is gonna blow up, no disrespect to it though, its just my opinion and what my ears hear. i love to hear really thrash techno, but just dont go for it myself, unless its cleaner sounding. i remeber i bought some early Blitzkrieg stuff from Robert Natus, and **** me, it was so hard and distroted i could'nt really hear what was goin on, mad shit...but my brother loved it...!

[eyes without a face]

tiago, without disrespecting the artists youve mentioned (i have records from all of them in my box) they are the exact types of techno producers that, in my opinion, lack the intelligence we talk about!

they are all very talented yes, but besides maybe Pet Duo who i think have the most talent there, but they also make some of the most less intelligent music thats out there i think... all good, but just doesnt have the thought and depth as say the likes of Wunsch, Mulero etc etc..... hardness but with darkkkneesss too, well thought out, deep, dark synth lines and programming

[The Overfiend]

Oliver Ho used to be the king of this,
Ruskin was a champion of it too. The harder stuff with a thought process behind it I believe it the task that most of us are putting ourselves to these days. It's not a matter of claiming who's subgenre reigns supreme, it's a matter of standing apart from the crowd, and being distinctive.

[eyes without a face]

2 wikid examples there dude, Ho's earlier stuff on meta had thought oozing out of it, and Ruskin's always been up there

[TiagoTechnoHead]

I think I was misunderstood .... When I said music with inteligence , I said it to Greg Silver´s music .....
The other names are my favorites djs in Hard Techno !!!!! I agree with u ....

[eyes without a face]

ahh yes i get u, i think Greg and the skulltunes crew inject more humour than intelligence into their music....

i loved that "kids" record that was out, think that was from Mike Dust, that was wikid

[Esox Lucius]

dark & hard, inigo kennedy say as an example

[Tiptoe]

yeah indigo and gunjack. dark and really hard

[waldhaus]

I like German Hardtechno!

DJ Amok and Seema are my favorites! Skulltunes made very cool tunes, too, but they lack off something I think!

[eyes without a face]

yeah for sure i like the german hard stuff, but i can see it for what it is and my personal preference is stuff with more depth, soul n heart to it.

but both amok and seema rock it, for sure

[Mindful]

Not instantly banging at times, or fast (as alot of people seem to think is a requiem for hardness) ;)

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yeh definatly Sugeon type gear dark sounds intelligent drum programing a bit minnimal.this stuffs more about hard industrial sounds,energy and the percussion just keeps driving in to your head so your mind and soul are dancing not your body this sh*ts so good for mixing creating energy and mood it puts you (or me at least) in some sort of zen like heads down combat zone.has anyone heard the"for Kosivo LP"(i think thats what its called)Beyer,Surgeon,Ruskin,Carrolla,Advent ect.im realy in to the surgeon track or chris liebing"next try ep"Chris Liebing "STIGMATA 10"is cool too

am also in to Leo Laker,Sven Wittiken,amok,Mark n Chrissi and all that kinda vibe plus driving stuff like Lars Klien,M.Burkatt the label Audio assault has a good driving sound too

but the deeper sound mooves me on a different level :love:

p.s. forgot to mention Headroom

[jonnyspeed]

sepultura

word!

...and

hard acid techno
hard teknival
hard squat techno
hard ghetto
hard elektro
hard wonked-up mess