Ok guys lets face it.

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haha.. can't say that i have.

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haha.. can't say that i have.

[dirty_bass]

dirty_bass wrote:
Screw vinyl
Screw Mp3
Screw CD
Screw DVD
I`m going for holochips

It`s techno innit



psychic projection is the new way foward mate, read it in last months dj mag

Do we have all have to mediatate to recieve the projections? this could be a whole new era for clubbing :lol:

seriously though, I dont think a complete move to CD's should be made as the 16bit 44.1KHz standard quality just doesnt cut it. When the standard playback rate on CD decks is 24bit 96KHz I think we can justify laying the vinyl to rest as it wont be able to compete with that kind of quality.

your totalyy wrong mate there was a very educated post about this on this thread, read it.

most clubs I go to now have a nice set of denons or poineer decks in them now

[dan the acid man]

or i should say.. i love it too, i'm just happy not to carry it around

have you seen SOS's arms? that doesnt happen carrying around an Ipod.

haha, nice one :lol:

[dirty_bass]

No he got those arms from carrying DJ`s with bad attitudes all the way to coney island so he could throw the body into the sea. :lol:

Don`t phuck with buck, cos buck will phuck you up.

[Komplex]

here is a solution to everyones problems:

Vinyl lovers: stick to vinyl and don't bitch about shit. Just get over it and keep using vinyl cus 1200's won't be disapearing any time soon. You have nothing to worry about.

Digital doods: Stop bagging vinyl. Just do your thing and don't get involved in the vinyl purist bitchness. There's nothing to prove. Let the music do the talking.

[Internal Error Records]

here is a solution to everyones problems:

Vinyl lovers: stick to vinyl and don't bitch about shit. Just get over it and keep using vinyl cus 1200's won't be disapearing any time soon. You have nothing to worry about.

Digital doods: Stop bagging vinyl. Just do your thing and don't get involved in the vinyl purist bitchness. There's nothing to prove. Let the music do the talking.

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[acidsaturation]

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I second that.

I love both.

[fatcollective]

here is a solution to everyones problems:

Vinyl lovers: stick to vinyl and don't bitch about shit. Just get over it and keep using vinyl cus 1200's won't be disapearing any time soon. You have nothing to worry about.

Digital doods: Stop bagging vinyl. Just do your thing and don't get involved in the vinyl purist bitchness. There's nothing to prove. Let the music do the talking.

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:clap: :clap: :clap: cool boys, im sick of all this vinyl bitchin, it makes me sad! :cry:

[gumpy green]

here is a solution to everyones problems:

Vinyl lovers: stick to vinyl and don't bitch about shit. Just get over it and keep using vinyl cus 1200's won't be disapearing any time soon. You have nothing to worry about.

Digital doods: Stop bagging vinyl. Just do your thing and don't get involved in the vinyl purist bitchness. There's nothing to prove. Let the music do the talking.

aye......ill be sticking with the decks for now, and i await to see folks doing good stuff with cds. i personally cant see no better use for them apart from maybe a slightly better sound quality(which i dont hear much diff between cd and vynil anyway), one day they may even get the cds to play in time with each other without having to beatmatch, great fun eh, not.

but they cant full represent a true vynil feel, not yet anyway, i think all they have is backward/forward motion sensor, which real vynil has much more (its got vibrations effects whcih are important for skratching-which aint old btw, its still very much evolving whether you understand it or not)

i think cds will eventually take the fun outta playing

[gumpy green]

saying that i think i will end up getting one of the cd decks once i have written some of my own tunes, so i can play em out.

will be adding it to the 2 1210's tho. 2 decks plus 1 cd, think that would be good.

[Barely Human]

I think someone needs to invent a viable multitrack medium. Lets say an 8 track on a cd, so you could take different parts of of the mix live. I think that could be quite intresting. As for cds that beatmatch themselves - its already available, and im all for it. Why should you have to beat match? It doesnt make the music any better, all it does is distract your attention away from being creative. Since most people can beat match pretty decently with a bit of practice, i hope we see an end to this anoyance as soon as posible.

[gumpy green]

As for cds that beatmatch themselves - its already available, and im all for it. Why should you have to beat match?

why should you have to maunually do anything?

why even bother taking yer shot off the t in golf, why not just stick the ball in the whole.

why have goalkeepers in footy, in fact why not just do away from the whole 2 teams and just have someone kick a ball over an empty goal all the time.

or get racing cars on tracks so you dont need drivers..

its all about the sport/art/whatever..........


im sure someone could write a script that would write a tune for you using random samples and random patterns but would that be any good.

what about using a cheat on a computa game so you can complete the level no sweat.....fun time ahead for som

[Barely Human]

As for cds that beatmatch themselves - its already available, and im all for it. Why should you have to beat match?

why should you have to maunually do anything?

why even bother taking yer shot off the t in golf, why not just stick the ball in the whole.

why have goalkeepers in footy, in fact why not just do away from the whole 2 teams and just have someone kick a ball over an empty goal all the time.

or get racing cars on tracks so you dont need drivers..

its all about the sport/art/whatever..........


im sure someone could write a script that would write a tune for you using random samples and random patterns but would that be any good.

what about using a cheat on a computa game so you can complete the level no sweat.....fun time ahead for som

Why should we have to care about something that doesnt effect the content of the music you are playing?? Just to make thongs hard for yourself? Just to look cool infront of your mates? To be "better" than someone at something??

Id rather concentrate on making the mix different, being able to add in as many different sources as i can to make the music different and original. I like to hear new music. I like to hear new music changed "live", but most people seam to think that this just means pulling off a perfect mix.

Is beatmatching that hard really? No, all it does is distracts from the actual music. Yes, it can be fun, but to be honest, im sick of it. It hinders me in producing something new and original.

Dont get me wrong, i love decks. But i use them for a different purpose. I am a turntablist. I have perfomed in the DMC championships. That shit is hard to learn, and that is using the deck as a musical instrument. Beat matching 2 techno records is not. Its not hard, its not clever, and its certainly not original.

[TechMouse]

im sure someone could write a script that would write a tune for you using random samples and random patterns but would that be any good.

I read an interview with Aphex Twin once where he pretty much claimed he had done this, and he's been one of the most consistantly inventive and prolific electronic artists of all time. But yeah, you're right... what's the point eh?

Anyway, if you want to be a vinyl purist, and spend oodles of time perfecting the beatmatch then go ahead, who is anyone else to stand in your way? I'm sure everyone will stroke their chin, and applaud the accuracy with which you aligned the two recordings.

I'll be over here trying to do stuff that other people haven't thought of yet.

Oh, and the music / sport analogy doesn't work on any level whatsoever.

[gumpy green]

well i can keep the beatmatch no sweat and control 2 fx units at the same time..........not very easy but thats whats the buety of it. seeing someone control all that is fairly impressive.

yer right staright forward beatmatching is easy but then again who wants to straight forward beatmacth, thats not advancing shit.

IQ- yeh as ive said beatmatching is easy and not doing much for me....thats why yav got to add shit on top of it to be considerred a good dj by me.

glad yer into turntablism , as am i, been in scotlands dmc final back in 2000 when i was into battles......lets hear some of yer stuff.

hears some o my techno-turntablism.

http://www.diversefrequencies.co.uk/...ch_example.mp3
http://www.diversefrequencies.co.uk/..._plus_cuts.mp3
http://www.diversefrequencies.co.uk/...h_fx_intro.mp3

i like the nervahammer juggley thingy.....to me thats pushing djing forward not using machines to do it......go live pa for that...IMO

[gumpy green]

I'll be over here trying to do stuff that other people haven't thought of yet.

Oh, and the music / sport analogy doesn't work on any level whatsoever.

what are thes new things....lets hear it then..

and the music / sport analogy does im sorry......... i couldve used other shit apart form sport...

[TechMouse]

what are thes new things....lets hear it then..

As and when I feel I've done something worth anyone listening to, I'm sure I'll stick it up in the Filez section. At which point your input will be very gratefully recieved. ;)

and the music / sport analogy does im sorry......... i couldve used other shit apart form sport...

Sport works on the premise that someone is the best at something.

You can't be "the best" at music, as it's all subjective. So, in lieu of celebrating anyone's superiority, I base my enjoyment on the diversity, creativity and "magic" (for want of a better word) involved.

So, yes, cheating at sport is stupid because you're not really achieving.

It's ok to "cheat" at music though, because there is no "winning", everyone's just enjoying the ride.

Anyway, you could argue that basic DJing is "cheating" too because the tunes have all been recorded in a studio - this is, of course, an old argument which gets on the tits of just about everyone in the electronic music scene.

The counter argument is that dance music pushes the boundaries, and there's stuff you can make in the studio that you could NEVER do live. You're saying "I'm playing records because it lets me do stuff I couldn't do otherwise". Now, where have I heard a similar statement before...?

[gumpy green]

mmmmm see yer point.....

still ill be keeping my djing live and wax and i recon ill still put on a more inovative set than most using cds will....for me one of the things i like about djing is its manul rawness.......i aint got no probs with folks going on ther seperate ways, i do actually like to see it sometimes(we got jamie ball playing for us soon using tractor to mix all his own tracks).. some may say this is cheating, i dont, fair enuf the mixin of the tracks is kiddies play as it does it for you pressinj a button but the work thats went into the tracks is ALOT(and worth a great deal in my eyes). so overall his set will be off the hook.

me personally- i may however build on my djing by adding some live boxes into the setup to do these new creative things....got a su700 that i need to get going with the dekx.....just no patterns in it yet cos im lame when it comes to production..

but when it comes to djing for me its gotta be wax and i cant see producers stoppin using it cos i recon theyd make less.....i wont change over as do most folk i know that dj.

[gumpy green]

also i think you can be better at music than someone else...

motzart was well better at music than any techno track ive ever heard....infact most o the great classical composers are on the next level...not many techno producers are.

BUT id rather listen to all you guys.....