melodic techno

**Evil G** · 25-04-2005, 11:43 AM

a Q for the few peeps around here who are into more melodic/synthy techno rather than the mostly percussive stuff which most people seem to be into...

what are your thoughts on modulating to different keys, or even just "plain" chord progressions within the same key? since there are "no rules" in techno, is it ok to stay in the same key the whole time, or does that doom the track to being boring and flat?

one of the things that puts me off of a lot of trance is how cheesy the key modulation sounds after an epic breakdown. i'll be into it until the bassline descends into another key and then it just turns my stomach (sorry to the trance guys in the croud...lol, that's just how if feel about it!).

so i guess what i'm really asking is, anybody got any tips for making something melodically interesting while avoiding the cheese? so far, my melodic stuff has avoided the cheese by playing it safe and sticking to a couple of chords, but i guess i'm feeling more adventurous these days.

**dirty_bass** · 25-04-2005, 12:07 PM

Well, I love a well made melody, pure percussion is fine, but it doesn`t really say much.
I think making a really nice meldody out of more unusual sounds can work.
Combining odd sounds, that together build up a nice chord or melody is a "techno" way of approaching things.
A lot of people will say that nay melody is cheesy, but personally, I`m starting to find the more obvious, purely percussive "look at me I`m so hard"
techno to be cheesy.

Proper songlike key changes, and more complex chordal progressions may well work, and it`s something I really want to investigate myself.
As long as it`s done tastefully, I don`t see anything wrong with it.

**lau** · 25-04-2005, 12:46 PM

Think cari is the man....

just listen to his records to get some id'zz

**RDR** · 25-04-2005, 02:16 PM

i presume you're talking about cari lekebusch?

**lau** · 25-04-2005, 02:24 PM

Originally Posted by dodgyedgy

i presume you're talking about cari lekebusch?

yupzz lekebusch I mean..

He always seems to create melodies with freaky sounds...

**fresh_an_funky_design** · 25-04-2005, 03:30 PM

funk d'void makes some nice melodic techno

**RDR** · 25-04-2005, 03:39 PM

Originally Posted by lau

Originally Posted by dodgyedgy

i presume you're talking about cari lekebusch?

yupzz lekebusch I mean..

He always seems to create melodies with freaky sounds...

Yeah man, Cari's production values are super high!

**lau** · 25-04-2005, 03:53 PM

Originally Posted by dodgyedgy

Yeah man, Cari's production values are super high!

Like I said he is the man

Though haven't heard really good stuff of him lately...

Think his old work rocks like hell...

b.t.w.
love you naoto hattori avatar... that guy can paint ;)

**detfella** · 25-04-2005, 04:39 PM

and cari is playing darkside

can't wait!!

re: the melodies i like the devils note, bernstein used it in west side story a lot.

Originally Posted by randomwebpage

The no-no interval, or tritone

There's another reason why the G7 moves so satisfyingly to the C. It's called the tritone interval. This interval will make your straight hair curly, your milk go sour, and will propel the G7 smack into the C with cataclysmic force. (That last sentence sounds great if you pretend you're Charlton Heston.)

The tritone is an interval, which means it's two notes: B and F. Play a B and an F, listening to how unusual they sound together and how much tension they produce.

**Starfuqer** · 25-04-2005, 07:03 PM

adding a melodic progression to techno would just make it sound like tech trance or tech house

**detfella** · 25-04-2005, 07:11 PM

disagree totally. didn't 90% of first techno tracks have melodic progressions?

**herman** · 25-04-2005, 07:20 PM

Originally Posted by detfella

disagree totally. didn't 90% of first techno tracks have melodic progressions?

At least , its something thats sadly lacking now

**dirty_bass** · 25-04-2005, 08:18 PM

Originally Posted by Starfuqer

adding a melodic progression to techno would just make it sound like tech trance or tech house

hahaha
I hate sub sub genres.

Adding a bassline to techno makes it bassline techno
Adding vocals makes it vocal techno.
Techno has no rules. It`s an attitude.

**xfive** · 25-04-2005, 09:02 PM

What if it has a bassline, vocals, melodies, and banging perc?

:lol:

**audioinjection** · 25-04-2005, 09:36 PM

Originally Posted by xfive

What if it has a bassline, vocals, melodies, and banging perc?

:lol:

trance :lol:

**xfive** · 25-04-2005, 09:37 PM

Originally Posted by audioinjection

Originally Posted by xfive

What if it has a bassline, vocals, melodies, and banging perc?

:lol:

trance :lol:

noooooooooooooo!!! We're doomed.

:bash:

**Starfuqer** · 25-04-2005, 09:41 PM

Originally Posted by detfella

disagree totally. didn't 90% of first techno tracks have melodic progressions?

whigfield saturday night?

**RDR** · 25-04-2005, 11:19 PM

Originally Posted by Starfuqer

Originally Posted by detfella

disagree totally. didn't 90% of first techno tracks have melodic progressions?

whigfield saturday night?

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

"Saturday night and i like the way you...cameras ready prepare to flash!"

Wasnt that greenwigfield?

**Starfuqer** · 25-04-2005, 11:21 PM

Saturday night , and the air is getting hot

with my baby

or something like that
She had like 3 videos or something
lol

**Komplex** · 26-04-2005, 03:01 AM

Originally Posted by Starfuqer

adding a melodic progression to techno would just make it sound like tech trance or tech house

oh no, we wouldn't want the music to be mis labeled and put into the wrong category cus then it just wouldn't be good would it ;)

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