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**Hakka** · 11-10-2005, 10:28 PM

Let me know your thoughts. I personally think he is a poor choice. He may be a creative player with great ability but I don't think he's a good Captain. Just listening to his voice is anoying enough!

**macca** · 11-10-2005, 10:34 PM

nope defo not toss up between terry an gerrard 4 me both have leadership qualitys ;)

**nick_anarchy** · 11-10-2005, 10:39 PM

john terry all the way , for me he is th eonly player in the england squad who has the leadership qualitys and who can play at a top level in any big game shear class .... apart from that i would say gart neville hes utd vice captain and is a bit person to motervate players , ppl mat slag him off from time to time but he is one player who will motervate and talk on the pitch unlike every one else ...

gerrard , lampard , beckham , owen and the rest aint realy big game players and dont perform to their best each game unlike terry

**macca** · 11-10-2005, 10:46 PM

Originally Posted by nick_anarchy

john terry all the way , for me he is th eonly player in the england squad who has the leadership qualitys and who can play at a top level in any big game shear class .... apart from that i would say gart neville hes utd vice captain and is a bit person to motervate players , ppl mat slag him off from time to time but he is one player who will motervate and talk on the pitch unlike every one else ...

gerrard , lampard , beckham , owen and the rest aint realy big game players and dont perform to their best each game unlike terry

how u named neville be 4 lampard an gerrard an even owen i dont no neville is a big no no

**macca** · 11-10-2005, 10:48 PM

hes just another bad option like beckham there both wimps

**Traxx** · 11-10-2005, 10:53 PM

I wouldnt take it off him.

**nick_anarchy** · 11-10-2005, 11:09 PM

why is it macca .. u tell me .. neville can offer more in leadership , motervation and he helps the young players , the experience he has at the top level is the best in the england team , he knows what it takes to win things and has fat more determanation than at lot of the england lot ..

gerrard dont allways show hes qualitys he hide's away in big games hes not as good as ppl make out and he aint done it for england let along done much for liverpool .. ppl say he carrys liverpool haha that makes me laugh he no way as godo as ppl make out , lampard on the other hand is a clas splayer but is no way good enuff and has no leadership qualitys for england

u need plsyers who are willing to speak , shout and when thngs are bad give the team a lift with speach i bet if u asked any england player gary neville is prob the one who speaks most i know for a fat he is the big speaker for utd and helps players out when in need

**Traxx** · 11-10-2005, 11:29 PM

Originally Posted by nick_anarchy

gerrard dont allways show hes qualitys he hide's away in big games hes not as good as ppl make out and he aint done it for england let along done much for liverpool .. ppl say he carrys liverpool haha that makes me laugh he no way as godo as ppl make out , lampard on the other hand is a clas splayer but is no way good enuff and has no leadership qualitys for england

Hahaha funny thing is your not even joking.

**phantomdj** · 12-10-2005, 08:47 AM

Originally Posted by nick_anarchy

why is it macca .. u tell me .. neville can offer more in leadership , motervation and he helps the young players , the experience he has at the top level is the best in the england team , he knows what it takes to win things and has fat more determanation than at lot of the england lot ..

gerrard dont allways show hes qualitys he hide's away in big games hes not as good as ppl make out and he aint done it for england let along done much for liverpool .. ppl say he carrys liverpool haha that makes me laugh he no way as godo as ppl make out , lampard on the other hand is a clas splayer but is no way good enuff and has no leadership qualitys for england

u need plsyers who are willing to speak , shout and when thngs are bad give the team a lift with speach i bet if u asked any england player gary neville is prob the one who speaks most i know for a fat he is the big speaker for utd and helps players out when in need

what are you on about nick? if gerrard hides away, then its in the smaller games NOT the big games!!! what matches are you watching? and if we are talking about the england performances, then we already discussed why everyone is playing so badly... a defender? well how can they play badly? there is not much difference in the tactics of defending

**lukekendall** · 12-10-2005, 09:23 AM

Terry all the way :clap:

and what the **** is owen doing as vice captain?!??!?!?

Its funny everyone says about player power but beckham and owen are the only people to ever really back sven and they are captain and vice??? beckham should never be captain

none of them would ever captain club teams so why international

**french_og** · 12-10-2005, 10:16 AM

I always prefere a Central defender as Captain, think they are in the better position.

Terry, Campbell would make a good captains but think on the pitch they probably act that way anyway.

Beckham has done quite well as captain i think but out on the right cannot see the game as well. Also as one of our best players I wouldn't mind seeing him just being left to concentrate on his game. Think Beckham though likes the media attension which goes with being England Captain.

**nick_anarchy** · 12-10-2005, 01:18 PM

Originally Posted by phantomdj

Originally Posted by nick_anarchy

why is it macca .. u tell me .. neville can offer more in leadership , motervation and he helps the young players , the experience he has at the top level is the best in the england team , he knows what it takes to win things and has fat more determanation than at lot of the england lot ..

gerrard dont allways show hes qualitys he hide's away in big games hes not as good as ppl make out and he aint done it for england let along done much for liverpool .. ppl say he carrys liverpool haha that makes me laugh he no way as godo as ppl make out , lampard on the other hand is a clas splayer but is no way good enuff and has no leadership qualitys for england

u need plsyers who are willing to speak , shout and when thngs are bad give the team a lift with speach i bet if u asked any england player gary neville is prob the one who speaks most i know for a fat he is the big speaker for utd and helps players out when in need

what are you on about nick? if gerrard hides away, then its in the smaller games NOT the big games!!! what matches are you watching? and if we are talking about the england performances, then we already discussed why everyone is playing so badly... a defender? well how can they play badly? there is not much difference in the tactics of defending

so your telling me gerrard shows his worth in every game he plays get real he hardly do anythink ppl big him up before games hes not as good as ppl make out and he hides away yes he does FACT if he didnt he would be showing hiw worth in every blade of grass shows ppl hes around he dont do that all he does it give these long 40/50 years balls and thats all .. o he might go on a run once in a game but thats it for england hes a bag of shite !

**Esox Lucius** · 12-10-2005, 02:18 PM

give it to crouch!! might make you even shitter than you already are!

**basslinejunkie** · 12-10-2005, 02:21 PM

Originally Posted by nick_anarchy

Originally Posted by phantomdj

Originally Posted by nick_anarchy

why is it macca .. u tell me .. neville can offer more in leadership , motervation and he helps the young players , the experience he has at the top level is the best in the england team , he knows what it takes to win things and has fat more determanation than at lot of the england lot ..

gerrard dont allways show hes qualitys he hide's away in big games hes not as good as ppl make out and he aint done it for england let along done much for liverpool .. ppl say he carrys liverpool haha that makes me laugh he no way as godo as ppl make out , lampard on the other hand is a clas splayer but is no way good enuff and has no leadership qualitys for england

u need plsyers who are willing to speak , shout and when thngs are bad give the team a lift with speach i bet if u asked any england player gary neville is prob the one who speaks most i know for a fat he is the big speaker for utd and helps players out when in need

what are you on about nick? if gerrard hides away, then its in the smaller games NOT the big games!!! what matches are you watching? and if we are talking about the england performances, then we already discussed why everyone is playing so badly... a defender? well how can they play badly? there is not much difference in the tactics of defending

so your telling me gerrard shows his worth in every game he plays get real he hardly do anythink ppl big him up before games hes not as good as ppl make out and he hides away yes he does FACT if he didnt he would be showing hiw worth in every blade of grass shows ppl hes around he dont do that all he does it give these long 40/50 years balls and thats all .. o he might go on a run once in a game but thats it for england hes a bag of shite !

of course he doesnt do it in every game,its called being human you ****in plantpot :!:

**Esox Lucius** · 12-10-2005, 02:28 PM

see nothing changes then, kopites & mancs still arguing even if it is an international thread hahaha

**nick_anarchy** · 12-10-2005, 02:35 PM

Originally Posted by basslinejunkie

Originally Posted by nick_anarchy

Originally Posted by phantomdj

Originally Posted by nick_anarchy

why is it macca .. u tell me .. neville can offer more in leadership , motervation and he helps the young players , the experience he has at the top level is the best in the england team , he knows what it takes to win things and has fat more determanation than at lot of the england lot ..

gerrard dont allways show hes qualitys he hide's away in big games hes not as good as ppl make out and he aint done it for england let along done much for liverpool .. ppl say he carrys liverpool haha that makes me laugh he no way as godo as ppl make out , lampard on the other hand is a clas splayer but is no way good enuff and has no leadership qualitys for england

u need plsyers who are willing to speak , shout and when thngs are bad give the team a lift with speach i bet if u asked any england player gary neville is prob the one who speaks most i know for a fat he is the big speaker for utd and helps players out when in need

what are you on about nick? if gerrard hides away, then its in the smaller games NOT the big games!!! what matches are you watching? and if we are talking about the england performances, then we already discussed why everyone is playing so badly... a defender? well how can they play badly? there is not much difference in the tactics of defending

so your telling me gerrard shows his worth in every game he plays get real he hardly do anythink ppl big him up before games hes not as good as ppl make out and he hides away yes he does FACT if he didnt he would be showing hiw worth in every blade of grass shows ppl hes around he dont do that all he does it give these long 40/50 years balls and thats all .. o he might go on a run once in a game but thats it for england hes a bag of shite !

of course he doesnt do it in every game,its called being human you ****in plantpot :!:

haha tbh ttho no point in me carrying on u all think the sun shines from his arse no mater how well he plays

**jam** · 12-10-2005, 05:51 PM

To be fair i don't think Beckham is a bad captain,he is a player everyone looks up to and respects and he is passionate about it.However i believe John Terry is the perfect choice for England captain he is a true leader.Gerrard just doesn't do enough,he doesn't bring the game by the scruff of the neck like say Beckham can at times,so i don't think he is a very good choice at this moment in time but maybe in the future.

oh and Macca Gary Neville would make a great captain,he is by far Englands most consistent player who has got better with age.He is the one who seems to organise the defence,he is vocal,a 100% player with a class work rate and he also gets forward and plays in some great crosses.

My choices are Terry,Beckham,Neville,Gerrard.

**phantomdj** · 12-10-2005, 06:09 PM

Originally Posted by Esox Lucius

see nothing changes then, kopites & mancs still arguing even if it is an international thread hahaha

mancs are just far too jealous, but if we talk about keane... then they even think of him as the creator of the world

**nick_anarchy** · 12-10-2005, 06:46 PM

Originally Posted by phantomdj

Originally Posted by Esox Lucius

see nothing changes then, kopites & mancs still arguing even if it is an international thread hahaha

mancs are just far too jealous, but if we talk about keane... then they even think of him as the creator of the world

haha take it u cant see what hes dont for manchester united then dan ??
he made utd what thay have been sicne he joined , he is th eonly player with his temperment no other player has it and tbh i dont think any other player can have it " creater of the world " u only wsh liverpool had such a player

**Esox Lucius** · 12-10-2005, 06:53 PM

Originally Posted by phantomdj

Originally Posted by Esox Lucius

see nothing changes then, kopites & mancs still arguing even if it is an international thread hahaha

mancs are just far too jealous, but if we talk about keane... then they even think of him as the creator of the world

jealous of what, being mid table? :lol:

5 european cups etc etc zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

dont mention everton's position

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