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    Quote Originally Posted by Siege View Post
    Some of it was good,...some of it was messy.....like with Cubert, looks good to watch but sounds shite.....tendency to be messy a lot of the time when doing crab scratches etc... for me it as to be clean and tight.

    wot exactly do you find "messy" about it? i can assure you that the maker of
    that video wouldnt have put it up if he felt he didnt nail everything as he intended to...and to say q-bert is sloppy is a tad harsh..

    do u have and references to better?

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    The main clip posted is good...but i watched some of the other clips that are there when that 1 finishes and on these some of the scratching is messy and slightly out.....just all transforming, crab scratches etc..no hand scratches.

    Cubert is a legend, dont get me wrong, influenced me over the years....but again, is scratching can be very messy in the patterns etc he puts together.
    Mixmaster Mike who used to scratch for the beastie boys is far better....better technique, patterns etc...more of a story to his scratching than just a load of transforming all over the place.

    If your clued up on scratching you would know what im going on about and wouldnt take offence to my comments.....theres good scratching and theres bad scratching.

    go check Mixmaster Mike, thats a reference.

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    Is this your little buddy or somefin? Lets get this straight...i wasn't knocking the lads skills looks sick and he is skilled. I was talking about the sounds he is using...sounded absolutely shite. As a couple of other people said get some decent records on.

    Back your comment up lad before you jump in

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    yeah the title of the post is: 'the most technical jocks within?' and the guy in the clip isn't imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJCraig Ryan View Post
    Is this your little buddy or somefin? Lets get this straight...i wasn't knocking the lads skills looks sick and he is skilled. I was talking about the sounds he is using...sounded absolutely shite. As a couple of other people said get some decent records on.

    Back your comment up lad before you jump in
    he is indeed...altho i put the video up as reference only. i asked a question
    yet none of u have answered.

    im purly interested to know of people who use the turntables as some i have mentioned....never set out to start a "whos better than who" thread...end
    of the day weather i like it or not im a promoter, always on the hunt for new
    and exciting talent.

    thanks for your help tho ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siege View Post
    The main clip posted is good...but i watched some of the other clips that are there when that 1 finishes and on these some of the scratching is messy and slightly out.....just all transforming, crab scratches etc..no hand scratches.

    Cubert is a legend, dont get me wrong, influenced me over the years....but again, is scratching can be very messy in the patterns etc he puts together.
    Mixmaster Mike who used to scratch for the beastie boys is far better....better technique, patterns etc...more of a story to his scratching than just a load of transforming all over the place.

    If your clued up on scratching you would know what im going on about and wouldnt take offence to my comments.....theres good scratching and theres bad scratching.

    go check Mixmaster Mike, thats a reference.
    havent taken offence m8 sorry if it reads like that but my questions are genuine and have purpose...and i know enough to know that its q-bert, if therez a cubert i appologies ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by wenna View Post
    yeah the title of the post is: 'the most technical jocks within?' and the guy in the clip isn't imo.

    it was a question....ie ?

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    the dj producer in my opinion. quite unique, he has the oldskool hip-hop attitude
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    sekno is an amazing turntablist...but in all honesty...seen him do better in the flesh jst messing around than on that video...an old one aswell is it not?? i've been scratching since i was 19 and am comfortable with the level i'm at, having the 08 pro these days is an advantage because its a digital mixer and the faders are seriously tight, scratching over hiphop breaks dnb and especially breakcore is something i enjoy but spend more time mixing these days....got a couple of routines with some breakcore battle weapons.....might have to film it at some point and get it on youtube ;)

    always enjoy an 8 bar session wi sekonz when we're both up for it...end up jst cutting fer hours...even better fun wi the serato for recording our own vocal samples etc to cut up :)

    big ups tae sekno

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    Quote Originally Posted by FuK-NuT View Post
    havent taken offence m8 sorry if it reads like that but my questions are genuine and have purpose...and i know enough to know that its q-bert, if therez a cubert i appologies ;)
    Answers to your questions..

    "anybody else know of people into turntablism?" yes...me

    "what exactly do you mean by messy?" out of sync...not tight

    "reference?" Mixmaster Mike

    and yeah, theres only 1 Q-bert, the 1 you mean...and i stand by what i said about him.

    Not being funny...just making a point that i do know what im talking about with regards to scratching - turntablism......been into scratching since i was 16 years old....im now 30
    im just very critical thats all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siege View Post
    Answers to your questions..

    "anybody else know of people into turntablism?" yes...me

    "what exactly do you mean by messy?" out of sync...not tight

    "reference?" Mixmaster Mike

    and yeah, theres only 1 Q-bert, the 1 you mean...and i stand by what i said about him.

    Not being funny...just making a point that i do know what im talking about with regards to scratching - turntablism......been into scratching since i was 16 years old....im now 30
    im just very critical thats all.
    qbert is a turntablist wizard

    not forgetting others like...

    a-trak (won the dmc's when he was 13)
    craze
    plus one (also from edinburgh...sound dude)
    kintaro
    klever
    skully
    scratch perverts (playing edinburgh in sept)
    dj rafik
    shortkut
    d-styles
    c2c
    cutmaster swift

    to name but a few...

    ritchie rufftone is really good aswell....but a major fail on the gay RnB he plays these days:lol:

    :techno:
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    thats all very well and good but im more after knowing about the people who
    combine these skillz with techno, as asked!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FuK-NuT View Post
    thats all very well and good but im more after knowing about the people who
    combine these skillz with techno, as asked!
    scratchin over techno sounds shit imo..too slow..jerome hill is good at it but i still think its pretty wack..
    but i do like what sekno does wi the beat juggling and effects with techno

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    ive watched the video, some of it sounds good, some of it doesnt. of course its just a youtube uplaod also so probably alot of the sound quality will be lost. but imo in techno, there isnt a need to do as much as that anyway. subtle rather than OTT imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tamobanter View Post
    scratchin over techno sounds shit imo..too slow..jerome hill is good at it but i still think its pretty wack..
    but i do like what sekno does wi the beat juggling and effects with techno
    i dont care...i want to know who else does it in techno.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FuK-NuT View Post
    i dont care...i want to know who else does it in techno.
    nae bother lol

    mark n (hardcore techno) bangin turntablist....sure he won the uk dmc's at some point tae

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    Quote Originally Posted by FuK-NuT View Post
    i dont care...i want to know who else does it in techno.
    I personally used to subtley scratch stuff over the top of Techno many years ago, but now I very rarely mix vinyl (what with one of my decks being old/needing repair and developing my own kit etc.) I'm out of practice and probably value my records a bit more now :(

    I dunno about this being clinical with beats, it's just part of the whole showboating thing. I find sloppy offsetting stuff is fine, it's just train tracks you want to avoid :)

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    I dunno about this being clinical with beats, it's just part of the whole showboating thing. I find sloppy offsetting stuff is fine, it's just train tracks you want to avoid :)[/QUOTE]

    Just down to personal preference then isnt it;)

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    lol@ this thread

    Techno would be totally class - i'm NOT saying it isn't already - but if someone nailed juggling like Q-Bert. I haven't seen anyone at that calibre so ya'll get practising! I suppose Dave shades was ok but not MASHUP STYLEEEE.

    as for scratching over techno sounding too slow, i think you need to take a longer look at Jerome, Tam and study his fluency with regards to the music he plays at that moment. Gary is good at scratching, but at techno speed i think it all about different combinations i.e scribbling etc too.. like this shiz - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_FFe7lmPuA

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    I want to learn some turntabalism but I find it quite hard. I can however, scratch my arse.

 

 
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