Secrecy/Ableton/Loops/Death/Emotion/Techno

[massplanck]

nice topic title.


discuss.

[massplanck]

Seriously.

Whatever happened to the shroud of mystery surrounding techno & techno artists. Staring at a weird psedonym on a vinyl gave me such a hard on. - example A - Drexciya

Abelton- yeah i use it. like i use a toaster - occasionaly. whatever happened to breaking (your own) boundaries -i.e not using what everyone else uses or is pre packadged for you by some company?

Sampled Loops - as cliched as a hoover stab these days. Why bother with em? Convienient?

Death - very welcome within the techno scene *personally*. When it rots (its starting now) flowers should start growing out from its arse & eye sockets.. give it a few years though.

Emotion - fcuk its really non-existant these days.

Techno = loads of solitary dudes in their bedrooms clicking mice & assigning knobs.

Get the fcuk out. find 4 other kindred souls.. a big room. bring your machines & biscuit tins togther and forget about the rigidity of it all Scream & Squeeze it out.

That is the word of our lord massplank who is talking shite as usuall.

[dan the acid man]

:lol: :lol: just keep doing what your doing, and believe in yourself, and above all, enjoy it :techno:

[djshiva]

*giggle*

i loved seeing mad mike in the black ski mask, myself...

[module]

:lol:

get out more ;)

[djshiva]

can't. tear. myself. away. from. the. screen.

;)

[The Divide]

I would be happy to see it die only to come back with new fresh ideas and people thinking a little bit more out of the box. Im bored of it as it stands at the moment. Whenever I stick something old on it sounds much more imaginative. I dont think its all shite too, there’s some really good things happening in techno, just not in club/hard techno but in some random as **** weirdness. To be honest I don’t even like my own releases anymore, infact **** it. Its all shit and I quit

Steve you can have my babies :eyes: put them in that toaster over on your little island

[Ritzi Lee]

Seriously.

Whatever happened to the shroud of mystery surrounding techno & techno artists. Staring at a weird psedonym on a vinyl gave me such a hard on. - example A - Drexciya

Sometimes in a while i'm fortunatly still surprised about some music on vinyl. The same mystery when you hear something and you ask yourself "How the F*** did he managed this sound??" And most of the time it just takes me 1 or 2 seconds of my time to hear that the music om the record is made with standard patterns with nothing special extra...

Abelton- yeah i use it. like i use a toaster - occasionaly. whatever happened to breaking (your own) boundaries -i.e not using what everyone else uses or is pre packadged for you by some company?

I also use ableton. But I use it as a sequencer, and sometimes some audio tracks to edit samples like you're using a normal sampler. But not really to make complete tracks with it. That's why I started using hardware. Maybe it sounds corney because it's told here like 100.000 times, but the sounds you can create with hardware are a hundred times more inspirational and qualitative. It all depends on the little things in sculpturing a sound.

Sampled Loops - as cliched as a hoover stab these days. Why bother with em? Convienient?

It's always nice to explore loops when you're just beginning producing. When you still have to realise how to construct a rhythm. If you passed that stage, then go do your own thing if you want to produce something on vinyl.

Death - very welcome within the techno scene *personally*. When it rots (its starting now) flowers should start growing out from its arse & eye sockets.. give it a few years though.

Difficult... But like any evolution the bad apples always rot away, and the good seeds always survive.

Emotion - fairy nob goggles its really non-existant these days.

Techno = loads of solitary dudes in their bedrooms clicking mice & assigning knobs.

Get the fairy nob goggles out. find 4 other kindred souls.. a big room. bring your machines & biscuit tins togther and forget about the rigidity of it all Scream & Squeeze it out.

That is the word of our lord massplank who is talking shite as usuall.

Just stop fecking complaining, go out make some fecking great tunes and let me hear your stuff...

[RDR]

can't. tear. myself. away. from. the. screen.

;)

Good GOD! shiva's mind has been taken over by william shatner!

[RDR]

Secrecy

You aint seen me.... right.

/Ableton


Ahem - make my own loops and parts up. Its a tool not a limit - BTW you can make some cracking stuff with only a toaster.


/Loops/

If it works then it works.

Death

A natural occurance in everything

/Emotion

Plenty of emotion in my music... and lack of it too - cold and distant landscapes (detroit aimed for that too....its all a continuum)

/Techno

is just a word

[danielmarshall]

Secrecy

Exposure of techno don't worry me. I just wish I could feel more elitist for being into it still :lol:

Ableton

If DJ's aren't using this they're backward.

Loops

Are a great way to pay tribute to past work with your spin on top of them. I love taking a loop from something completely unrelated to techno and minipulating it until it is. Propperly aranged loop based dance music (stuff that's bounced into individule tracks, then edited in ACID or an equivelent application) can allow the artist to more freely manipulate and filter segments. I like to arrange stuff with looping in mind so after recording reverb tails etc. I can then move directly on to the second and third stage of production i.e. edits & mastering.

Death

sucks.

Emotion

is something sorely lacking in allot of techno. Why can't more producers think a little bit more allong the lines of Technasia or UR for a second? I listen to music to create an emotional responce within myself to the sounds I'm hearing, if it's only effecting me on a psycological level by phucking with my head and an intellectual level by giving me concepts to think about then it's not quite as satisfying.

Techno

is a sate of mind.


A very happy new year everybody!


Dan

* scampers off and searches for his lost pill *

[dirty_bass]

Secrecy/Ableton/Loops/Death/Emotion/Techno

Secrecy?

Irrelevant, the music is paramount, all other considerations are superfluous.

Ableton?
A fantastic tool for the creative mind, a loop churner for the clones.

Loops?
As valid as any other sound or instrument when used creatively, nearly all music is loop based, even rock. Verse chorus verse chorus etc, however, it`s all about perception.

Death?
The great unknown, nothing to be scared of. Be more scared of pain.

Emotion?
What is music without it? For me, pointless, unless I can feel some element of the creator in the music, then the music just sounds purely mechanical, in a bad way.
Emotion does not necessarily mean love and fluff. There are many emotions to explore.

Techno?
Many things to many people. Ambiguous term that is open to your own interpretation.
For me techno is electronic music, utilising the latest technology to create fresh, explorative music. It also means to me, tribal electronics.

Happy new year from one nerd to another.

[The Divide]

Secrecy/Ableton/Loops/Death/Emotion/Techno]


Secrecy

Probably adds to the perception of sound, hence why some people really do try and think up concept names, artwork, etc. Thats just a little icing the cake and is good for marketing or making something stand out. I guess the main reason its brought up here is because when you think back to when you 1st got into techno you thought it was something truelly amazing, it probably was. Now you know the mechanics behind whats seen the norm these days you probably feel a little less shock and awe

Ableton

Great for audio, not so great for midi. Just another fish in a vast sea of fishes.

Sampled Loops

Are boring and are one of the main the reasons why a lot of techno sounds the same combined with presets(imo)

Death

Yes. More evil out of the speakers please

Emotion

Is usually there when producers write their own bits instead of cut and paste someone else’s (see sampled loops)

Techno

Isn’t about technology as it used to be

[module]

quite frankly mass, seriously... get out more lol

its jus music.. not the end of the world.. someone needs to look at their own process at bit more closely i think.


life/death/loops/ableton... u know u can do Birdseye Waffles in a toaster lol



as for this 'hardware is better than blah blah blah' rubbish, i think you'll find its down to the carpenter, not his tools..

[module]

while i'm here...

Acid Pro 5... brilliant stuff... still my #1 when it comes to studio loop trax.

[The Divide]

[Mindful]

Secrecy.....

Cool....Better than brashness and safe with me.

Ableton......

Cool when combined with a creative mind and a brill tool that gives you the power to play your own music without having to get on a piece of vinl or forking out pisstaking amounts of cash for a decent CD deck.

Loops.....

Make some or use them creativley(or both)

Death.....

we shall see

Emotion....

as cool as logic(not the sequencing program alltho thats very cool too)

Techno.....

A great vessel for expressing emotion and/or logic and concept.
Also somthing ive argued about and made some good freinds thru.

This thread....

Rocks

[massplanck]

Secrecy/Ableton/Loops/Death/Emotion/Techno]


Secrecy

Probably adds to the perception of sound, hence why some people really do try and think up concept names, artwork, etc. Thats just a little icing the cake and is good for marketing or making something stand out. I guess the main reason its brought up here is because when you think back to when you 1st got into techno you thought it was something truelly amazing, it probably was. Now you know the mechanics behind whats seen the norm these days you probably feel a little less shock and awe

Ableton

Great for audio, not so great for midi. Just another fish in a vast sea of fishes.

Sampled Loops

Are boring and are one of the main the reasons why a lot of techno sounds the same combined with presets(imo)

Death

Yes. More evil out of the speakers please

Emotion

Is usually there when producers write their own bits instead of cut and paste someone else’s (see sampled loops)

Techno

Isn’t about technology as it used to be

:cheer: :thumbsup:

[Ritzi Lee]

Ableton

Great for audio, not so great for midi. Just another fish in a vast sea of fishes.

I would have to disagree with the argument of the mid part.

Techno

Isn’t about technology as it used to be

We are the ones to bring this back. There's a whole bunch of producers and freaks still making techno with the technology additude... Just think away all the commercials, distro regulations, obligations, and standards.. What's left is something pure.

[MARKEG]

well i love this topic!

Secrecy.....

Well the internet's changed all that my friends. There's still lots out there that you think - jesus who the HELL is this but then a quick 5 minute internet search and you've got their home address and their favorite dog breed. I think there is still a romantic aspect to facelessness that I really love but the plain fact is, if you're faceless I'd really love to see you make a life out of music - the mp3 gen changed all that for the techno industry.

Ableton......

A really, really beautiful piece of software. Hook it up rewired in Cubase or another sequencer and you really have alot of power. It's definitely got limits when used on it's own, but so has every piece of software. I think if you're serious about pushing musical limits, you need to constantly be looking at any type of sequencing software out there, trying it out, feeling the power of technology and using it in your production if it offers something new or different. recently i've actually gone back to some old versions of programs and tried to make tracks in them - you wouldn't believe how each version makes you think soooo different!

Loops.....

I love them. I spend hours on my outboard midi stuff just sampling and then making loops. I also spend hours collecting loops from sample CD's too. via a prog like ableton, it's soooo quick and easy. if you're simply importing someone else's loops and using the same 4 bar loop over a track this is so not techno but albeton makes it easy to not do that. Loop it from a different start point, transpose the **** out of it, use your fave effects over the top. man, this is just so hands on!

Death.....

Of techno? Well I hear too much good stuff every week to agree. I think the reason why ppl say year after year after year that techno is dying is cause they are losing interest, growing old. Well there's always someone else coming along to fill your shoes! You've got to evolve with the music, but that's what keeps it exciting! Sure I would give a right arm to be dancing to Analogue Bubble Bath 1 again but life moves on! It's a simple fact about music. Some ppl windge and grow old and then get dissilusioned and then move on but others accept there has to be change, sure we're p'ed off but hey, f it, i'll play the good stuff in my bedroom if i have to. until then, try your hardest to find the new thing!

Emotion....

Well it's why we're all in it ;)

Techno.....

Everything.

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