roland mc-909 ???

[mister badtouch]

Just wondering if anyone has any thoughts/opinions/experience on the 'roland mc-909' groovebox?

I think I'm about to spend my cash on one, but juist wanted an opinion from someone who's used one before..

thanks

[Ak01]

Once you get used to the way you sequence and perform on the Groovebox series it gets REALLY fun.

However, the soundset sucks and the sample time, from what I recall, is limited. I'd rather work with something that had NO internal preset samples, and TONS of room for my own stuff.

Your money is better spent on Ableton Live and a triggerfinger IMHO

[massplanck]

Just wondering if anyone has any thoughts/opinions/experience on the 'roland mc-909' groovebox?

I think I'm about to spend my cash on one, but juist wanted an opinion from someone who's used one before..

thanks

Its great fun. But the sounds are lacking somewhat. If you are going to get a groove box (which I recommend over abelton & trigger finger anyday!) get yourself a Yamaha RS7000.

Remember dont listen to the software bullies!

[xes]

I'm interested in this too. What's the best all round machine for making music on. (must have a 303 on it)

Around 500 quid? (maybe more,depends)

[acidsaturation]

I don't reckon you'll find an all round box with a 303 on it...

[massplanck]

I'm interested in this too. What's the best all round machine for making music on. (must have a 303 on it)

Would you like a guitar on it too?

[mister badtouch]

Would you like a guitar on it too?

LOL

I think the mc-909 dos have DIGITAL 303 samples on it, but it's obviously not the real thing. It might still sound ok though if I use it with my nice and cheap 'freebass fb383' which is still analogue....

I'm also thinking about getting the 'supreme dance' expansion wav rom from 'roland'... any thoughts on this?

[acidsaturation]

I use the freebass... not quite an exact 303, but nice enough and got it's own character to it...

[massplanck]

I'm also thinking about getting the 'supreme dance' expansion wav rom from 'roland'... any thoughts on this?

Dude. check out the RS7000 if you can.

Only way I used to get a good sound out of the 909 was to run it through a Boss distortion pedal. :)

[xes]

Would you like a guitar on it too?

not essensial,but I could hock it :)

how about something like this.
http://www.dv247.com/invt/18596/
a korg ESX1

[acidsaturation]

not essensial,but I could hock it :)

how about something like this.
http://www.dv247.com/invt/18596/
a korg ESX1

I've got the older version of those. Nice and fun to use, though can get a bit fiddly if you want to create any of your own riffs, 'cos you need to set up a sample and then use the pitch shift on a motion sequence to play it.

The sound (particularly on this version) is lovely though.

Also unless they've changed it, you can't set a pattern so that some of the parts are muted when you first move to it, so if you wanted to run a loop and then bring in hats/snare etc blah blah, you need to set up each version on a separate pattern.

And the memory's quite small.

I'd find it hard to use this as an all in one, unless your music is quite minimal.

Problem is, most all in one boxes that are easy to use have less good sounds.

My solution would be look for an old second hand groove box (I use an RM1x which is a super powerful sequencer if you lean how to use it, but got by with an MC303 for years!) sod the internal sounds and get a cheap synth (a-station/microkorg etc) and a drum modules (second hand drum-station if you can find one, or one of the electribe drum machines). Use the sequencer on the box to play the synths.

Guess you'll need a mixer, but I reckon you could search out that lot for about £500. Though it's not all in one.

[massplanck]

not essensial,but I could hock it :)

how about something like this.
http://www.dv247.com/invt/18596/
a korg ESX1

Classic Machine. So much fun to use and a wicked sound.

[dirty_bass]

RS7000 is typical yamaha

Shite sequencing, terrible sounds, limited sampling.

A nice lappy, good controller, and audio realism bassline pro for the 303, and ableton.

Most groove boxes are just PC`s anyway, but with horrible soundsets and terrible limited sequencing interfaces

I played live for years with grooveboxes and all sorts of midi gear.

poo to it, you want instant, easy control with ulimited scope for converting your ideas into reality.

[stjohn]

RS7000 is typical yamaha

Shite sequencing, terrible sounds, limited sampling.

the hardware mafioso wont liek that

[massplanck]

the hardware mafioso wont liek that

Rory how shite & limited did my Rs7000 sound to you?

[stjohn]

Totally shit ..:lol:


joking, it was great crack...and sounded crazy from what i remember

but then ... i am a hardware fan:roflmao:

[massplanck]

RS7000 is typical yamaha

Shite sequencing, terrible sounds, limited sampling.

.

lol i remember about 2 years ago sending you a clip of something i made and you were pretty shocked when i told you the sound came from the rs7000.

[massplanck]

AS for shite sequencing? lol I thought that was down to the person writing the tune? Limited sampling? Its not a sampler.

Get over yourself. Some people like dedicated boxes for jamming & having fun rather than waiting for 10 mins for something to boot up and another 5 to set shit up and another 10 to assign knobs and. Nevermind the fact that alot of people stare at a monitor all day at work.. for them to go home and stare at a montor for the rest of the evening. Like I said software nazis.

[dirty_bass]

AS for shite sequencing? lol I thought that was down to the person writing the tune? Limited sampling? Its not a sampler.

Get over yourself. Some people like dedicated boxes for jamming & having fun rather than waiting for 10 mins for something to boot up and another 5 to set shit up and another 10 to assign knobs and. Nevermind the fact that alot of people stare at a monitor all day at work.. for them to go home and stare at a montor for the rest of the evening. Like I said software nazis.

Not at all, I`ve probably used more hardware than you`ve ever seen.
I`m just realistic about what you can achieve for the best price and ease of use.

Yamaha are shit at sequencing. Always have been, always will be.

If anything I`d recommend the korg groove boxes, as they are much easier to use, and have less of the typical yamaha dumbfoolery and lack of logic.

However if you are feeling like being nostalgic, just get a stick and a hollow log, who needs technology to make techno, I mean, the word techno actually means "use of oldest possible machinery" in latin.

[massplanck]

However if you are feeling like being nostalgic, just get a stick and a hollow log, who needs technology to make techno, I mean, the word techno actually means "use of oldest possible machinery" in latin.

Lol you really are completley up your own arse mate with comments like that.

The guy has a laptop & abelton already & obviously he hasnt got 40000 grand to spend on a machinedrum. He likes the idea of having DEDICATED groovebox to play with. I have had both a 909 and RS7000 (unlike you.. ie you prob played with them for 30 mins and took your usuall judgemental stance and dismissed them as rubbish). The RS7000 is brilliant live - really ****ing great, its what it does best. OK The sounds are not up to the standard of the access virus or whatever but they are better than the 909 thats for sure. And of course the fact that you asked me "what the hell made that sound" when i played you a clip of a track I made with the RS7000 totally blows that argument out of the water. It a powerful machine and in the right hands can obviously convince people like you (who have obviously used more hardware than I have even seen ) that they are listening to something NOT made by yamaha.

Anyway for me the RS is another piece of the puzzle. I like mixing the sounds of different pieces of manufacturers hardware together (virus, rs7000 & korg electribe) as well as samples from a pc (pc through the mixer). I hate the idea of every single sound starting its life off in the same DAW that the whole unvirse uses. How discordian of you to advise him to get "abelton & a controller" like 99% of people do. Radical.

And a message to the origional poster.
Think for yourself dude. You'll sound more unique for it.