Dj Mag Who Do They Think They Are?????

[davethedrummer]

now this is one real gripe i have .
i know they always piss everyone off here with the DJ top 100
nazi self-promoting wAnker djs on the planet list every year.

but this time it's not just sour grapes.

did anyone get december's issue of DJ Magazine ?
ok...no-one , well i don't blame you but i did, i was flying and i wanted something to read , and they didnt sell the Beano or Playboy so i settled for DJ Mag
so.........it came with a cover mounted CD by this bloke OMID16B
now i don't want to be mean because he comes across in his interview as a nice geezer but..
F U C K M E !!!! this album stinks !!! and they are giving it away like its some kind of industry rule book breaking uber cool thing to do:
"aren't you lucky, lucky readers ???"etc etc...
and we're supposed to all nod our heads in time to the boring bland house beat
and say:
" oh yes!!!! oh thank you DJ Mag for saving our taste in music !!! without you we'd all be listening to things we really enjoy ,and making out own minds up, what a terrible terrible situation to be in!!"

and now.....
in Januarys issue ( the wife bought it for me to read ....honest!!! )
they are having a big discussion about the state of the music industry and mentioned in the title of the article are two things that were ( according to them ) major blows to the music bizz in 2007

they were apparently :
1. amato going bust ( ok i'm down with that, they were massive , perhaps not as big as hundreds of jobs being lost at EMI recently but i'll let it go )

2. this bloke OMID16B releasing his latest album as a free CD on their front cover!!
i mean helloooooo.......Radiohead anyone?

and then they precede to waffle on about m3s mp4s mp5s....CDs Vinyl and blah blah feckin blah and omid 16 is in there round the table waffling too, along with a record shop owner from camden who isn't even really in business yet!!!

AND.....what about kinetec records ???? i think to myself, they were going for ten bloody years in the heart of london's west end and have completely redesigned their business because of the latest digital trends!
why are you ( DJ Mag ) not asking a representative from them to join the debate?
eh? why!?!

my point is:
the music media is really clutching at straws now , trying to keep us blinder and more ignorant than ever before
they are closing ranks, shutting doors, blowing their own very tuneless trumpets and why?
not because they believe in it any more
because they are scared for their jobs and their income
and you know what?


it shows.

[Aratron]

@dave the drummer. any acid coming out soon. im rattling.

[davethedrummer]

@dave the drummer. any acid coming out soon. im rattling.

man!!
what kind of a reply is this?

****@!! i'm off to get a cup of tea.....* stomps downstairs in foul mood *

[Aratron]

man!!
what kind of a reply is this?

****@!! i'm off to get a cup of tea.....* stomps downstairs in foul mood *

:lol:

[Aratron]

man!!
what kind of a reply is this?

****@!! i'm off to get a cup of tea.....* stomps downstairs in foul mood *

listen to your fanbase.

i have money to buy your records.

[davethedrummer]

listen to your fanbase.

i have money to buy your records.

ok thanks man i get your point
and yes i am making some more acid right now as it appens
but thats not the point of this thread
thats all.

[dan the acid man]

yeah keep on topic.

As for the music business looking after their own, it's always happened, and even more so now, i'm sure DJ Magazine struck up a deal to promote this OMID thingy bloke with his record labels or what ever.

Telling everybody he's the best thing since sliced bread and the heards of sheep following just because DJ Magazine said so and it makes them look cool.

[RDR]

Im surprised at you, usually you're a lot more cynical than this.

DJ Mag are a bunch of jumped up tosspots anyway, besides you think you got it bad down there man, think about whats its like for us up here in the north, you got access if needed to these tosspots in one way of another, we get SHIT up here. DJ wank Mag and the others are all london centric to the point it makes me want to vomit.

They're all paid for shit anyway, OMI16D or whatever the **** his name is no doubt has some strings pulled and cocain blown up some PR/editors bottom. Its all VERY nepotistic, besides the DJ mag 1op 100 is a ****ing sham. I know one of the brothers of someone who charted in the top 25 and HE was paid to sit around all day spoofing hotmail votes etc etc. he managed to get 12000 extra votes. But then promoters of nights aorund the globe dont really understand this and book on the strengths of these lists, particularly for wank fests like trance or house gigs.

I gues the other side of the coin is that if it were a big name on the front cover then the argument could be that DJ SHAG/MAG were not giving the little guy a chance. Or perhaps the editors of the magazine dont really have their finger on the pulse anymore, or are followig where the money is in the industry right now, just so their schmoozing is of better quality, more drugs, more free flights to ibeeeeFFAA, more VIP in the Club etc etc.. snort snort.

[Little_Fella!]

Wax Magazine was the best one when I got into buying DJ Magazines way way back... the demise of this part of the industry became clearly apparent when this publication ceased... :cry:

I've met Leslie in 2002 at the after party to DJ 100 poll winners party, who is the editor of DJ Magazine and spoke with her on a few things... she poo poo'd acid techno, which showed me straight away how blinkered her approach to dance music was, in reality... :grr:

...and I remember forcing her to admit that once you turn your back on the underground, no matter what it is, and just focus on the above ground mainstream arena then eventually the musical river will run dry as it is not being fed by tributaries - - then stagnation will occur bringing about the demise of the dance music industry... well :icon3:

Went back to her house for a while n eventually, by about 2pm, she wound up screeching that, "all those who weren't close unit friends had to GET OUT!!!" - -nobody had been unruly or owt so her reaction was completely unwarranted and very un music bizz parse in my book... oh aye :coffee:

[RDR]

Wax Magazine was the best one when I got into buying DJ Magazines way way back... the demise of this part of the industry became clearly apparent when this publication ceased... :cry:

I've met Leslie in 2002 at the after party to DJ 100 poll winners party, who is the editor of DJ Magazine and spoke with her on a few things... she poo poo'd acid techno, which showed me straight away how blinkered her approach to dance music was, in reality... :grr:

...and I remember forcing her to admit that once you turn your back on the underground, no matter what it is, and just focus on the above ground mainstream arena then eventually the musical river will run dry as it is not being fed by tributaries - - then stagnation will occur bringing about the demise of the dance music industry... well :icon3:

Went back to her house for a while n eventually, by about 2pm, she wound up screeching that, "all those who weren't close unit friends had to GET OUT!!!" - -nobody had been unruly or owt so her reaction was completely unwarranted and very un music bizz parse in my book... oh aye :coffee:

Coke addled muso journo's they're GREAT!

[Little_Fella!]

Oh yeah, n don't think i'm getting mi panty liners on again coz I was given them tickets to go to the gig, at Fabric, by the manager of the bar I worked in where the after party was being held... so there

...aaaaand just as I was hitting a peak on the 'off yer face' tronced moments on the dancefloorthey stopped all the music to give bloody Tiesto his fekkin award - I didn't know what the feck was going on as I'd forgotten about all that bollocks - booo! ya b***ards!!

[Little_Fella!]

Coke addled muso journo's they're GREAT!

Bang on, I was going to mention that fact - I won't go any where near it and prefer other combinations, shall we say...

[Little_Fella!]

Also your friends at DJ Magazine have come up with 'The Black Book' - - quote - 'a list with 1000's of international contacts for the dance music industry... The DJ Black Book is the essential tool for anyone in the industry. It features all the industry information you'll ever need... blah blah

....at just £4.95 - - how nice of them

[Little_Fella!]

Also your friends at DJ Magazine have come up with 'The Black Book' - - quote - 'a list with 1000's of international contacts for the dance music industry... The DJ Black Book is the essential tool for anyone in the industry. It features all the industry information you'll ever need... blah blah

....at just £4.95 - - how nice of them

...and the link being http://www.djmag.com/index.php?op=bl...blackbook_info

Come on now you should all be buying this!!! hmmmm :coffee:

[koma]

lol, all that hype around Omid is really useless, all the house heads i know dont think much of him. it might work with the sheeps though.

dave, thank god you havent been reading billboard lately. one of their editors recently wrote the biggest things happening to electronic scene in 2007 were Tiesto and the return of house music. lol lol loooool.

f*ck em all, these magazines are all losing their credibility fast, if there is any anymore.

[digitalboy]

Wax magazine was boss, bring it back.

[Dave Elyzium]

Wax magazine was boss, bring it back.

^^ what he said

[dirty_bass]

my point is:
the music media is really clutching at straws now , trying to keep us blinder and more ignorant than ever before
they are closing ranks, shutting doors, blowing their own very tuneless trumpets and why?
not because they believe in it any more
because they are scared for their jobs and their income
and you know what?


it shows.

Sooooo **** em.
Who wants to be a part of their corporate death sucking, trend following, brown nosing bullshit pot of the blind leading the blind.

Magazines are shite, who cares about them.

They are defunct anyway. Why read record reviews in a poxy dead tree pamphlet when you can hop online and make your own mind up about what you like and want.

The music media is dead.
The corpse is still twitching, but don`t mistake that for anything other than the final tweaks of twilight passing.

Good riddance.

[davethedrummer]

Sooooo **** em.
Who wants to be a part of their corporate death sucking, trend following, brown nosing bullshit pot of the blind leading the blind.

Magazines are shite, who cares about them.

They are defunct anyway. Why read record reviews in a poxy dead tree pamphlet when you can hop online and make your own mind up about what you like and want.

The music media is dead.
The corpse is still twitching, but don`t mistake that for anything other than the final tweaks of twilight passing.

Good riddance.

i know i know..
it's my own stupid fault for looking in the first place
but mags are important dammit!
people read the bloody things ! thats what i'm getting at !
they used to tell at least a portion of the truth , now it's just lies lies lies...

and this is not sour grapes any more , sure i've been pissed off when mags have ignored things ive done presonally , but this whole thing hit me on a different level.

like before where i would think "oh no dj and mixmag will never review our records ever again, the label will suffer etc etc ... "

now i'm thinking "thank god i'm not in THAT magazine !!its just full of crap! "

and thats weird.
thing have definitely changed , the journos just have no shame anymore.

[lunatrick]

it is a bit sad - the industry in the uk is dying on it's arse.....not quite sure why it seems to be going strong in other places?

I mean you expect DJ mag to be a bit better than say mixmag.....but half of the problem is the same dj's have been there for the last 20 years...and kids are all off getting into dubstep or whatever.........the house music industry has become a corporate blandathon....I think it needs to die and then start again....