Turntablism...has it got a place in techno?

[Si the Sigh]

Scratching...your opinions?

Good?

http://www.djkeltech.com/video/Worlds_by_DJ_KELTECH.wmv :)

...or bad?

http://www.markta.co.uk/wankr/vid/dj_wankr.mpg :lol:

I've not heard many DJ's that scratch in techno to be honest, but what I have heard has been good. Always up for the cutting in sets, but is it possible to do a turntablist set with techno?

[dirty_bass]

I love creative turntablism, but personally, scratching is a noise I hate.
But yes, of course their is a place for it in techno.

[gumpy green]

hell yeh baby.......

check ma sig...

got a well good new technique going down that im working on now.,.... involving skracthgin and mashing fx on the track playing and triggering loops of the kp2....

db- what if someone cut a nice bassline up to make a good bassline over just a percussive loops....fair enuf you might not enjoy the sounds of ahhh and fresh but the right sound cutup well i think yad like.

[gumpy green]

turntabilsm aint just skratching i must point out.....

here some old examples-
http://www.diversefrequencies.co.uk/..._plus_cuts.mp3
http://www.diversefrequencies.co.uk/...h_fx_intro.mp3
http://www.diversefrequencies.co.uk/...ch_example.mp3

what we need is folks studying the shit and not just making a noise.....i cant name one good techno dj that does it proper musically style(proper rytmatic cuts).sure sum cut but thers cutting and cutting.

[Si the Sigh]

Loving that fake video clip I posted up... :lol:

[Si the Sigh]

Checking your sig vid Gumpy...

Cool! :)

[holotropik]

I reckon it does have a place and I would like to see more of it.....i would like to see more of something, anything!! rather than boring as batshit DJs playing tracks one after the other all the time.

[dirty_bass]

Well yeah, I love creative turntablism, and grumpy, you are one of the few doing it proper. I just hate wikka wikka wow scratching.
although when it gets right down to the point of laying parts together with vinyl, your basically just doing a very manual version of ableton.
not if ableton could be synced to final scratch, and you could swtich the decks to control various channels, then when a channel is running how you want it, then switch the deck to control another channel and so on. Man, that would be pretty cool.
There is a time to go barmy on the decks, and a time to let tunes just ride out.
A good DJ takes all the skills and does the best thing at the right time.

[gumpy green]

I reckon it does have a place and I would like to see more of it.....i would like to see more of something, anything!! rather than boring as batshit DJs playing tracks one after the other all the time.

yup and only playing the one style of techno too...

why not drop in some fun tracks as well but use the deks to "techno it up"

thats why i luv djs like shorkut, babu, them triple threat djs....and soo many other out ther i the hiphop field...

just ther at our night jakN i dropped "eye of the tiger" and cut a jakN vocal from a highball record over it...wasent the cleanest but the crowd luved it...some boy even started to do the rocky puch moves on the dancefloor...class....

if yav saw skracth the movie-that routine mixmaster mike does with a singing track(not sure what style0 over a elerto/hip hop groove...now thats what i wanna see..fuse it together.


db- spot on.....100%..like that idea of fs and ableton..wuid be well cool.

[gumpy green]

would luv to se sum record with baslines and noises tailored toward the techno sound....then i think this stuff could move forward easier...

im gonna make me own record sometime with samples and stuff i want ...but olny for me to have, wont be sellin em....

[Jay Pace]

Jerome Hill. Nuff said. Has a style of scratching that compliments his records, rather than just mess all over them.

Done sparingly at the right times its magnificent. If its over done you end up wanting to hit the dj with a tyre iron.

[Lujo]

I've not heard many DJ's that scratch in techno to be honest

Ben Long did it few times in Croatia,but like you sad not many do that.

I like that I acctualy admire to people who now that technic and mix her with techno.
Pretty good combination

[gumpy green]

Jerome Hill. Nuff said. Has a style of scratching that compliments his records, rather than just mess all over them.


Done sparingly at the right times its magnificent. If its over done you end up wanting to hit the dj with a tyre iron.

JH- used good sound and they do work very well put tbh they aint complex cuts that i wanna hear.....

i want complex rthmatic combos...not just a record movin back and forth with the odd stab.

polyrthmic skratching cutting a 3/4 time sig over a 4/4 record movment double timein the rythm of the record....now that is music.

[gumpy green]

that 3/4 time sig fader action over a 4/4 record movment @ double time the rythm of the record.

geez the edit funtion.

[Jay Pace]

Jerome Hill. Nuff said. Has a style of scratching that compliments his records, rather than just mess all over them.


Done sparingly at the right times its magnificent. If its over done you end up wanting to hit the dj with a tyre iron.

JH- used good sound and they do work very well put tbh they aint complex cuts that i wanna hear.....

Fair comment. Thing is, I want to hear techno, not scratching.
If scratching adds to it, so much the better.

Showboating doesn't do it for me. Just detracts from the groove. Techno is about hypnotic rhythmn, and unless the scratching adds to it, then its taking away.

Always liked scratching, but think it should complement, not take centre stage.

[barry_fyasko]

yeah i agree, whenu see hiphop turntablists doing their thing, its well impressive, but... id rather hear more of the records. constant chopping and scratching aint gonna get a dancefloor going

[Davin]

I feel that turntablism and exhibitionism in techno is always good to hear............not always necessary, but at the right times and with the right talent doin' it, sure I cant see why there shouldnt be more!!

I'm doing a Dj technique's course at the mo' in college and at the end of the year we will be hosting a battle of the dj comp. - each competitor will only be allowed 15 min's to show what they got, this really annoyed when i found as obviously for all the hip hop heads this was great news as for the techno, trance , and, other music styles in the class this was a slight problem!!!
However back to the turntablism point it will be a time lke this when I'll introduce exhibitionism into my set for this as well........................do I have a choice??? Dav

[Buttman]

"I'm doing a Dj technique's course at the mo' in college"

WHAT?
DJ course at college?
That is sick.

[marginmaster]

nice video mr green!

[loopdon]

Well yeah, I love creative turntablism, and grumpy, you are one of the few doing it proper. I just hate wikka wikka wow scratching.
although when it gets right down to the point of laying parts together with vinyl, your basically just doing a very manual version of ableton.
not if ableton could be synced to final scratch, and you could swtich the decks to control various channels, then when a channel is running how you want it, then switch the deck to control another channel and so on. Man, that would be pretty cool.
There is a time to go barmy on the decks, and a time to let tunes just ride out.
A good DJ takes all the skills and does the best thing at the right time.

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