forgot to say acidtrash love the tunes (i one day aspire to e able to do this) x
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
![]() |
forgot to say acidtrash love the tunes (i one day aspire to e able to do this) x
audio realism bassline two is good
is what i use anyway
got the built in 303 style sequencer to get it slippin an slidin
suck my tiny brain
Pete,that clone,what do you run it through? Could I plug it into my mixer/midi controller (CME UF50)/pc? Or all of the above. I'm gagging for some knobs to twiddle. (and i've not figured out how to map ABL through ableton to my midi cos I'm a thick impatient bastard) :embarrassed:
once you've loaded the plugin into a midi track, a little box pops up at the bottom of the ableton window. at the top of that box is a little button with a triangle in it. click the triangle, and all the ABL2 parameters are listed for you to map to a controller. i've attached a screengrab...
KSS Records releases now available online:
http://www.trackitdown.net/recordlabel/107314.html
www.kssrecords.co.uk
had a little play,got the box up,but I still can't map it. Probably cos I'm not running a legit version of either,and it's god punnishing me.
I haven't a clue. It just works as a midi slave. I make my riffs then pipe it out to the box. My advice is not to bother. there is nothign at all wrong with ABL. The difference is negligable and the hype about the real thing is just hype. By the time you';ve run it throughj a shitty distortion unit or overdriven desk and recorded it and eq'd it you've lost any semblnce of analogue realism you may have had and the majority of acid lines depend more on the fx than the pulse generator anyway.
The old gueard, nostalgic about the old days may call me a heretic and while they may have dozens of records out using the real box, I have been using emulators for 7 years nowand I have yet to find the ABL or phoscyon wanting in any great dimension.
I'm with DB on this one. The trade off is not worth the sacrifice in money. I say with a reasonable degree of confidence that when my tunes are good, theyre fcking great and I think the spontenaeity of my tracks would be lost if I spent half my time fcking around with hardware that never sounds the same twice.
You can do the same with midi patterns and varying velocity. But why bother? abl is the shit.
This is the abl. If abl isnt good enough for you, nothing will be.
Last edited by AcidTrash; 23-04-2008 at 07:58 PM.
sorry mate i have to say you are way off the mark if you think the ABL can totally replace the real thing.
it's pretty good for sure
but the real thing still has that edge especially at high resonance settings, at least to my ears it does.
and i disagree with the shitty distortion / crappy desk argument too
it's still analogue mate and some things just sound better than others.
put the real thing through the mackie and hey presto !
love your mum
sorry but i totally agree with d the d. abl is good but if you really do know the true sound of the tb-303, you'll notice a difference - especially if you use shitty batteries in it. just my 2 cents :)
with reguards to hardware clones,what is the general thoughts on the futureretro revolution? Here's a little video comparing it to a tb 303
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkALw...eature=related
I have near as dammit the real thing and "that sound" is totally achievable with the inbuilt foldback distortion on ABL (with added after effects). In many respects this analogue solutions TBX303 thing is even more versatile for an analogue acid box and I still wouldn't go to the effort of plugging it in for Skankadelic style or hard dance style acidlines.
If you want that hyper psychedelic hi res sound with hi mod, sure I take my hat off to analogue but soon as you mix it down into a track it really doesn't add much. I only really notice "that sound" when it's playing live but then I'm betting that if I spent as much time with phoscyon as I have with this and other emulators I could produce a track even you wouldn't know for sure.
You mean to tell me after near two decades of being a travelling DJ you still have that hearing range? ;)it's pretty good for sure
but the real thing still has that edge especially at high resonance settings, at least to my ears it does.
But once it's recorded it's then digital so it's a pretty redundant argument, no? Unless you're maintaining analogue purity throughout or very high quality 24bit recording, which incidentally will not burn onto CD at that rate.and i disagree with the shitty distortion / crappy desk argument too
it's still analogue mate and some things just sound better than others. put the real thing through the mackie and hey presto !
I really notice the difference in sound from all analogue live sets the likes of eggybamyasi and hardfloor but I'm still gonna go out there and say, sound quality aside, it still sounds ameteurish and not nealy as dynamic as the latter day acid techno. In my humblest opinion.
But then like all things, it really does depend on what you're trying to achieve. I couldn't get the ABL to replicate say Lock or International rescue but I can't get this clone to either. Hell, I can't even get this thing sounding the same twice. I suppose that is the merit of having one but it''s damn annoying if you find something and want to revisit it.
Last edited by AcidTrash; 24-04-2008 at 12:17 PM.
nope. you'll have to elaborate. I'm coming form a position of clinical analysis on this and I really can't find much difference to write home about.
"analogue is just better OK" is a mantra, not an argument.
Last edited by AcidTrash; 24-04-2008 at 04:07 PM.
doesn't matter what it ends up on, it's the original source of the sound that's important.
getting back to the orginal question for a second, xes, if you're honestly still thinking of going hardware, then don't get anything less than a tb303, ok it may mean you have to save for another year or whatever, but if you're wanting a 303 sound then it's the only way to go, other than that stick with the abl or that psychothingy (sorry can't remember the name).
The ABL is damn good if you use the right plug ins with it, but i do agree it loses it a little on the high resonance.
Life is "trying things to see if they work"
Finally getting around to updating my site
http://www.plus27design.co.uk/
Dave knows scooter lyrics
post an example of this legendary hi res. Lets put this to the test shall we?