why are some of the bigger uk labels so poor?

[el salvador]

intec for example release some really cheesy stuff and call it techno, then they have say it is the best of british ep.
other labels like nova mute have remixes of nitzer eb. maybe they do a nirvana remix next.
why dont they make real techno? are they not real techno labels?
maybe they have no idea what is happening on the techno scene.

[Mirsha]

Or maybe you just have too narrow a line of what is and isn't techno?

[el salvador]

maybe it is because it might take them such a long time to release a record, by the time it hits the dancefloor things have just moved on again. intec will probabley release a cave record when all the other labels have already realised his talent and surfed the hype all year.

[The Divide]

I could be wrong but I think they are doing it to sell techno sell in larger units by crossing over to a wider audience. Kind of reminds me of what happened to trance when it went more mainstream

As for the pop remixes, I think its unnecessary and that people at least try focus on building their own riffs instead of ripping various pop records (a lot of the german techno used to have some wickid riffs - Heckman, Schumacher, Johannes Hiel, Kramer, etc).

I don’t mind this kind of thing when its done on bootleg because at least its faceless. Also with something a little obscure it can work really well = like the Ben Sims – Manipulated rmixs and its Spanish Ta' bueno ya vocals. That Nitzer ebb rmx doesn’t seem too bad, I like it as I think it’s the kind of record which get younger people interested as they probably don’t know Nitzer ebb is. I do think theres a line tho, I mean if going to a techno club involved dancing around to pop records with a techno backbone I wouldn’t go. There is much better, more creative and exciting music out there...

[dirty_bass]

Nitzer Eb pop?

[Miromiric]

its not pop, but it is kind of cheesy :S

[mattboyslim]

nitzer ebb is an electronic music legend. whats the problem?

[Miromiric]

no problem mattboy, i just think its cheese, thats all.

[The Divide]

He was a legend, so was Micheal Jackson, Underworld, Salt and Pepper. Gorrilaz are pretty popular, someone should do a pop techno record with them. Hows abotu a Blur one, etc, etc

I feel a school disco coming on :)

[dirty_bass]

I don`t think Nitzer Ebb was ever pop. When they were in their good years I don`t remeber them being in the charts at all.
Nope, didn`t get played in any of the lager boy clubs from what I can remember.
It was on the more commercial end of the EBM scene though.
Hardly pop.

Someone already has done a gorillaz techno tune. It was weak.

[dirty_bass]

There`s nowt wrong wth a cheeky booty or nostalgic remix now and again, as long it is done well, and creatively.
If it`s just cookie cutter techno with "insert old pop sample here" then yeah, that`s shite.

[The Divide]

Yea I agree. I liked the salt and pepper remixes, cant remember what they were called tho. There was another one floating around the same time that had a vocal which sounded like a step aerobics instructor saying 'back 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 and back' :lol:

[The Divide]

I don`t think Nitzer Ebb was ever pop. When they were in their good years I don`t remeber them being in the charts at all.
Nope, didn`t get played in any of the lager boy clubs from what I can remember.
It was on the more commercial end of the EBM scene though.
Hardly pop.

Someone already has done a gorillaz techno tune. It was weak.

I never said it was i was referring to it as it was mentioned at the top of the thread

[Jay Pace]

There was another one floating around the same time that had a vocal which sounded like a step aerobics instructor saying 'back 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 and back' :lol:

Christ I remember that. ****ing awful stuff.

Novamute are a good label.

If they want to put out crossover stuff, fair play to 'em.
They are in the business of being in business after all.

[Patrick]

The Nitzer Ebb remixes on Novamute make perfect sense.
Novamute is a sub-label of Mute, and was set up to release the more electronic beat type stuff in '92(iirc). As Nitzer Ebb already had lots of albums & singles released on Mute, releasing "techno" remixes on their sub-label seems a reasonable and logical step.

[dirty_bass]

The Nitzer Ebb remixes on Novamute make perfect sense.
Novamute is a sub-label of Mute, and was set up to release the more electronic beat type stuff in '92(iirc). As Nitzer Ebb already had lots of albums & singles released on Mute, releasing "techno" remixes on their sub-label seems a reasonable and logical step.

Who asked you mr "takes a pointless argument and solves it by telling people the correct hostorical facts"
You`ve got the lurgey you have.

[el salvador]

if depeche mode are mute records then yes there is a connection to nitzer eb, but i would not call it techno personly. for me cheese does not equal techno, and nitzer eb was only an example. they are not the point to my thread here guys.

[Jay Pace]

Nights of the Jaguar was a cheesy record

A sublime record, but cheesy to many.

Doesn't mean that it isn't techno.

[eyeswithoutaface]

yeah bit of an odd one this, and i dont really see the connection. Intec is just Intec, like it or loathe it, and it doesnt really give an honest impression of what others may deem UK techno. In the slightest. It had some quality releases when it first started years back definately, but even they were not all Uk artists, its a british based label sure but it doesnt really represent UK techno. Novamute is just a quality label really, and there's nothing really cheesy about "join in the chant", its a classic record and seriously goes off EVERYTIME someone plays it

[Patrick]

The Nitzer Ebb remixes on Novamute make perfect sense.
Novamute is a sub-label of Mute, and was set up to release the more electronic beat type stuff in '92(iirc). As Nitzer Ebb already had lots of albums & singles released on Mute, releasing "techno" remixes on their sub-label seems a reasonable and logical step.

Who asked you mr "takes a pointless argument and solves it by telling people the correct hostorical facts"
You`ve got the lurgey you have.

:lol:
I know ! What was I thinking ?