wonky techno massif

[TechMouse]

How does "Wonk if you like Techno" sound...?

[crime]

"Honk if you wonk" maybe? that could be better as a bumper sticker....

[crime]

Landstrumm is releasing stuff on Planet Mu soon I think BTW...

[Sunil]

Landstrumm is releasing stuff on Planet Mu soon I think BTW...

Yeah, September 11th is the release date I think.

[module]

i used to tell ppl i played 'wonky wacky spiky' techno.. meaning vogel, begg, schmidt etc.. but i always jus used the word in a descriptive manner, not as a label.

i used those words cos they described the sound.. which i always thought of as brittle & spiky & totally opposed to the 'dj tool' ethic..

the music is, and always has, been there, jus like mnml.. different vibes jus go thru different phases of popularity & media focus.

[module]

hardtec.. hardgroove.. schranz.. wonk.. mnml..

its all techmo imo.. jus different strains. i think ppl get waaay too caught up in the tagging as opposed to the music..

[TechMouse]

"Honk if you wonk" maybe? that could be better as a bumper sticker....

Massive potential for mis-reading...

[TechMouse]

Landstrumm is releasing stuff on Planet Mu soon I think BTW...

Ooooh, Grimey stuff?

[thetonewrecka]

Herky Jerky
Swing Swung
Chutes and Ladders
Push Pull
Nausea Noodling
Beatmatching None
mislabeled nonsense.

ridiculous.

Music is music was music will be music

[crime]

Herky Jerky
Swing Swung
Chutes and Ladders
Push Pull
Nausea Noodling
Beatmatching None
mislabeled nonsense.

ridiculous.

Music is music was music will be music

word

[thetonewrecka]

Uh oh...Mark are you getting all Cameo now? WORD UP...It's the code word!

[crime]

heheheh

[MARKEG]

have you noticed how easy ppl leech onto a sound and name. i absolutely HATED when acid house died in 89 and for me this was because too many ppl leeched onto it and it lost its real meaning. i was destroyed when i walked into the record shop one day and someone said 'oh no, no-one's making that anymore'. i've seen the same with schranz and because i'm such a hard techno freak, it's all happened again in a slightly different way. as mark said so well, landstrumm and the like were all playing alongside your more loopy techno dj's at one time and to me and many others, it's all one of the same thing.

unfortunately the media, the clubs, the whole bloody indistry need labels. shame that this is the biggest contribution to fashion and as such, is the biggest destroyer of music :(

*mark walks off all negative and wants to kill the music industry*

:lol:

[thetonewrecka]

I always thought that Kenny "everybody cut Footloose" Loggins was the biggest destroyer of music. Hmmm. maybe that's just me.

[crime]

too many ppl leeched onto it and it lost its real meaning.

this is the point... when these labels first get coined, it's not so much of a problem, the real problem is when people start trying to fit into the genre, and are scared of doing anything different, because it doesn't "fit in"... my other point is the artists that are supposedly "wonky" are far too diverse musically to fit under one umbrella term.. I mean, do you really think Neil Landstrumm sounds like Cannibal Cooking club? or Cristian Vogel sounds like Miditonal?? because to my ears they sound completely different....

[rotten]

well it's too simple actually, neil and christian = originals, legends ... ccc and miditonal = trying to make profit off the originals works. ok that's maybe a bit harsh but if you look on midis' sales and the fact that any record sounds the same...

[crime]

well it's too simple actually, neil and christian = originals, legends ... ccc and miditonal = trying to make profit off the originals works. ok that's maybe a bit harsh but if you look on midis' sales and the fact that any record sounds the same...

yes, but the latter sound nothing like the former..

[wrong]

I'd say miditonal and ccc have both been influenced by landstrumm, vogel, subhead et all but crossed that sound with hard as nails beats and made it more formulated and easier to fit into harder techno sets, definately made their own sound from it though. ~For me, it works, especially some of the stuff on miditonal, its totally different to vogel, landstrumm etc. although there are parallells with the brown by august/peacefrog ep's of neils but definately not in the same sub-division-pigeon-hole.
Mark, you shouldn't get so worked up about the tags that get put on music, those who know...know , and for those who don't, it acts as a rough pointer if you're navigating through recordshops or just trying to find stuff you like. And if people're too narrow minded to look outside of one type of music then thats their choice/problem.

[TechMouse]

the real problem is when people start trying to fit into the genre, and are scared of doing anything different, because it doesn't "fit in"... my other point is the artists that are supposedly "wonky" are far too diverse musically to fit under one umbrella term..

Perhaps I'm missing the point, but isn't "not fitting in" practically impossible with wonky techno?

It's more of an ethose of experimentation and randomness than a specific stylistic genre, IMHO.

[thetonewrecka]

hmm...I like to think of it as "normal" techno is just a train going down the tracks with some different sounds sitting in it's cargo boxes behind.
The best Wanky or Wonky or whatever you care to call it is a Rodeo bull trying to throw the sounds off it's back as it spins around, but somehow the rider just stays on for the duration even if it's just by a dislocated shoulder and hand that is roped in while the rest of his (or her) body gets tossed all around.