Mistress Barbara...

**MARKEG** · 09-12-2002, 03:12 AM

Great DJ, cool productions... but Godskitchen???

I could believe it.. Further proof that there is soon gonna be a commercial edge to serious techno music.

Can you believe what's happening??!!!! This is a period of serious change in techno...

**Anonymous** · 09-12-2002, 05:06 AM

you know Mark, i always thought people would catch on eventually. but i don't think it is so difficult to seperate oneself from the likes of dave clark and mistress babs... we don't have to be vogel and try so hard to reject the techno styles, but we do have to keep our edge. people like gunjack, christian wunsch, oscar mulero, etc. will never play at god's kitchen or get our records played on radio 1, but i like to think of the forefront as being such.

the trick has always been to stay ahead of the game. now MORE THAN EVER...

**DJZeMig_L** · 09-12-2002, 01:24 PM

Mark, people that play/ produce they're hearts out should never worrie about becoming comercial or not, they can never be tainted (unles they're already into pop ... lol :P)... they are what they r, i mean lets face it, would u start playing somethin other that what touched u just because every1 is into it aswell!?! Fuc*** Hel* I think we would b really Happy cause u can finally get recognition, U wouldn't b fooling any1 or yerself!! Isn't this in fact a sort of a wish... U r underground by what U do and the way U do it.. not because u r sucessfull or not... I believe U have 2 sorts of hits the ones that r because they were made 2 b and the 1s that r so bloody good that by a stroke of luck get played and people lock into it!! Right?... of course de 2nd example is very rare!!

On the same note I think we all should b somehow thankfull 4 commercial bollocky music,

WHY?? Well in my stupidly retarded country if it wasn't 4 comercial radios most kicks would still b partying with cheesy rock music... não at least they get a bit of a trainning 2 they're ears, eventually a couple of 'em get so fed up with crappy faggoty house that they start probing into techno, elektro, d'n'b ....

Anyways just my humble 2 cents!!

PS- It's better 2 have a Mistress Barbara playing @ does venues that another pop tart like JJ & CIA!

Z

**Anonymous** · 09-12-2002, 02:38 PM

I agree with Mark, we do need to be a bit worried, techno could be the next genre to be raped by commercialism.

**Anonymous** · 09-12-2002, 02:41 PM

i agree with mark think about it.

dave clarke has done gatecrasher

billy nasty done slink

misstress barbara done godskitchen

atomic jam had a tent at global gathering

just about every hard house/trance clubber is a fan of umek.

gatex being released with a tiesto mix

the list goes on, techno is slowly turning commercial, and to be honest i am a bit worried.

**Anonymous** · 09-12-2002, 03:18 PM

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**miromiric.** · 09-12-2002, 03:41 PM

gatex is not techno for the love of god!

that's just something which sounds similiar.

there's no need to worry! please check takaaki itoh and his release on his own label WOLS and tell me could that ever be absorbed by ordinary people!?

**krakp0t** · 09-12-2002, 04:51 PM

:arrow: yeah so dave clarke did gc (that's pretty depressing actually) he did some chemical bros remixes an crap before that but so what? i saw him play probably for very little money at DEMF this year and he tore it the hell up. sure he's gonna loose a certain amount of cred from the hardcore types like us but i don't believe it will by default make him any less talented or turn him into some kinda dj hell cheeseball or anything. some people (umek) will become more interested in popularity, record sales, personal finincal gain and pump out utter crap like "electroclash" and others will contunue to innovate. some of you are probably too young to remember what was considered "techno" in the very early days of rave (late 80s/ early 90s) adamski, prodigy, guru josh all had mainstream sucess, everyone was trying to find the illegal parties blah, blah, techno just kept on evolving in an awesome way. the chumps got left behind, the underground remained. a while back i read an interview with the electroclash duo "adult" they mentioned that electroclash and gigolo was about the "glaming up" of techno they wanted to make it "more sexy". did they make anything even remotely close to techno? i think not.

no worries.

**krakp0t** · 09-12-2002, 04:58 PM

oh yeah.

i like how brian refers to himself in the third person ;)

Originally Posted by gunjack

people like gunjack

**Adverse** · 09-12-2002, 05:22 PM

i agree with brian too.. no one is going to drop heroes at gatecrasher.

**Anonymous** · 09-12-2002, 05:58 PM

I wasn`t slagging off dave clarke, he is still one of my fav dj`s & on his day no one can touch him, just saying i don`t like the way techno seems to be going, it`s not so much in the states, but over here in europe & the uk especially.

**MARKEG** · 09-12-2002, 07:51 PM

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**Slammin Sam** · 09-12-2002, 09:08 PM

If so many people in the techno scene are worried about commercialism ? How come so many of the big names aren't too bothered by it. At the moment a lot of the big names seem to want to bring more commercial exposure to the techno scene. Derrick May, Speedy J, Ben Sims played at Godskitchen Global Gathering last year.

Marco Bailey was on Fergie's Radio 1 show on Friday following Ben Sims and Ade Fenton's apperance's on there.

I reckon some of the big techno jocks need to all sit down and discuss what they really want for techno.

**DJZeMig_L** · 10-12-2002, 03:12 AM

I know I'm asking 2 b stonned over here.. but I think u guys worrie 2 much.. it is really quite funny has I run a sort of techy forum in Portugal, (around 630 ppl) and most people complain how they can find techno anymore and how it's house all around... I fact u can almost predict the come back of techno from all the house abuse !!!
So from my humble point of view if people continue 2 do what they love without selling out 2 more commercial stuff then I C no prob with the getting famous ... In fact I think it's great that these people r spot on on what they want... sure money and some fame is good 2 pick up on the way, but we r talkin about some serious producers... I would rather have Marco on radio 1 that some clueless pop tart who can't mix 2 save his life and doesn't know techno from lego!!

PS - I have seen most local DJs who swore by techno switching 2 house like techno was a bad headache...

Z

**Anonymous** · 10-12-2002, 03:54 AM

Originally Posted by krakp0t

oh yeah.

i like how brian refers to himself in the third person ;)

Originally Posted by gunjack

people like gunjack

we are not amused.

**DJPAUZE** · 07-01-2003, 11:50 PM

I am not too familiar with the venues you guys are discussing here. However i would like to say that I as a dj, coming up in this world will take any gig that is given to me. I dont look at it as "I am playing in Gods Kitchen", i look at it as "I have to show this crowd what techno is all about!". Maybe if I'm just lucky while playing there at this lets just say "Commercial Event", i might be able to turn one of those trance or progressive heads towards the darkside of techno. I look at it as i have a job to do, and im going to do it.
And on another note if it means that im going to get to see a new country I am totally into it. I want to travel the world and spread me beats around hehe.

Cheers
Pauze

**anx** · 08-01-2003, 11:51 PM

^^ well put man

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