Schranz Is Not Hard Techno

[The Overfiend]

Get it right.
Schranz is not Hard Techno.
Hard Techno and Schranz.
Are Not The Same.

[Miromiric]

lol right

[asthma_man]

I'm glad you pointed that out.

[Numeric]

:lol:

word

[eyeswithoutaface]

now i see where ive been going wrong!

thanks Tony :)

[Mindful]

surely Its techno and its hard

[capone13]

I never get why people always get into a debate about this, personally I don't care if people class Schranz as Hard Techno, just my opinion. :)

They are very similar anyway or even the same in my view. :techno:

[koma]

let me quote Mario Ranieri... "f*ck schranz! call it hardtechno"


:lol:

[capone13]

let me quote Mario Ranieri... "f*ck schranz! call it hardtechno"


:lol:

Got that on CD. :cheese:

[The Overfiend]

You're quoting a Schranz producer.
How about asking Hard Techno artists how they feel about that.

[The Overfiend]

When Adam Beyer did this
http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF15953-01-01-01.mp3
http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF66215-01-02-01.mp3
Which I would consider hard techno.

Do you think that should be associated with
http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF219568-01-01-01.mp3
or
http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF217302-01-01-01.mp3

[The Overfiend]

let me quote Mario Ranieri... "f*ck schranz! call it hardtechno"


:lol:

I'm not the devil.
I'm just a fallen angel.

[koma]

Sam, look... who cares about the name?
either you like it or not..

for me, there is just more than one view on how should hard techno sound like
I mean, it deff wouldnt be good if hard techno still sounded like older Beyer releases, wouldn it?
with so many different producers and labels, sound changes

and of course there's lots of crap, we've been on that subject too much times already, wont go there.
I see on some other boards people praising poor releases, produced and/or mastered obviously by deaf people

but its the same in every genre
and I can't say all schranz is bad, cause from time to time I find some releases (from artists most people consider "schranz") that are good and work on the dancefloor..

will we create dozens of new subgenre names every year or two? or is it easier to say "i like this kind of hard techno, but I dont like that one"
maybe you like the porsche, but hate Volvo at the same time.. but you're still driving a thing called a CAR...

evenn if you drive a Yugo, you can still say you drive a CAR.. although Yugo is a KARA..

[The Overfiend]

now i see where ive been going wrong!

thanks Tony :)

If this was something you were passionate about it wouldnt be so funny would it.
Wuss boy :devilish:

[eyeswithoutaface]

now i see where ive been going wrong!

thanks Tony :)

If this was something you were passionate about it wouldnt be so funny would it.
Wuss boy :devilish:

why waste passion on schranz? why waste anything on schranz for that matter? Hard techno yes, Schranz, nah

[oldbugger]

well its deffinatly techno and its hard as nails. i'd say that classed it as hard techno.

sorry to point out the obvious here.

or does it drag down what you love somehow? i cant see why it should even figure in your world unless you want it to

[BRADLEE]

I would say that there is schranz and then there is also hard techno personally. I think that generall Schranz is a bit more monotone, and generally a lot faster than hard techno. Sometimes the tracks can reach into the 160BPM range. Which is quite fast for if it was a hard techno track. Then there is the obvious over use of distortion...because I have said it once before...Distortion does not equal hard, but only the mood created by the tune itself. Don't get me wrong in that respect either...Distortion is a very good weapon if used properly and not overused. But if it's too heavy just makes things hard to listen to.

So to put an end to my rambling, yes there is a differane. Atleast in my humble opinion.

[MARKEG]

Schranz is what it is.. It's a style of it's own....

But what I suspect Sam is fretting about is what I think about alot, which is that the older method of producing hard techno is getting lost because ppl think Schranz IS hard techno. I personally think the line is massive but if you don't understand techno, the line is NOTHING. and that's the problem here for artists like myself and Sam who are trying to do something different to Schranz based upon what it came from.

I dunno, you can say 'stop living in the past' and move on, but i personally think that hard techno is unfinished business. I don't class myself as a Schranz producer, although fair play to producers that make it and ppl that like it. god, i'll even play it if the party needs it...

but in the studio, for me.. hard techno is a very different ethos.. there's space between the beats and there's a need to break out of the 1 bar loop and put the funk in there. and 0 cheese or obvious samples. i don't know whether we achieve this, but i try my damndest to do it!

schranz for me, is the commmercial edge of hard techno. there's a place for it - i reespect that for sure.. hard techno is something else imho :)

[koma]

and 0 cheese or obvious samples

samples like "me so horny" or Marthin Luther King speech?

[Patrick DSP]

i have to agree with mark. it's as if the producers of schranz realized they have soiled their genre's name with crap production and covering up bad mixdowns with distrotion (99%of what's in that genre), and are looking for a cheap easy way to get out of that rut, ie. genre name change. I see a lot of schranz producers trying to argue this point and really confusing the hell out of people that are A) new to all this, and B) not from Germany/near there C) stop trying to call what was hard techno before in your eyes as hardgroove. I say keep calling it schranz but try make it better, and maybe it's image will turn around.