tips on hi hat lines

[loopdon]

Agreed, it sounded like some shaker loop woven into it as well. What you call badly produced, Steve, i put as ''not hi-fi'' = lofi. Now if that's exactly the sound your looking for, ok, but i an only imagine this being played over a rig and becoming even more mushy.

But i reckon one can't really argue about taste and b) i like threads like these!

[dirty_bass]

Agreed, it sounded like some shaker loop woven into it as well. What you call badly produced, Steve, i put as ''not hi-fi'' = lofi. Now if that's exactly the sound your looking for, ok, but i an only imagine this being played over a rig and becoming even more mushy.

But i reckon one can't really argue about taste and b) i like threads like these!

Well what I mean is, especially with the digital era making that super crisp top end, this kind of bad production has been archetype for so long, it`s kinda become a sound, but essentially it`s a product of the cutting engineer having trouble with overcooked tops.

Lo-Fi is something like portishead. Using vintage and intentional scratchiness or whatever, but still well produced.

Bad production is bad production.

But I still get the general gist of what our man wants here, which is the rolling hats that essentially become one instrument (at least I think that`s what he is getting at) which is common in techno. Mankind records was always a good exponent of lovely big rolling top end loops. Incidentally, putting a sidechained gate with a constant 16 step pattern over the final stage of your hat buss, will also give things a nice timely chopping into the mix.

[techno_smack]

cheers dirty,

"Essentially you want the kind of hats that flow into each other, providing a constant gel between the kicks, so they sound as one instrument."

yeah thats exactly what im trying to acheive . i love techno hats/shaker action! when the kick n bass filters off or cuts and u just get this really fat hi -end groove .

the example i posted wasnt a great one. i m going to try and find something more like i am thinking off. but it looks like u know what im on about.

thanks keep ur tips and methods coming.

id love to hear some of ur own tunes if any one thinks they have some stuff with hats like this.

[dirty_bass]

Doubling up also helps.
2 sets of shakers, or a shker loop sample and your own shaker pattern with hits, so you get the effect of a couple of people playing shakers.
Then add some ride or open hat in there as well.

[drumliner]

emmm... talking about lo-fi, crushed, just white noise, no sparkle etc hats based on the provided sample is kinda obvious. the sample is after all a 64 kbps mp3 and all types of hats will sound lo-fi, crushed and so on at such low bitrate - it's the mp3 compression that does it.

[techno_smack]

emmm... talking about lo-fi, crushed, just white noise, no sparkle etc hats based on the provided sample is kinda obvious. the sample is after all a 64 kbps mp3 and all types of hats will sound lo-fi, crushed and so on at such low bitrate - it's the mp3 compression that does it.

yeah i was gonna mention that! thought this lot would have taken that into account , its a very low quality sample.