How Important Is Money In The Creative Sense ?

[slavestudios]

we all know money makes the world go round :roll:

but how relevant do you peeps think it is to the creative part of writing ?

do you think it helps or hinders the process if there is a contract behind it or a fee in the balance ?



i have hugely complex (and quite frankly dull) ideas on this subject, but i'll not bore, suffice to say i dont think there is anyone who uses this forum who works for money first & foremost.

i personally believe the ppl here are in it for love. if you can pay the rent, excellent, but i believe almost all here would continue in some aspect if the money was removed form the world of techno.



whats your thoughts chaps ? and chapesses (sp?)



thanx for reading ;)

[davethedrummer]

well obviously i'm in it for the cash
the fast cars
stretch limos
endless amounts of booze and drugs
a huge mansion in countryside with my own personal duck pond

that kind of thing

[dirty_bass]

hehe
on a serious note, personally, the love was there first.
However, as Burroughs said, no good writing is ever done on an empty stomach, and getting paid fairly for your work is no worse to ask than the poor girl at Asda workin on the till.
But if money is your only drive, then in my own philosphy, you are no better than any of the other millions of lifeless consumers out there.

[dan the acid man]

huh duckpond, im keeping it real, ive got a puddle :lol:


having never been put in the situation of having to write some music witha contract over my head,d emanding i have something ready by such a date, i cant really answer this question.

But ii'll guess it can play on your mind and put pressure on you when you dont need it, it would probably hinder me anway

[Tyrisia]

I think writin good music should be the biggest buzz, and, hey, if u get a deal outta it, that's a bonus, but it would only be a bonus and not the motivation, for me anyways.

music is an expression of one's inner self, if people like it and it makes money, that's more beer tokens. But the concept that i would have to write a tune in a style that i was not happy with, just to pay the bills, would not appeal to me at all (unless we're talkin a couple of million, i could put meself out for that i reckon :) )

the whole world has gone consumer crazy, and that has never been what techno's about to me, therefore it has always been my escape from the insanity of our society, if u see what i mean.

[davethedrummer]

I think writin good music should be the biggest buzz, and, hey, if u get a deal outta it, that's a bonus, but it would only be a bonus and not the motivation, for me anyways.

music is an expression of one's inner self, if people like it and it makes money, that's more beer tokens. But the concept that i would have to write a tune in a style that i was not happy with, just to pay the bills, would not appeal to me at all (unless we're talkin a couple of million, i could put meself out for that i reckon :) )

the whole world has gone consumer crazy, and that has never been what techno's about to me, therefore it has always been my escape from the insanity of our society, if u see what i mean.

the whole world has always been consumer crazy

[Evil G]

i think it's important to note that the music doesn't sell itself. writing music that you think consumers want to buy *is* selling out, but writing the music you love, and then following through with an effort to get it into the hands of people who might like it is not.

the world is big and small at the same time. if only one in a million people is into your sound, you can still sell thousands of copies if you figure out how to get it to like minded people.

[dirty_bass]

oh hang on, I didn`t fully answer the question.
Well, how does it effect the creative process?
Hmm, sometimes a deadline or a contract can focus and help you, sometimes it can make you do anything just to get it done.
I`ve had several labels ask me for stuff I just couldn`t make because I wasn`t feelin it at the time, so rather than force it, I just said sorry, I`m not gonna send you crap I`ve rushed out, if I do get anything done in that style I¬ll send it to you, sorry for the trouble.
I can easily see how you can get into a breadline rut though, and just churn out stuff for the dollar. I hope I never get to that though.

[dan the acid man]

oh hang on, I didn`t fully answer the question.
Well, how does it effect the creative process?
Hmm, sometimes a deadline or a contract can focus and help you, sometimes it can make you do anything just to get it done.
I`ve had several labels ask me for stuff I just couldn`t make because I wasn`t feelin it at the time, so rather than force it, I just said sorry, I`m not gonna send you crap I`ve rushed out, if I do get anything done in that style I¬ll send it to you, sorry for the trouble.
I can easily see how you can get into a breadline rut though, and just churn out stuff for the dollar. I hope I never get to that though.

so that remix of the crazy frog is out of the question now then, damn it

anybody else want to do it

[Tyrisia]

oh hang on, I didn`t fully answer the question.
Well, how does it effect the creative process?
Hmm, sometimes a deadline or a contract can focus and help you, sometimes it can make you do anything just to get it done.
I`ve had several labels ask me for stuff I just couldn`t make because I wasn`t feelin it at the time, so rather than force it, I just said sorry, I`m not gonna send you crap I`ve rushed out, if I do get anything done in that style I¬ll send it to you, sorry for the trouble.
I can easily see how you can get into a breadline rut though, and just churn out stuff for the dollar. I hope I never get to that though.

so that remix of the crazy frog is out of the question now then, damn it

anybody else want to do it

he did make a few million, didn't he? :hmm:

[Komplex]

You need money to support something you love.

As a musician you want to grow and you need more skills and better tools to apply those skills. More importantly, you need more time to progress, learn and create. If you receive more money it will give you more time to do what you do best instead of wasting that time to make money in a job which you only do for money alone (and getting nowhere at the same time)...

Music itself is the joy, money is the supporting factor. If you take that out, you don't have music. It's a simple principle in our advanced society and there is no changing it. We're not living in caves anymore...

[Tyrisia]

aaahhhh, big shiny red 3 grand valve compressor, loadsa beer - doh

[DJAmok]

Money? bah.

It's all about the ho's :lol: That's why men make music, that's why they have been making music since the dawn of man. So they can get babes that others can't. And after all these years.... it still works ;)

[Tyrisia]

ho's, what the hell are they, i've never seen them advertised in Computer Music :lol:

is that a new name for a focusrite parametric????

[Komplex]

Money? bah.

It's all about the ho's :lol: That's why men make music, that's why they have been making music since the dawn of man. So they can get babes that others can't. And after all these years.... it still works ;)

:lol:

[Tyrisia]

Money? bah.

It's all about the ho's :lol: That's why men make music, that's why they have been making music since the dawn of man. So they can get babes that others can't. And after all these years.... it still works ;)

:lol:

but the lad has definitely got his prioritys right

[dirty_bass]

Money? bah.

It's all about the ho's :lol: That's why men make music, that's why they have been making music since the dawn of man. So they can get babes that others can't. And after all these years.... it still works ;)

What if you`ve got ya girl?
I`m happy with mine, and I think EG has a rather lovely missus, so I`m pretty sure he ain`t in it for the ho`s.

[Tyrisia]

some of us are luckier than others it seems

[davethedrummer]

personally i'm in it for the hose too
i got paid in ten metres of garden hose last week
lovely...
just right for the duck pond really...

[dan the acid man]

you'll be wanting sprinklers next, what ever is the world coming to