Jeff Mills ??? ( 1

16-10-2002, 08:01 PM

I'm just not impressed with Mills. I heard a set of his on Radio 1 about 3 months ago and it was awful. Then I heard he played a terrible set up in Scotland the following weekend.

I used to think Mills was god. The early UR stuff was amazing and Waveform 1+3 blew me away. I'll never forget what he did to me when I first saw him DJ at Tribal Gathering.

But times move on and so do people's taste in music. I haven't ruled him out, but he's just not my bag anymore.

**Esox Lucius** · 16-10-2002, 08:28 PM

Never seen him either, not the biggest fan of his productions... like the bells & ufo but thats it really.

Yeah that mix on radio1 was terrible and I have heard that he has been playing rubbish recently, but I have also been told that he has been playing brilliant???? don`t know which one is true... if his john peel mix is anything to go by then he must be playing bad.

**aggressor** · 16-10-2002, 11:12 PM

moments of brilliance

moments of absolute tosh

lots of "flogging a dead horse"

Mills do something to impress me again, stop living on past glory.

**Esox Lucius** · 16-10-2002, 11:34 PM

aggressor, are you the dj aggressor, who used to play at a few raves?

**aggressor** · 16-10-2002, 11:38 PM

yeh - that's me.....hello

**eyes without a face** · 17-10-2002, 06:31 AM

wots peoples opinions on Millsy? ive never seen him altho i love Liquid Rooms and ive been making a track today thats been sounding millsy i.e atmospheric, melodic but still retaining that hard distant kick sound,

hes playing soon in Bugged out so that should b quite fun

**Esox Lucius** · 17-10-2002, 03:02 PM

I used to be a big fan of yours, haven`t heard much from you recently...where do you play now?

**aggressor** · 18-10-2002, 12:28 AM

nice to hear that you enjoyed my sets...

bookings please!!!!!!!!!!!

**CLoaX** · 18-10-2002, 01:37 AM

from the sets i've gotten from him this past year, he's been hit or miss. there are quite a few blatant mistakes in some of the sets. I respect the 3 deck wizardry, but when it aint working for ya... pull out. that, and my only other complaint is to freakin retire "the bells" and "knights of the jaguar". why must he play them in EVERY single set.

the 3 constants of life - death, taxes, and mills dropping the bells and jaguar.

best,

CLoaX
"I don't have to take this abuse from you, I've got hundreds of people dying to abuse me."

**Esox Lucius** · 18-10-2002, 01:47 AM

the bells is a classic track though.

**DJAmok** · 18-10-2002, 02:06 AM

Well, I´m not really into his new style that much, but he´s definately a great DJ. Waveform 1 is still one of my favorites.

...And I´ve been looking for that last track of his I Love Techno 99 Mix Set for years now and still haven´t found out the name

**DJPAUZE** · 28-11-2002, 02:32 AM

I know all of the true techno purists would rip my head off for this but heres my say.

MILLS-OLD F***ING SCHOOL-dude the guys done ALOT for techno. so be it. He has done a thing in the last little while that turned my head even one bit.

I have heard a mountain of bad stories about mr mills and his hollywood attitude and i frankly think it stinks.

There are a mountain of detroit techno guys still around playing at MOUNTAINS of parties. I say "YOU ALL SUCK". Retire somewhere and let some of the NEW BREED of techno producers show you how this game is played.

And yes i have seen mills play in Toronto Canada at industry, HE SUCKED ASS, i have heard his set at LIQUID ROOM, its not even worth the cd its pressed on.

Man that was some pretty negative feedback, no?

damn................

Pauze

**krakp0t** · 28-11-2002, 02:52 AM

i've seen jeff mills many times over the past few years and i've never ever been disapointed by him. there are very, very few djs that are both excellent producers and djs.

**miromiric.** · 28-11-2002, 04:10 AM

he taught us about minimalism

his production is still pushing over the edge

but his dj sets are like a 16 years old kid who is trying to succeed in the world of music at all costs. i mean, doesn`t he get bored of playin` bells in every set? 3-4 sets a week, 6-7 bells a week, let`s say about 25-30 bells a month, etc. for years now. what is he trying to prove with his sets? i dunno.

**Sam1978** · 28-11-2002, 06:13 PM

He's lost that magic spark these days. No way near as good as he used to be.

But Jeff Mills from 1994 - 1996 was probably the greatest techno DJ that has ever graced the decks. Not one DJ over the years has matched the intensity that man achieved on the decks when he was at his peak back then.

When he's bad, he's bitterly disappointing. When's he at his best, he's untouchable.

**Esox Lucius** · 28-11-2002, 06:30 PM

krakpot ~ yes there is!

ben sims ~ excellent producer, genius dj.

surgeon ~ the same

Dave Clarke ~ the same

Adam Beyer ~ the same

**gunjack** · 28-11-2002, 11:06 PM

i saw jeff in october in japan and he rocked. you guys need to chill.

**DJZeMig_L** · 29-11-2002, 07:43 AM

Although U can have several examples I have 2 agree that u rarelly find some1 who is both a good DJ & Producer.

Has 2 Mr. Mills I have 2 say that I saw him recently in Lisbon and I must stress that he played a lot of new stuff, almost none of his tracks (exept if they were unreleased), no Bells, he played a lot slower than the usual hard paced, fast' n' furious were used 2!! But still I think he really had something going... The crowd wasn't really moving and I'm sure they would have just left if it was some1 else djing... BUT shouldn't we congratula-te him 4 showing something different, new ways no sounds, don't we always complain that crowds ain't that open minded!?! Than I guess we should b happy that some1 can show' em something a little different!!

I felt he could have donne a little more, he could had been a little more intense at times.

BUT I realise he lives all trends, music/ Djing/ prodution etc.. and a 10 fold fater rate than us!! So he is a step in front of us... DON'T get me wrong I'm not trying 2 say he's the future and he are just not inteligent enought.. I'm just saying he is going 4 other things, still that's not what I admire, but I do admire the fact that he does not follow trends or really worrie 'bout them... He does what the hell he wants having only 1 rule, staying true 2 himself, He's not looking for approval or anything, he also doesn't expect 2 b looked at has the innovator. He is an extraordinary concerned and aware person, I have never had any1 thank me so much 4 a promo, and I'm preaty sure he had no clue who the fu** I was.

He just wants 2 keep being able 2 do what he loves, if others like it or not is just a bonus!!

So, I do agree he's not playing and Djing the way he used 2, but is that necessarily bad? I prefered the "old" Mills but I have the highest respect 4 this man! And I make sure I pay close atention 2 what he has 2 say!!

Wouldn't we b congratulating him if we liked what he was playing but every1 else didn't! Wouldn't we b saying that his got Bal** 4 not straying his path!?

My 2 cents,

Z

**krakp0t** · 30-11-2002, 03:13 AM

beyer - dull at best these days. not as inventive as mills.

surgeon - totally lost his edge as a dj. saw him play here in nyc a few weeks ago and was sorely disappointed to hear him play the same set i'd heard thet last time he was in new york over a year ago.

sims - ok but highly overrated as a dj. doesn't bring the 909-ings.

yada yada. glenn wilson might come close but he usually (or exclusively) does live sets. if it weren't for jeff, most of the younger generation would sound completely different.

**Esox Lucius** · 30-11-2002, 09:14 PM

sims overrated, shut up you muppet, he is consistantly better than mills.

maybe it`s because you live in america & your techno scene is tiny...you don`t get to see dj`s like sims & surgeon very often.

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