why are some of the bigger uk labels so poor?

**massplanck** · 25-12-2005, 02:17 AM

werd.

**machina** · 25-12-2005, 04:28 AM

so do you guys consider 'strings of life' to be techno?

machina

**machina** · 25-12-2005, 08:52 AM

take the early detroit stuff - say 'strings of life' or some of the model 500 stuff, and then take a glenn wilson track, a early mills track, a sven wittekind track, a carl craig track, a dave angel funky track - they're all techno in my book, but they are pretty ****en different... throw in the surgeon/bmb/grovskopa/luka b industrial take on it - and it's a pretty wide genre on music... compared to dnb or hard trance or NRG or whatever...

machina

**Ritzi Lee** · 25-12-2005, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by machina

take the early detroit stuff - say 'strings of life' or some of the model 500 stuff, and then take a glenn wilson track, a early mills track, a sven wittekind track, a carl craig track, a dave angel funky track - they're all techno in my book, but they are pretty **** different... throw in the surgeon/bmb/grovskopa/luka b industrial take on it - and it's a pretty wide genre on music... compared to dnb or hard trance or NRG or whatever...

machina

Maybe different in sounds, but very much common in concept.
The concept of when a track sound techno or not.

**danielmarshall** · 25-12-2005, 01:07 PM

Originally Posted by massplanck

Originally Posted by machina

To me, the beauty of techno has always been that is has limitless possibilities -

Thats cock.

Its very limited.

I don't agree with either of you actually.

**massplanck** · 25-12-2005, 01:17 PM

i dont agree with you either.

**The Divide** · 25-12-2005, 01:36 PM

Club/hard techno is very limited as it has to be built in a way so it works for the DJ. Well that’s if you want it to be played by anyone but yourself :lol:

**The Divide** · 25-12-2005, 01:41 PM

Well saying that, thats not sometrhing I personally agree with I can see way people this however think its more important to write for yourself and not for the cj. Its why I want to see ableton/ digital mixing take off as in theory people wont have play stuff thats regimented into a fprmat thats easy to mix

Right best go wrap me prezies!

**danielmarshall** · 25-12-2005, 01:54 PM

Originally Posted by massplanck

i dont agree with you either.

You can't mean me. Do you? Otherwise you're saying techno is very limited and boundless at the same time, which makes me very confused :P

**Mindful** · 25-12-2005, 04:33 PM

So whats your take on it DanielM?
You dont aggree that its limited and you dont agree that its limitless.
So whats the grey area that your speaking of?

Not trying to be argumentitive just wondering.

**massplanck** · 25-12-2005, 07:42 PM

Originally Posted by danielmarshall

Originally Posted by massplanck

i dont agree with you either.

You can't mean me. Do you? Otherwise you're saying techno is very limited and boundless at the same time, which makes me very confused :P

I agree with that too.

**massplanck** · 25-12-2005, 07:48 PM

Originally Posted by The Divide

Its why I want to see ableton/ digital mixing take off as in theory people wont have play stuff thats regimented into a fprmat thats easy to mix

!

Well I cant speak for anyone else but i have never had a problem mixing death metal + techno + illbient + ambient sounscapes & d'n'b together in my sets just using my vinyls. I just didnt keep buying the same type of music every week & saw beatmatching as just another tool as opposed to a rule set in stone. I'd find it harder to mix that stuff in abelton but it would prob be just easier for people now to 'aquire' a diverse range on music.. and **** it all togther using abeleton.

**The Divide** · 26-12-2005, 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by massplanck

Originally Posted by The Divide

Its why I want to see ableton/ digital mixing take off as in theory people wont have play stuff thats regimented into a fprmat thats easy to mix

!

Well I cant speak for anyone else but i have never had a problem mixing death metal + techno + illbient + ambient sounscapes & d'n'b together in my sets just using my vinyls.

Show off :lol:

**Miromiric** · 26-12-2005, 01:11 PM

is it time for new "you just got served" contest, like one between frankie bones and pacou?

**danielmarshall** · 26-12-2005, 01:22 PM

LOL sorry about the confusion. Well I suppose what I meant was that techno is not the panacea of artistic expression like some people make out, but it's also by no means (in my book anyway) "very limited" as put elsewhere. Techno like any form of music has areas where it strikes a particularly poinient note. Concepts regarding the future for example e.g. Jeff Mills work exceedingly well. But try discribing something like politics with techno and you'll find it's pretty limited. Not saying that music can't have a political slant, just that it's not the most effective medium. Other art forms like theatre, spoken word or film would probably better suite this category.

**Adey** · 26-12-2005, 04:49 PM

Si Begg's on Novamute. Nuff said.

**massplanck** · 27-12-2005, 04:30 AM

Originally Posted by The Divide

Show off :lol:

yeah danny i'm a big show off. **** u.

**The Overfiend** · 05-01-2006, 08:52 AM

fine line is different strokes for different folks
I don't think too many people can define keeping it real or what is real techno
despite what every one says there are some damn good producers out there right now
being forced by the general consumer to make bullshit
when you have someone who made a plethora of good releases and then makes minimal ask yourself
maybe this cat made a living off music and probably had no backup plan and has to adjust to the wave
as far as intec and all those other what would be considered commercial or cheese labels what most have to accept is that
there is an audience for that
the people who dont know any better of genuinely like that sound are going to go and buy that
and so are the dj's who play for the masses and say "hey a girl would really like this synth track over the average no kicks loop"
we as part of the machine need to push what we feel is real deal as hard as we can to at least be heard
if it works kudos to you if not you became part of the bigger schematics of things which integrally is education

**The Overfiend** · 10-01-2006, 02:49 AM

figures i say something that makes total sense and no one wants to take action just bitch and moan

**dirty_bass** · 10-01-2006, 02:56 AM

Somehwere along the way, I lost my hat.
I`m just gonna run back and see if I can find where I dropped it.
You guys go on ahead, I`ll catch you up.

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