SOFTWARE MORE POWERFULL THAN HARDWARE?

[acidsaturation]

It's really just a case of chaque un a son gout.

It's always good to natter about this one, but don't reckon anyone's gonna change their ways.

At the end of the day I reckon few of us are fortunate enough to be able to have exactly what we want so to some extent it's gonna come down to using the tools available....

[eyes without a face]

i agree with Filterz this particular topic really has been done to death, and its been done on this board enough times for it to be easy to do a search and check back on opinions...

i find that most of the hardware/software debates are made by people who are predominantly hardware users but have recently become dissillusioned at hearing all software produced tracks that are sounding better than there own work... i find in general people using software only get more done because they tend not to get as anal as all out hardware users and actually enjoy themselves more because they can still do everything the hardware user can do, plus much, much more... and the sound quality is achievable and its been proved on numerous occasions, and will be proved again time and time over...

but yeah just use whats more comfortable, economical, practical and enjoyable to you

[eyes without a face]

i wasnt lumping u into my comment there by the way when i say about hardware users becoming disillusioned, before it kicks off haha

[acidsaturation]

I think software users are all jealous 'cos they only have virtual knobs...

Or soft knobs for that matter... :lol:

[TechMouse]

I think software users are all jealous 'cos they only have virtual knobs...

Or soft knobs for that matter... :lol:

<insert your own "virus" joke here>

[FILTERZ]

GOD AM I BORED BY THIS SUBJECT

Use what you like , just make it good

Just tried to start a post for people to discuss. Sorry if you dont like and are bored, but you dont have to read it. :lol:

Didn`t say you lot couldn`t chat about it did i , knock yerselves out ;)
it wasn`t meant as a personal slur anyway fella . Just that the hardware software thing is just irrelavant to me . If your talking digital vs analog then there is something to talk about but lots of hardware is digital anyway and therefore is also running software of some kind .

didnt mean to be so negative but yaaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwnnnnnn ;) :lol:

[Scott Kemix]

no worries, but i dont think, just because certain artists move over and dont use no hardware at all, doesnt necessarily mean it will work for them.
Each to there own................sorry am i boring you again :lol:

[Scott Kemix]

My main quarm was, when i last went to get some tracks vinyl mastered over the past couple of months featuring various tracks from different producers, the engineer could obviously spot the 'digitally' produced tracks from the more 'real' sounding tracks just by looking at the waves and spec analyser. Before this was actually cut, the power and clarity of the 'digital' sounding tracks lacked punch. Questions were thrown in the air about using plug'ins etc on these tracks, and they obviously were.
This was the main reason for starting the thread.

[massplanck]

Hardware + real instruments for the ideas + sounds + the track for me

With software I find that its just too bloody time wasting ugrading this downloading this installing this rebooting this clicking this blllllllleeeeeeeeeeeeeeughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhh when with a peice of hardware i can just switch it on every time and off i go. I worry about the notes not the sounds (because i can trust them)

& Dont give me that shit about midi controllers you still have to piss about with them and assign knobs and click here assign it to each program and ****. bleuuuuuuuuuuuuughhhhhhhhhhhh :lol:

I ****ing hate looking at computer screen (Execpt when posting here of course). If you can afford decks + djm 600 + 1000 records then you can afford to save for a bit of hardware. Imagine Jeff Mills and Kraftwerk had decided to pack in making music because they 'couldnt afford hardware' . If you love what you are doing.......


Software for the sequencing though... cubase et all. I appreciate what software can do so much and i do use it from time to time but in my eyes it will never match hardware untill they start supplying each program with its own personalised control interface.

As for having 60 producers using exactly the same program to make tunes (abelton for example).. when did indiviuality go out the window? evryone used to have completely different setups and thus stood out from each other in tonality & performance. Now you just have the fruityloops/abelton/acid gangs.... all sounding way too similar for my liking


This is my opinion. :dontevengothere: :lol:

[massplanck]

I also find that software leads to over use of everything to mask shit programming.... that wall of sound wank we have been talking about.

my opinion of course... :lol:


If you think todays techno sounds better than the techno before the advent of the computer then you might be right... but if you still think that pre 98 was where it was at.. then am i right?

[TechMouse]

As for having 60 producers using exactly the same program to make tunes (abelton for example).. when did indiviuality go out the window?

Yeah, 'cuz every drum track made on a 909 is identical innit. :roll:

[nova]

Hardware + real instruments for the ideas + sounds + the track for me

With software I find that its just too bloody time wasting ugrading this downloading this installing this rebooting this clicking this blllllllleeeeeeeeeeeeeeughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhh when with a peice of hardware i can just switch it on every time and off i go. I worry about the notes not the sounds (because i can trust them)

& Dont give me that shit about midi controllers you still have to piss about with them and assign knobs and click here assign it to each program and ****. bleuuuuuuuuuuuuughhhhhhhhhhhh :lol:

I **** hate looking at computer screen (Execpt when posting here of course). If you can afford decks + djm 600 + 1000 records then you can afford to save for a bit of hardware. Imagine Jeff Mills and Kraftwerk had decided to pack in making music because they 'couldnt afford hardware' . If you love what you are doing.......


Software for the sequencing though... cubase et all. I appreciate what software can do so much and i do use it from time to time but in my eyes it will never match hardware untill they start supplying each program with its own personalised control interface.

As for having 60 producers using exactly the same program to make tunes (abelton for example).. when did indiviuality go out the window? evryone used to have completely different setups and thus stood out from each other in tonality & performance. Now you just have the fruityloops/abelton/acid gangs.... all sounding way too similar for my liking


This is my opinion. :dontevengothere: :lol:

big messege ta quote but anyway. the midi. if that was somthing to do with wot i said about midi. its not setting up the controls thats the problem its timing on my setup. if you made a track down here on my hardware & logic you would see where im coming from. dont get me wrong midi can be tight as. just not here for me on logic

peace out :wicked:

[massplanck]

As for having 60 producers using exactly the same program to make tunes (abelton for example).. when did indiviuality go out the window?

Yeah, 'cuz every drum track made on a 909 is identical innit. :roll:

The 909 just handled the drums of the tracks as far as I can remember. :roll: :lol:

Its just a personal opinion.

[nova]

ouch! that want even in this tread haha

[massplanck]

dont get me wrong midi can be tight as. just not here for me on logic

peace out :wicked:

on your PC you mean. :lol: I just love synhing up three drum machines and letting fly with knobs and buttons. No setting up stuff or timing issues.. just fun and tight sounds without the plugins.

just an opinion.

[TechMouse]

As for having 60 producers using exactly the same program to make tunes (abelton for example).. when did indiviuality go out the window?

Yeah, 'cuz every drum track made on a 909 is identical innit. :roll:

The 909 just handled the drums of the tracks as far as I can remember. :roll: :lol:

Its just a personal opinion.

Care to re-read?

[massplanck]

Care to re-read?

stung

At leats you had to program your own beats from scratch then though.. and ther were more drum machines around.

I have nothing against software... its just not for me execpt for a bit of midi sequencing and using soundforge Guitars/drumkits/raw drum machines/microphones + synths being tweaked with bells whistles on.... it just gives me the horn.

I just cant not get an erection looking at a computer monitor with my whole studio on screen..

[nova]

dont get me wrong midi can be tight as. just not here for me on logic

peace out :wicked:

on your PC you mean. :lol: I just love synhing up three drum machines and letting fly with knobs and buttons. No setting up stuff or timing issues.. just fun and tight sounds without the plugins.

just an opinion.

yeah on the mac. i had some dude send me a setup for all ports on my emagic amt8 so all ports were there own indvidule ports 1 2 3 and so on but midi timing was alful for about 2 bars everytime i pressed play. but i did hav about 8 pieces of hardware connectd

[TechMouse]

I just cant not get an erection looking at a computer monitor with my whole studio on screen..

Perhaps you should try looking at porn instead?
I'm reliably informed this is very good for flying the Japanese flag.

[nova]

I just cant not get an erection looking at a computer monitor with my whole studio on screen..

Perhaps you should try looking at porn instead?
I'm reliably informed this is very good for flying the Japanese flag.

:lol: fecking hell