Lap tops...

[RDR]

It's quite annoying though, because I'd warmed to the idea of running Linux on a laptop.

I think I semi-dislike Macs on principle. Not entirely sure why...

I think it's because Mac users are so overbearingly smug about everything.

:lol:

Yup.

As proved earlier.. by me.

Jus' Trollin'....

Go on mate, you know you wanna, you can run windows on them too and it isnt an emulation, it really is windows. BUT reallly REALLY fast.

[RDR]

it'd take you about 5 minutes to learn os x it is very simple and straight forward.

also whoever said about running windows on os-x? is it in an emulator? cos if it is it'll be pretty slow. i used to have a copy of windows for mac, waste of time tbh

Once Leopard come out it will have an app called bootcamp which will enable Mac's to boot in either OSX or Windows.

http://www.apple.com/uk/macosx/leopard/

Bootcamp is already available in BETA, but the beta is only the installer app, if it works (and it does) its job is finished once windows is installed, its not active after that. all it is is an aPP to avticly partition the HD from OSx which happens utterly seamlessly, and burns a disk with all the drivers needed for windows to access the mac hardware. you can access your volume settings, display settings and eject the CD from the keyboard.

I run both OS's on mine without hassle. i repeat ZERO hassle.

Get it, a macbook or a cheaper iMAC will cost you less than a PC with the same spec, pedigree and will be two machines in one. its massive.

[RDR]

it'd take you about 5 minutes to learn os x it is very simple and straight forward.

Yeah, but I imagine it's nowhere near as configurable as any Window Manager on Linux.

also whoever said about running windows on os-x? is it in an emulator? cos if it is it'll be pretty slow. i used to have a copy of windows for mac, waste of time tbh

Apple Macs run on Intel Processors now, so effectively they're glorified PCs.

Which means they can natively run Windows.

Dont know about linux on the macs, im pretty sure there will be available builds.

unix core?

[MorePunkThanFunk]

it'd take you about 5 minutes to learn os x it is very simple and straight forward.

Yeah, but I imagine it's nowhere near as configurable as any Window Manager on Linux.

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thats the whole thing about macs, they work you don't need to configure them or tweak them, they jst do want you want em to do with no hassle. speeds up the work flow, as your not constantly fafffing.

also for someone like me who dosen't give a shit about how something works just that it does, its great.

what you we're saying before about being smug. its prob cos most mac users have used pc's where as most pc users aint used macs. thats why we're so smug, cos we know we're getting a better deal

[TechMouse]

Dont know about linux on the macs, im pretty sure there will be available builds.

unix core?

Well, of course, any x86 build of Linux should work on Mac now.

But what's the point of buying a Mac if you're just going to run Windows or Linux.

You might as well spend the same on a PC and get a more powerful machine.

[TechMouse]

what you we're saying before about being smug. its prob cos most mac users have used pc's where as most pc users aint used macs. thats why we're so smug, cos we know we're getting a better deal

Likewise, most PC and Mac users have never run Linux for any length of time - and even if they have, they've probably never dug that deep.

A desktop like XFCE, for example, shits over anything Microsoft or Apple can offer.

Plus, I understand if you're a high-end audio user the "Jack" system is revolutionary. You can basically wire the inputs and outputs of any piece of software (soft synths, sequencers, mutimedia apps, PureData, you name it) into any other. Kind of like ReWire but it's implicitly supported by all Linux audio apps.

Of course, I understand that for people who aren't tech-savvy it's a bit of a no go - and in that case I'd say deffo go Apple - but for someone like me who's a professional Geek, the potential is so much greater when you can break the OS apart and put it back together how you like.

[TechMouse]

... and of course there's the whole moral and ethical thing of all the software being free. (Very Techno).

[MorePunkThanFunk]

... and of course there's the whole moral and ethical thing of all the software being free. (Very Techno).

i have no morals or ethics, so thats me out

like i said before os x does exactly what i want it to do with minimum fuss thats why i love it so much. every pc i've ever had has caused no end of trouble, generally runnning problem free for about 1 month of the year.

[Oracle]

Which do you think would be more appropriate for writing music (and performing live) on a laptop - a Core Duo processor or a Pentium M with a similar speed?

[dan the acid man]

core duo chips are where it's at.

especially seeing that more and more apps are using dual core now

[DJCraig Ryan]

I'm after starting producing my own Hard Trance and wondering whether on not to purchase a Top Spec PC or Top Spec Laptop??

Has anybody got any links i can check out??

[tonyc2002]

ide go for the desktop unless u intend to be making music on the move, or using it for live applications

[danielmarshall]

I think I semi-dislike Macs on principle. Not entirely sure why...

I think it's because Mac users are so overbearingly smug about everything.

Yes, that's true sometimes. Empty vesels make the most noise most often though.

That said I'm quite a mac fan but I run a PC cause I'm poor :(

[massplanck]

what difference between the intel 'dual core' & 'duo' processors does any one know?

[dan the acid man]

what difference between the intel 'dual core' & 'duo' processors does any one know?

not too sure of all the technical differences, all i know is the core duo are really fast, they're pretty cheap, and they're quite energy efficient