Dub step.

[SlavikSvensk]

check out this one MITA posted slav... I liked

cheers for the link, but i can't get into it. not going to write off the whole genre though, mind you, just at this point the whole "dark garage" thing doesn't do it for me.

now...i say this to stimulate discussion, not to troll, so no one get offended, but is it possible that the current enthusiasm for dubstep has more to do with the staleness of techno and a thirst for something new and vital than the inherent amazingness of dubstep?

just a thought...no one kill me...i fully recognize i have only limited exposure to dubstep and acknowledge that i could be 100% off-base :)

[C.O.Prodigy]

cheers for the link, but i can't get into it. not going to write off the whole genre though, mind you, just at this point the whole "dark garage" thing doesn't do it for me.

now...i say this to stimulate discussion, not to troll, so no one get offended, but is it possible that the current enthusiasm for dubstep has more to do with the staleness of techno and a thirst for something new and vital than the inherent amazingness of dubstep?

just a thought...no one kill me...i fully recognize i have only limited exposure to dubstep and acknowledge that i could be 100% off-base :)

Ok but when you say techno .. what comes to mind?

To me, artists that come to mind are : James Ruskin, Go Hiyama, Luka Baumann, Grovskopa, Dirty_Bass, Speedy J, Jeroen Liebregts, Reeko, Inigo Kennedy, Surgeon, CYP, rednox, Makaton, Regis, Female.... both for mixes and tracks... Now for these artists I wouldn't say that they exude staleness, quite on the on the contrary. I'm not always inclined to listen to these kind of sounds 24/7 like I used to, but they are my go to guys when I fell the urge to go nuts...

[massplanck]

now...i say this to stimulate discussion, not to troll, so no one get offended, but is it possible that the current enthusiasm for dubstep has more to do with the staleness of techno and a thirst for something new and vital than the inherent amazingness of dubstep?

oh you big troll!

Dubstep has nothing got to do with the staleness of techno. People just enjoy it & are digging it the same way people dug techno & d'n'b when it was new. The production values in the early stuff was really really amazing (Loefah, Toasty, Hotflush Records, Vex'd, DMZ etc). Really top notch stuff. These guys are bass enthusiasts. Now there are tons of imitators who dont really have the same kind of standards, some producing crap music & some producing excellent music, which is making it hard to find the good stuff. But it was always the same situation with techno. C'mon there must be at least 3000 techno labels out there. All this talk about hype and bandwagon jumping is funny. We ALL jumped onto the techno bandwagon at some stage. If Surgeon hadnt jumped on the techno bandwagon in the mid ninties , well we wouldnt have had surgeon would we etc etc.

@ Shiva & RDR. Its a personal thing with the abelton v vinyl . But dont let that stop you. You wouldnt be able to make a mix like that with a set of decks & I still really enjoyed it. Keep mashing up the styles girlfriend! :)

[SlavikSvensk]

Dubstep has nothing got to do with the staleness of techno. People just enjoy it & are digging it the same way people dug techno & d'n'b when it was new. The production values in the early stuff was really really amazing (Loefah, Toasty, Hotflush Records, Vex'd, DMZ etc). Really top notch stuff. These guys are bass enthusiasts. Now there are tons of imitators who dont really have the same kind of standards, some producing crap music & some producing excellent music, which is making it hard to find the good stuff. But it was always the same situation with techno. C'mon there must be at least 3000 techno labels out there. All this talk about hype and bandwagon jumping is funny. We ALL jumped onto the techno bandwagon at some stage. If Surgeon hadnt jumped on the techno bandwagon in the mid ninties , well we wouldnt have had surgeon would we etc etc.

of course it doesn't, but i was talking about the enthusiasm for it among techno heads. or maybe it has nothing to do with it. :)

[TechMouse]

now...i say this to stimulate discussion, not to troll, so no one get offended, but is it possible that the current enthusiasm for dubstep has more to do with the staleness of techno and a thirst for something new and vital than the inherent amazingness of dubstep?

For me, the best Techno has always gone around the houses and incorporated wildly different sounds.

Basic Channel brought dub into the mix. Tim Wright brought in two-step rhythms. CJ Bolland flirts with trance. T Raumschmiere has a punk edge. You can pull all of these elements and more into a Techno mix and create something cohesive, varied and unique all at the same time.

Dubstep is just another element for this.