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[earle]

quality thread, thanks

[loopdon]

Allready loving this thread!

Regarding your Kickdrum technique i thought i would add to this by
posting something i found on trance.nu. I think it was Airwave who posted it.


"Soooo, the main question everyone asks is "where do you find your banging bass drums? which sample cd's?"

Explanation:

I use exactly the same sample material as you do. I just use it a little differently.
For a good sounding kick, try the following:

1) select a good sounding bass drum that has good power in the midtones. when selected, look at the waveform, take the highest point and put the beginning of your sample play there (it results in a 1khz clip you can't get with eq). when done, trim the kick, then remove the low freqs (let's say up to 500hz).

2) select another kick (808 style for example) with much low freqs, and remove the treble till 1khz.

3) put them in your arrange window and make a loop with them, both playing at the same time. Then put a delay on the lower kick, just 2 or 3 milliseconds.

4) merge them into one sample (kicks are always mono), if needed resample/rerecord the result.

5) First compress the new kick, with a 11ms attack, treshold -10/15db, and ratio 4 or 5:1, and NO release

6) eq it if needed (most of the time you won't have to)

7) you got a new bass drum, enjoy!!

[dan the acid man]

good tips so far, this meeds to be a sticky

[RDR]

Im interested in the seperation of sounds, steve could you state how you seperate sounds in the mix properly...

How about... is there any frequencies you really try to avoid?

Nice one for the tips, TBH I dont really use the verb tip very much unless im creating washing sounds scapes with crazy noises, i [personally] dont really like having too much bass action in the sub territory.... but like i said thats IMO...

;)

[eyeswithoutaface]

seriously that closing your eyes tip is spot on, nothing better for seperating the mix in your head than sitting back, getting bang in the middle of the monitors and just have a seriously hard listen to the mix, because we all know that after hours of sitting in front of the same mix that even the best mix can just end up really jumbled, especially after fatigue sets in

cracking tips Steve lad, i think this should be a sticky

[stjohn]

THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[dirty_bass]

5: Velocities:

Go back through your tune and check the velocities of the notes on each part.
Does each part have the same velocities on each note?
If so, try to vary the velocities from note to note, to “humanise” the part and make the mix more dynamic.

[fresh_an_funky_design]

5: Velocities:

Go back through your tune and check the velocities of the notes on each part.
Does each part have the same velocities on each note?
If so, try to vary the velocities from note to note, to “humanise” the part and make the mix more dynamic.

i dunno bout in cubase but in logic there's a feature to humanize ure midi events, just changes all the velocities slightly, you can adjust it to be as suttle or extreme as u like.

[DotMatrix]

great thread! thanks.

[FIK]

Great read. Cheers Bass

[messyfuture]

i was thinking about this last night as i was lying in bed

and then panning for the left rigth effect, and reverb and delay for the front back effect

but i'm sure you will get to this

spot on db

[loopdon]

really spot on!

just one little request - could you possibly lable your frequency pic with hz values approx? and what would you say is low bass, mid bass and high bass frequency-wise?

thanks :techno:

[log:one]

good lord, what a shockingly useful topic!!!

if i knew what the emoticon for applause was there would be about fifty thousand of the little blighters in this post.

respect.

[tekara]

im pretty sure everyone already does this, but i tend to always create custom project templates....

so when im lazy, i usually fire up a template with an audio track that is filled with reverb, distortion, and filters.. Then i just run my Virus through the track with all the effects on and scroll through the patches until i hear something interesting and go from there.

[tekara]

LOL

u know you are a techno nerd when your thinking about reverb and delay in bed.

i was thinking about this last night as i was lying in bed

and then panning for the left rigth effect, and reverb and delay for the front back effect

but i'm sure you will get to this

spot on db

:clap: :clap: :clap:

[loopdon]

then i am certainly guilty of techno nerdism as well :lol:

god, i don't even want to start to tell you...

but: isn't that the reason we are here :cheese:

[loopdon]

really spot on!

just one little request - could you possibly lable your frequency pic with hz values approx? and what would you say is low bass, mid bass and high bass frequency-wise?

thanks :techno:

I won`t label the pic with herz values as it is just a basic guide.
In fact when making music I rarely pay that much attention to the frequency value at all, I just use my ears, which at the end of the day is what it`s all about. I`d rather not encourage people to use numbers and values instead of their ears.
But yes, I will look into a rough frequency guid for splitting up Treble, Mid and bass.

i know it isn't about mixing by numbers... ;)

[stjohn]

on fire!!! :) i like the edits one.... usually i would just drop a kick or sound at points throughout the tune, marking it with the intention to go back and change it up.

keep it up horse!!!

[nova]

good tread

[loopdon]

i like the 'less is more one'... this is essential :)

and i know it's about ears but it can be helpful to make use of say voxengo gliss eq to see where spectra overly or poshifopit eq.

i'd luv to hear detailed stuff about use of reverb . this is so important. gotta get to grips with that.

plz go on, steve. i have tried to stickify this thread, btw, and Mark said i could but i failed misearbly :cheese:

so i will have to pm Mark again, methinks!