Time for change???

[MARKEG]

OK listen guys, I personally reckon it's time for a change. Jeff Mills/Richie Hawtin yawn yawn. Great and I wet myself every time I hear Waveform III but yawn yawn. We've all read the other posts of new artists etc etc. But how would you all describe the way you think techno/new music should go? I'm talking about the dancefloor. Not experimental shit.

Let me know ppl. Radically. We need to talk about this.

[davethedrummer]

we need better computers
and better programs
everything is still so alien
it needs to be more interactive so you can be quicker
i hate all this chopping loops and filing and folders and all that crap
that's not music that's being a librarian!
i don't want to be a librarian i want to create at the same speed my mind works (and when it works)
i'm gonna plug in all my synths/drum machines and make some proper live techno!!!!!

[crime]

we need better computers
and better programs
everything is still so alien
it needs to be more interactive so you can be quicker
i hate all this chopping loops and filing and folders and all that crap
that's not music that's being a librarian!
i don't want to be a librarian i want to create at the same speed my mind works (and when it works)
i'm gonna plug in all my synths/drum machines and make some proper live techno!!!!!

I hate using shitty sample utilities to put samples in my s3000, and I don't have a zip drive for it, so I never really use it unless I'm doing a remix or something...
this is probably why I've stuck to being more synth based...

[kss]

It's a pity programmers don't write music!!! - Otherwise we probably would have those sorts of programs..........

What's needed is a better interface for dynamic control of sound generation - how this could be done I don't know!!!

[MARKEG]

we need those speech recognition programers to write a prog so we can turn our thoughts or our certain commands into music!!!

[davethedrummer]

yes yes
what about

"der der dum da der der dum da!!! atr atra rrraattttaaaaasssssssssshhhhhhhing!"


somthing please turn this into music

[DJAmok]

we need those speech recognition programers to write a prog so we can turn our thoughts or our certain commands into music!!!

and we need a program that'll convert mindwaves to music. 8)



Back on topic: I believe it remains yet to be seen where techno is going. Personally I'd like to see the new German Hardtechno make it big, but I´m not so sure that´s likely to happen.

How I´d like techno to be? I´m not sure how to do it, but techno needs more energy and 'feeling'. Some of us try and get more energy in there by making our tracks faster and harder, but I´m starting to realise this alone won´t do the trick. I know for sure that simple looptechno won´t have a future, people want more than just a drumloop and a stab these days. So we gotta try to put some more emotion in our tracks. Easy as this may be said, this is a shitload of work and I´m not sure if I´m up to the task myself. But I´m trying. Got nothin better to do anyways

[The Divide]

I am not sure if I would want it to go in one particual direction or sound a certain way. I personally would like to hear more dark tracks, stuff with synths but not sounding like pop. I like 4/4 tracks but would like to hear less offbeat open hi hats n rides and more randomised rythm. Big textures and sounds that stick out, all driven by hard reverberating kicks. Well something like that.

[DJAmok]

Sounds like Arkus P. Check his stuff out.

[RichieV]

my beef with techno is the lack of bassline

I just can't feel a groove with techno

[Adverse]

OK listen guys, I personally reckon it's time for a change. Jeff Mills/Richie Hawtin yawn yawn. Great and I wet myself every time I hear Waveform III but yawn yawn. We've all read the other posts of new artists etc etc. But how would you all describe the way you think techno/new music should go? I'm talking about the dancefloor. Not experimental shit.

Let me know ppl. Radically. We need to talk about this.

why is there no room for experimentation.. i mean, isn't that killing the platform right there?

[Esox Lucius]

without experamation, the genre might aswell be dead!

I think there is far too much OTT hard techno around, people are forgetting about the funk...we need more funk back in the music.

[Adverse]

'I'm talking about the dancefloor. Not experimental shit.'

... i'm so stumped here.

[Jimfish]

richie: dude, there are plenty of techno tracks with defined basslines..
and yeah... funk...

[RichieV]

i'm sure there is

It is just that everytime i hear a techno dj in my town , they play the kind of stuff that sounds like a continuous loop without bass.

absolutely horrible in my opinion.
Dance music is about bass.

[Jimfish]

hmmm, whack djs

[Jimfish]

i work on lots of different kinds of music and techno is defo one of the bassiest...

[Jimfish]

certainly much bassier than trance or hard house/core and stuff.
granted somtimes the basslines are not so defined in the mix, but there should be tonnes of mash up sound on the bottom end in these cases..

[RichieV]

i also think most techno needs a better back beat.
Things just seem to groove better with a back beat

i'm a trance guy tho so what do i know.

well since i'm on my beef with techno and sharing some ideas of what might make it better, i might as well get it all out

most techno sounds too loose. It would be like comparing a 60s jazz drumset to the jazz recorded today. The later being alot tighter( sorry for the drum references, i used to be a drum fanatic) . I would like techno alot more if the sound was alot tighter and compressed.

Another thing in techno i can't stand hearing is the 909 clap unprocessed. It sounds so boring. Again my opinion. Has the sound of techno evolved at all since the last 5 years? Seems alot of guys still use those outdated over played unprossed 909 sounds.

Finally i find most techno too straight. I think it would sound better if the hihats were swung or something making it groove a little more.

[RichieV]

has anyone heard Drama - Marcel Woods

This is my idea of where techno should be going