Screw sales... do what you want....

[crime]

It's occurred to me that the biggest problem with "Techno music" these days is that people worry about sales too much, to the point where it compromises their music..

I've started working to pay the rent recently, so that I can forget about the sellability of the music I make, and not worry if I don't have a gig on a certain month, and I think it's freed me up no end..

It's made me view music once more in the way that I used to when I first got into it..

When I first discovered this music, it wasn't about sales, or getting a gig in this club or that club, but purely about love of music, about finding something new and different, and I feel it's all gone wrong the moment people start viewing music as a commodity..

ok, you have to pay the rent, and labels have to cover their costs, but I feel that far far better music has been made when the writer was just doing what they wanted to, and were trying to do something different to please themselves, not trying to be a carbon copy of their heros, making music in a particular "Style" do fit into a pidgeonhole which is easy to sell, or purely pumping out product to keep their "Profile" up just to get more gigs... this last one I particuarly despise, it's like techno's answer to "Big Brother".. surely if you want fame, go and make a F ucking electroclash record....

[Aratron]

It's occurred to me that the biggest problem with "Techno music" these days is that people worry about sales too much, to the point where it compromises their music..

I've started working to pay the rent recently, so that I can forget about the sellability of the music I make, and not worry if I don't have a gig on a certain month, and I think it's freed me up no end..

It's made me view music once more in the way that I used to when I first got into it..

When I first discovered this music, it wasn't about sales, or getting a gig in this club or that club, but purely about love of music, about finding something new and different, and I feel it's all gone wrong the moment people start viewing music as a commodity..

ok, you have to pay the rent, and labels have to cover their costs, but I feel that far far better music has been made when the writer was just doing what they wanted to, and were trying to do something different to please themselves, not trying to be a carbon copy of their heros, making music in a particular "Style" do fit into a pidgeonhole which is easy to sell, or purely pumping out product to keep their "Profile" up just to get more gigs... this last one I particuarly despise, it's like techno's answer to "Big Brother".. surely if you want fame, go and make a F ucking electroclash record....

why dont you start a schranz label mate? the new theme tune to Noddy could do with a good schranzing.:;

[eyeswithoutaface]

amen

this has been my aim from the beginning and without a doubt the best way to operate in this scene imo. I bet you noticed the stress literaly lift off your shoulders mark mate, no?

people seem to be under the impression that as long as they keep pumping out their wares (and i mean pumping, there are some people releasing who have very worrying ratios of release) then they'l automatically rise to the top. Not so. If you were shoving out like 15, 20 records a year like some people do, by logic the quality control over all these records is going to waver.

Alot of people need to slowdown, stop acting like techno owes them a living and face up to a bit of reality now and then. Having a regular job brings back that division between making music for my own love of it, and making music out of neccesity. And that's not music. It's just simply product. Which isnt nice at all

[dan the acid man]

plus you can use your bad mood after working all day in a crap job to make some seriously moody music :)

[RDR]

plus you can use your bad mood after working all day in a crap job to make some seriously moody music :)

Try writing polka music... now that shits evil...

[audioinjection]

It's occurred to me that the biggest problem with "Techno music" these days is that people worry about sales too much, to the point where it compromises their music..

I've started working to pay the rent recently, so that I can forget about the sellability of the music I make, and not worry if I don't have a gig on a certain month, and I think it's freed me up no end..

It's made me view music once more in the way that I used to when I first got into it..

When I first discovered this music, it wasn't about sales, or getting a gig in this club or that club, but purely about love of music, about finding something new and different, and I feel it's all gone wrong the moment people start viewing music as a commodity..

ok, you have to pay the rent, and labels have to cover their costs, but I feel that far far better music has been made when the writer was just doing what they wanted to, and were trying to do something different to please themselves, not trying to be a carbon copy of their heros, making music in a particular "Style" do fit into a pidgeonhole which is easy to sell, or purely pumping out product to keep their "Profile" up just to get more gigs... this last one I particuarly despise, it's like techno's answer to "Big Brother".. surely if you want fame, go and make a F ucking electroclash record....

i gotta agree with ya on this to an extent........because i can't completely put myself in the position of producers or label owners that make a living off of gigs and records.

[MARK ANXIOUS]

this is exactly why i class djing and making music as two totally seperate things. djing for me pays the bills and gets me a life (well, at the same time i absolutely love it and i try to be groundbreaking in my own little way). god i've been lucky to be able to do things this way. but once i get in that studio.... mannnnnnn.. money comes no-where near the equation.... it simply cant. i can't see how making money will enable you focus on music without taking away from the music itself.... no way this can happen in my book... but that's my opinion

[dirty_bass]

this is exactly why i class djing and making music as two totally seperate things. djing for me pays the bills and gets me a life (well, at the same time i absolutely love it and i try to be groundbreaking in my own little way). god i've been lucky to be able to do things this way. but once i get in that studio.... mannnnnnn.. money comes no-where near the equation.... it simply cant. i can't see how making money will enable you focus on music without taking away from the music itself.... no way this can happen in my book... but that's my opinion

Of coarse, should go without saying.
However, when you put out a BOA record
I`m sure you don`t want it lying around gathering dust in your distrib

[MARK ANXIOUS]

Of coarse, should go without saying.
However, when you put out a BOA record
I`m sure you don`t want it lying around gathering dust in your distrib

well that's exactly why suf handle the complete business side of boa vinyl. if i get a cheque from them after 6 months, great. if i don't, great. the guys will tell you, trying to get an invoice from me for any amount they have for me is like getting blood out of a stone :cheese:

i know for sure this would be very, very different if i didn't have my djing...

[dirty_bass]

well that's exactly why suf handle the complete business side of boa vinyl. if i get a cheque from them after 6 months, great. if i don't, great. the guys will tell you, trying to get an invoice from me for any amount they have for me is like getting blood out of a stone :cheese:

i know for sure this would be very, very different if i didn't have my djing...

Ah but then why release a record at all.
We don`t do it just for the knowledge that music can be made into plastic do we?
Regardless of money I`m sure you want people to buy the records, if it was just for the love then why not just give it all away.

I`m not even slightly saying that money should be a motivator for releasing, however, all this altruistic stuff we get on here can be a little turgid.

We put out records because we want people to hear it and play it.
Not for some higher cayse of a messiaanic "gift" to the fans.

Otherwise, we would give it all away.

[Miromiric]

this is exactly why i class djing and making music as two totally seperate things. djing for me pays the bills and gets me a life (well, at the same time i absolutely love it and i try to be groundbreaking in my own little way). god i've been lucky to be able to do things this way. but once i get in that studio.... mannnnnnn.. money comes no-where near the equation.... it simply cant. i can't see how making money will enable you focus on music without taking away from the music itself.... no way this can happen in my book... but that's my opinion

good marko.

[TechMouse]

Bugger, so this isn't a DIY store thread, then?

[eyeswithoutaface]

Bugger, so this isn't a DIY store thread, then?

hahaha nearly spat my tea out when i read that

[Aratron]

Bugger, so this isn't a DIY store thread, then?

[MARK ANXIOUS]

Bugger, so this isn't a DIY store thread, then?

I totally missed that. Hahahahahaha. Best post for ages!!!!

[Adey]

good on yer mr hawkins :)