grrrrr vestax pdx d3s vs technics

[Jay Pace]

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I owned technics. They were ok, "my first proper decks". The pitch on one of them went after a few years, I had it replaced. The tone arms were always a little wonky. The leads hardwired into the deck were shite, and I had to have them replaced as well.

I eventually sold them on for what I bought them for.

And bought a pair of these:


Any they whupped technics. The pitch was infinitely better, the tone arm vastly improved, better torque, tracking, better pitch range and a digital jogstick to avoid the need to push the platter. Tiny little adjustments in pitch can be made with a joystick.

Beautiful decks, and I love them.

And for some reason they have no resale value at all. Whereas the technics I bought over ten years ago for £250 are still selling second hand for £250.

So they're going into storage for the next three years to gather dust, because I'm not selling them for £50 each - which seems to be all they're worth.

Buyer beware - your kit will lose all its value if its not hero branded for tech-fetishists who put brand before quality.

Grrr.

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[SlimboyPhatt]

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I owned technics. They were ok, "my first proper decks". The pitch on one of them went after a few years, I had it replaced. The tone arms were always a little wonky. The leads hardwired into the deck were shite, and I had to have them replaced as well.

I eventually sold them on for what I bought them for.

And bought a pair of these:


Any they whupped technics. The pitch was infinitely better, the tone arm vastly improved, better torque, tracking, better pitch range and a digital jogstick to avoid the need to push the platter. Tiny little adjustments in pitch can be made with a joystick.

Beautiful decks, and I love them.

And for some reason they have no resale value at all. Whereas the technics I bought over ten years ago for £250 are still selling second hand for £250.

So they're going into storage for the next three years to gather dust, because I'm not selling them for £50 each - which seems to be all they're worth.

Buyer beware - your kit will lose all its value if its not hero branded for tech-fetishists who put brand before quality.

Grrr.

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Dont sell em. You'll probably want to mix vinyl again at some point. Why use anything but the best brand of decks???

Vestax forever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (I have pdx-2000's)

[RDR]

Getting them repaired is horrible though...

[Jay Pace]

I had a tonearm replaced, after a book fell on it and broke it. Cost £125.
Stung, but no real complaints.

I'm pretty confidant when I dust them off after 3 years in storage they will still shit on 95% of decks on the market.

Beats me why they aren't worth anything though. They got discontinued, but are still a cracking piece of kit.

[RDR]

I had a tonearm replaced, after a book fell on it and broke it. Cost £125.
Stung, but no real complaints.

I'm pretty confidant when I dust them off after 3 years in storage they will still shit on 95% of decks on the market.

Beats me why they aren't worth anything though. They got discontinued, but are still a cracking piece of kit.

Because of all the reasons you outlined.

and 125 for a tone arm...

there you go.

[Jay Pace]

Technics tonearm costs £70, add £50 for someone to install it and your looking at the same price.

Some brands just age well I suppose.

[RDR]

Technics tonearm costs £70, add £50 for someone to install it and your looking at the same price.

Some brands just age well I suppose.

no point in paying anyone to install it... not for me anyhoo.. piece of piss. you can get otne arms cheaper than that as well.

[Siege]

ive had enough of technics v vestax?

[TechMouse]

Beats me why they aren't worth anything though.

The resale value is just a reflection of market demand.

Clubs don't routinely install Vestax, so the demand isn't as high as Technics.

I don't know an audio device that keeps its value quite as well as a Technics record deck. It's remarkable.

If you're looking for a babysitter, I keep meaning to learn how to mix on 3 decks.

I'll have to ask the Mrs though - recall our previous discussion on storage space: I'm probably on thin ice already, insisting on a corner of the living room for decks and records.

[Jay Pace]

ive had enough of technics v vestax?

Fair enough, but this is more about resale value of some gear being massively higher than others.

Just suprised me, thats all.

[Siege]

Fair enough, but this is more about resale value of some gear being massively higher than others.

Just suprised me, thats all.

fairdoos

[Microdot]

the vestax turntables shit all over technics.
much better decks on every level.

[RDR]

the vestax turntables shit all over technics.
much better decks on every level.

Never used these ones but i liked the PDX3's from years ago and they were really reliable, HATED the PDX2000, horrible plasticy things that were great for scratching but broke contstantly and had a crossfader so light that you could blow on it to move it (not good)

[TechMouse]

the vestax turntables shit all over technics.
much better decks on every level.

Betamax was technically superior to VHS.

[Microdot]

Betamax was technically superior to VHS.

no doubt.

[RDR]

Sony still went with the format of betamax, it became digibeta and was widley used in the TV and Video edit industry for years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betacam

Check that link, Sony lost the consumer end battle but where was most of the recorded content recorded to??? Digibeta / Betcam SP

Kinda makes a mockery of the whole thing :lol:

[Microdot]

Sony still went with the format of betamax, it became digibeta and was widley used in the TV and Video edit industry for years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betacam

Check that link, Sony lost the consumer end battle but where was most of the recorded content recorded to??? Digibeta / Betcam SP

Kinda makes a mockery of the whole thing :lol:

betamax video tapes are awesome for recording audio onto.

[TechMouse]

betamax video tapes are awesome for recording audio onto.

How does one go about that, Jon?

[RDR]

Via their audio input.

seriously though, if memory serves a lot of the later models have DIN style inputs which means you can use a DIN to L/R audio and Composite Video

[Microdot]

How does one go about that, Jon?

as RDR says, using din leads is the best way.