The Blackout Audio forum future

[tioneb]

To be honnest and not to feel condescendant, i recently found the BOA forum pretty boring these days, concerning the forums im reading (mainly this one, the dark techno and the hard techno).

The dark techno has seen some good and originally minded people leave. The discussions are mostly about the new BMB release of that 100th Surgeon set (yes hes original but not enough to make me able to listen a new set of him each week).

The hard techno is all about the new skoog and wilson release.

thje techno forum is interesting but most of the time the topics are pointless (at least people dare variety and thats good).

So as we are in a postive forum, i would like to inctate people to dare talkinga bout new topics, new producers. About what make them like or dislike some track (most of the time the posts give personnal opinion without any argument).

I htink it would be very interesting people share their influences, the evolution of their tastes and their recent discoveries to give some more consitence in the "that track is good "discussions that have invaded the board.

There's so much new music going out these days, and i feel sick that with all variaty people are only able to launch another jeff mills adam beyer ore regis thread !!!

Just my two cents . Cheers

[eyes without a face]

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[mrbenn]

I htink it would be very interesting people share their influences, the evolution of their tastes and their recent discoveries to give some more consitence in the "that track is good "discussions that have invaded the board.

There's so much new music going out these days, and i feel sick that with all variaty people are only able to launch another jeff mills adam beyer ore regis thread !!!

Threads like this do excist but they usually end up going to the bottom of the thread list as no one (or not many) bother to reply to them.

[dirty_bass]

To be honnest and not to feel condescendant, i recently found the BOA forum pretty boring these days, concerning the forums im reading (mainly this one, the dark techno and the hard techno).

The dark techno has seen some good and originally minded people leave. The discussions are mostly about the new BMB release of that 100th Surgeon set (yes hes original but not enough to make me able to listen a new set of him each week).

The hard techno is all about the new skoog and wilson release.

thje techno forum is interesting but most of the time the topics are pointless (at least people dare variety and thats good).

So as we are in a postive forum, i would like to inctate people to dare talkinga bout new topics, new producers. About what make them like or dislike some track (most of the time the posts give personnal opinion without any argument).

I htink it would be very interesting people share their influences, the evolution of their tastes and their recent discoveries to give some more consitence in the "that track is good "discussions that have invaded the board.

There's so much new music going out these days, and i feel sick that with all variaty people are only able to launch another jeff mills adam beyer ore regis thread !!!

Just my two cents . Cheers

Go to the listening club at the top of this forum.
I put it there to discuss new music (not necessarily techno) so we can all educate each other.
not many people go there.

So go on, quit wining and make this place interesting.

[ampassasinbirmingham]

the dark forum is lame since all the people that posted in there got banned. nick, luka and mika wernt always liked by everyone, but they sure got people talking in the dark forum,

i for one wish that they were back

[dirty_bass]

all they ever did was slag everyon off but their mates.
You can go to squatjuice for that.

[crime]

the dark forum is lame since all the people that posted in there got banned. nick, luka and mika wernt always liked by everyone, but they sure got people talking in the dark forum,

i for one wish that they were back

Yeah, well, some of us tried to post about what we thought was interesting experimental music, and got dissed because it wasn't BMB, Regis or Female (not that I have anything against this music by the way), and couldn't be bothered with getting involved in petty forum, squabbles..
I'm posting the odd thing here now, but it's attitudes like theirs that completely turned me off forums, on the positive side it meant I got loads of music done, so at least something good came out of it...

[MARKEG]

the dark forum is lame since all the people that posted in there got banned. nick, luka and mika wernt always liked by everyone, but they sure got people talking in the dark forum,

i for one wish that they were back

Yeah, well, some of us tried to post about what we thought was interesting experimental music, and got dissed because it wasn't BMB, Regis or Female (not that I have anything against this music by the way), and couldn't be bothered with getting involved in petty forum, squabbles..
I'm posting the odd thing here now, but it's attitudes like theirs that completely turned me off forums, on the positive side it meant I got loads of music done, so at least something good came out of it...

f*** spot on. why moan? get the tracks done and shut up ;)

[ampassasinbirmingham]

the dark forum is lame since all the people that posted in there got banned. nick, luka and mika wernt always liked by everyone, but they sure got people talking in the dark forum,

i for one wish that they were back

Yeah, well, some of us tried to post about what we thought was interesting experimental music, and got dissed because it wasn't BMB, Regis or Female (not that I have anything against this music by the way), and couldn't be bothered with getting involved in petty forum, squabbles..
I'm posting the odd thing here now, but it's attitudes like theirs that completely turned me off forums, on the positive side it meant I got loads of music done, so at least something good came out of it...

the forum did get un-nesasarilly heated sometimes, but sureley this is bette than it being dryer than Ghandi's flip flop over there.

other than the dark forum, i thought blackout is quite health nowerdays. i like "The Techno Forum" quite a bit. Lots of stuff gets talked about in there.

[dirty_bass]

Yeah, well, I used to post a lot of stuff on the dark/exp forum.
But because it was never surgeon/regis etc it never got read, so I only post now and again.

[MARKEG]

OK this is actually a REALLY good post. The new site is sooooooooo very close. 2-4 weeks, no more than 2 months for sure. It's a massive step for us, so I need to know what you all like about these forums and where you think they should go. What rules should be have in place and what rules we shouldn't have in place. Be open, be honest. Let me know what you like about the forums and what you don't....

Please let's not get into an argument, but what do you all want to see on here???

[djshiva]

i think that communities naturally ebb and flow as far as topic and excitement levels go. once a ton of people are there, it becomes like any other community. sometimes busy, sometimes not; sometimes interesting, sometimes not.

i have seen so many online communities go through the ebb and flow and someone is always talking about what can be done to "fix" it or make it more interesting. the fact of the matter is, sometimes people get excited, sometimes they are boring. that's the way people and conversations are.
realize that you can't force excitement and interesting shit, and just let things develop as they may. it doesn't have to be supah interesting 24-7.

as far as mark's question, in my opinion, as little "regulation" as possible please. i have been the admin for several groups and i belong to many, and the one thing that irks me more than anything is when people try to control the direction that these communities go. when you get this many people, things happen on their own, and really making an effort to dictate the direction or the attitudes only results in a lot of arguing and resentment.

many may not agree with me on this, and that's ok. :) i don't even ban negative asswipes from the sites i admin for, just because they give me and others with intelligent viewpoints a chance to verbally wipe the floor with them. keeps things interesting. ;p (the obvious exception for me is raging racist, sexist, homophobic asswipes. i tend to be a little meaner to them.) communities consist of all types, and all attitudes. unless someone is absolutely verbally abusive, i personally don't care to see them banned.

the dynamics of conversation revolve around conflict. and blocking out all conflict is fairly boring.

as far as what i'd like to see...i wouldn't mind a politics/world events section, but that's cuz i am an activist dork. ;)

anyhow, hope this wasn't just rambling nonsense. i just got off work, so i am a bit brain fried. ;)

[Komplex]

I was thinking the same thing. It's like trying to enforce thought control by implying where the board should go and what should be said and what can't be said etc.

Just leave it as it is. If you don't like certain topics, stay out of them, if you think theres no good topics at all, POST ONE YOURSELF.

as arnie says, "STOP WHINING!"

[Mirsha]

Yes there is a tendancy for the popular things to stick around and the classic little gems get lost in the mists of time. This is just something is going to happen unless people make a bit more effort to keep a decent thread going, and I don't just mean jumping into the dying embers of a thread to post a "*bump* or other meaningless twaddle. Or you know when you read a good opening post, then half a dozen good replies then the rest of the page is just random bollocks and you see the thread goes on three pages but you know in your heart it's going to be filled with terrible rantings and at least a dozen posts by people saying "YEAH!" or "Thats great" and other collected statements which don't really say anything apart from showing the posters need to post.

I think it's just one of these things that you have to learn to live with, I mean these are the Blackout Audio forums, it draws people who are into Blackout Audio style music so of course these people are going to be mostly focussed on certain conversational music threads. I post over at No-Future where stuff like schranz is glossed over in favour of all things Mosquitoy. These are specific markets pulling specific people. I mean me and Benoit have been on the same mailing list for five years or so now and in some ways the content of that pisses me off as it's more based around techno producers in America and I've tried several times to punt really good stuff from Scotland at them and have received barely no feed back from them.

To some degree the diversity of threads could be a little higher if people would stop using ****ing god awful thread titles. I swear everytime I see titled "So I..." or "Is this good?" or any other generic "this is a generic statement which doesn't say a single thing about whats in this thread, so my well thought out and argument provoking words will be glossed over by the majority of people", I just want to break out the lambasting scorpions, I practicaly always ignore these threads these days because if someone can't even be bothered to take the ****ing time to come up with a decent title for the thread which draws people in then their post is probably not be worth reading.

[The Overfiend]

f*** spot on. why moan? get the tracks done and shut up ;)

That's what I'm sayin'
Why start threads complaining, start threads adding to the positive motion of things. Make mo musica!

[Martin Dust]

I really don't understand the "prozac" lets be happy and not complain vibe here, puts me off to be honest...

[The Overfiend]

So then post on your forum.
We're trying to keep things productive and positive around here.
Pro active even.
Why sit there and dwell on past mistakes and dumb short comings, there's a genre all for that called emo.
For real b. It can put you off all it wants to. The lot of people here are pro active and involved as you are no doubt. But we can either dwell on whats wrong and say it sucks, or address it note it to not repeat it and move ahead. Not stagnant.

[Martin Dust]

Who are you to tell me what to say and feel?

That's what you just don't get Sam, just look at your attitude alone, seems OK for you to give the short shrift to anyone, in fact I'd say that you are also responsible for stopping people posting turning them off. That's what I truly feel, perhap no-one else has got the bottle to say it but hey...the vibe, where is it?

Don't take it to heart but I just find it a bit sickening...

[The Overfiend]

How am I telling you to do anything?
And you don't speak for a lot of people. Maybe just Alan.
I'm just encouraging a positive environment.
Call it like you see it, but honestly you saying you think all of us talking of change and being positive is a turn off? I mean who is the negative here?

[Martin Dust]

See, you missed the point. Your opening line was "Why don't you post somewhere else then" - nice one, great way to get me posting, well positive, no?

I aint speaking for anyone but myself, the reason I don't post a lot is you can't say what you want or feel. Thought police and that's the reason other people don't. I've got enough exp. to tell you that, the minute you try to control things you are ****ed.

You keep talking about change and being positive but I don't and can't see what you are actually talking about, just saying it over and over doesn't really count.