cd single GOOD OR BAD ?

[stjohn]

no.. ive always hated cds...
they dont last... most cd players are pretty bad too.

[jon connor]

Yeah that`s a huge share of the market right now.

Can you just see those CD sales rising up like a mountain.

Cd is not the replacement for vinyl.

Those days ended somewhere in the 90`s, LAST CENTURY

No one is disputing that physical media is more pleasant for those of us old enough to care about it.
But the kids don`t care, and pretty soon there won`t be any ditributers left to carry any physical product, let alone all of a sudden deciding to plump for CD as their saviour.

dont want it to replace vynyl mate like i said to henry i would and i am thinking of doing this with my new label next year which will be vynyl, 2 months after release mp3 will go up and then i will look at backing up with a small amount of single cds , test the waters a bit.

[jon connor]

i never said it was a huge market but it is still a valid format for many people in the world so why be "snobbish" about it? if it gets your music to more people go for it i say

yes thankyou.

[jon connor]

no need for apologies :lol:....
it should be me saying sorry... my mates used to call me Corrector!

wot av you been at the magic aswell hehehehe no worrys man.

[jon connor]

There`s no snobbery, but who buys CD singles here?
Put your hands up?
How many people does everyone knows who buys CD?

The best trend to follow is the mainstream really.
Merchanidising

Most mid-level bands and acts in the mainstream area get a lot of their income now from merchandise rather than store sales of CD`s.

T-Shirts, CD`s blah blah, at point of gig.

For CD I think the best way to use them is to get a mix (almost a redundant commodity in terms of paying for them, but hey), or album of your tunes pressed up, and sell them at your gigs.

With manufacturing coming to about £1 - £1.50 a pop for a nice CD, you can sell em at a gig for a fiver.
A bargain for a full length CD.

That way the punter gets it cheap, and the artist gets more money percentage for their art, rather than the distributer and the store sucking up all the cash.

If everybody did this, we`d all benefit, and the scene would have just a little more strength to carry itself.

see wot you are saying mate but listen cd jay are everywhere now you cant get away kids will buy the cds because like everything else they want them because they look good. And mr gunjack up there has a very valid point

"valid format for many people in the world , if it gets your music to more people go for it i say go for it "

[jon connor]

http://www.wewow.co.uk/wowgallery.asp

waiting for quote will see wot comes back ive asked for a quote on 100 for now.

[dirty_bass]

If you really want CD`s, you can go here
http://www.cdjshop.com/boredofascrib...oductid=157347
apparently they releases digital stuff on CD, didn`t even know my stuff was stocked by them,let alone on CD.

So there you go.

[jon connor]

If you really want CD`s, you can go here
http://www.cdjshop.com/boredofascrib...oductid=157347
apparently they releases digital stuff on CD, didn`t even know my stuff was stocked by them,let alone on CD.

So there you go.

JESUS HOPE YOU BEEING PAID CORRECTLY HAHAH
shit im shouting again sorry steve bit drunk here phew , think ive blown is head off with avents apocalypto set hahahahah,IM ONLY HERE COZ ME MATE IS KNOKED THE FUK OUT AN IM BORED SPEAK TOMMOROW DUDE.

Wish i was in london lot going on this weeken aye fairplay .

[the_psychologist]

I would gladly pay $20 for a CD of 10 quality tunes from older labels, esp classic Acid. Say 23 Frankfurt went back to the masters and chose 10 quality tracks. I'd be on it. But there have been many unmixed compilation CDs already, and some of them either have shite mastering and/or were recorded from vinyl sources. They would need to be of pristine quality, maybe even remastered to sound better than ever. Singles of current tunes will not sell many units, methinks. May as well sell digital files and include high quality images of the artwork. Then people who want CDs can burn them and print out covers, and everyone else can use them as-is.

[jon connor]

I would gladly pay $20 for a CD of 10 quality tunes from older labels, esp classic Acid. Say 23 Frankfurt went back to the masters and chose 10 quality tracks. I'd be on it. But there have been many unmixed compilation CDs already, and some of them either have shite mastering and/or were recorded from vinyl sources. They would need to be of pristine quality, maybe even remastered to sound better than ever. Singles of current tunes will not sell many units, methinks. May as well sell digital files and include high quality images of the artwork. Then people who want CDs can burn them and print out covers, and everyone else can use them as-is.

nice angle man like it see wot you saying about old stuff im on this to would love it.

[gunjack]

i will make CD compilations of deafmosaic "classics" like "consume or be consumed" REMASTERED AND HUGE SOUNDING via my myspace/paypal next year.

[jon connor]

i will make CD compilations of deafmosaic "classics" like "consume or be consumed" REMASTERED AND HUGE SOUNDING via my myspace/paypal next year.

nice 1 man i will buy the gunjack classiscs mate they sum cool stuff there that quite frankly my vynyl is a bit overplayed an worn out, so a fresh wav version will be much apreciated mr gunjak, coz somtimes i buy a new record or mp3 wotever and instantly a track will come into my head to mix with it it could be 10 years old or 1 year old or bran new wotever, its nice to have a clean copy of a fav track you used to cain the ass outta,.

[jon connor]

ive decided to do this with my new label KONOFLEX im into it, @ the end of the day if you have a choice WAV mp3 u gunna go wav everytime .

[gunjack]

nice1 jon.

[jon connor]

yea hey gunjack do you remember that release which they made a mistake with the print and there was another producer who made a track with that really heavy amazing kick an base, god damm will have to dig it out wait , ahhhh GARRET DILLON i think i want that ep on cd single so much i would pay you double the price for it. me and that track have got serious history, ive droped that @ i my best and most memerable dj performances in the last years ive a speacial mix with it , not played for a while now tho, so wotts up with that guy any new stuff ?

[jon connor]

on topic tho listen guys get with the programm i love vynyl love it, also i dont mind mp3 in high quality format if i really want a tune i cant get , but however , how many kids now own cdj`s ? thousounds thats how many, and like everything else you want when you are young you want somthing that looks good, if you market and promote your cd in the right way , you gunna sale a lot more than the 500 press vynyl you got and still make you 2 pounds profit per unit. (they sell on average @ 5 pounds per disk. enough for distro and your self to make same profit a vynyl)

only the other day i went round sum up comming lads house the other day, who i help out with advice etc , theres about 4 of them, you no wot i saw ? i will tell you a cd wallet from all 4 of them with mostly cd singles from juno dj preach etc, there you go proof! that was the point i got it and decided to release my next project in that format.

here is 4 guys been mix for about a year or 2 and wot the buying to go with there new cdj 1000 etc cds that look good .

[gunjack]

jon: http://www.myspace.com/garrettdillon

[jon connor]

cheers mate will hit him up god dam that release he was legendary man will be waiting for the cd press and i will gladly be willing to pay for it , as some other your great releases man respect.

[RDR]

I think one of the points that's been kinda of hit on here but missed is that the CD, just like Vinyl was a primary format of delivery to the listener for a long time, they both (in their hayday) have been the most convenient way for people to buy and play CDs. Therefore people had the hardware to play their purchases on.

Vinyl players are now not cheaply available to the public anymore as CD players took over this mantle, and even though you can play a CD on almost anything, DVD player, Car stereo etc etc it doesnt really matter anymore. With CD the format was driven by the appearance of the format, the hardware to play followed. The same can partly be said to be true of MP3 (by MP3 i mean a lot of different digital playback formats) players appear offering greater convenience and better features than a CD player for the same cost and the consumer votes with their wallets by purchasing these players.

So what happens to CDs? IMO they become a promotional add-on for labels, after all what do they offer above and beyond MP3/MP3 players? better artwork? a permanence? for the most part yes... but i feel that its still a mental attitude that has its roots within the need to have a solid object in your hand that you paid money for. It feels more like you bought something rather than bought nothing. It hits right at the heart of the argument that music is intrinsically worth nothing. Think about it, if a person buys an MP3 and then burns it to CD, does it make the CD worth something or add on value to the MP3 file they bought? No... and No.

If they put it in their iPod.. does it make the mp3 worth more? probably not. But its the choice of the consumer, and their purchase choice for the playback of the mp3 certainly means more to them than it did before. No-one cares what's in your MP3 collection, but looky! at my! brand! new! mp3! player!

John lennon once said "People would like to put their favourite tunes onto one album from beatles songs, but it would cause trouble." (not an exact quote forgive me, but its near enough)

CD singles suffer far more from albums when it comes to production costs, making a CD single properly costs pretty much the same as an ablum (i think, prove me wrong people ) but the value of the content is diminshed, why do we think most of the majors used to put remixes on there?)

Just my 2p worth. I dont think CD is a bad format, i like it, i like things with nice pictures on and i only own a 2gb ipod. Mostly i listen to the radio. now that IS a 21st C classic ;)

[jon connor]

mate i just said before 4 guys in my town buying them is 4000 worldwide promote your single correctly its gunna get sold dont wanna put a dampner onit but its fact ive seen it for myself, kids upcoming anyone who is just starting out wants to have a track ep that when its in there cd wallet are satisfied they have the correct format WORD BUZZ FACTOR fuk this mp3 shite if your a dj buy your tracks in the correct format up to date an be proud.

wen you people gunna realise cdjs are the new turntables whether we like it or not, so why not graspe this new market with forget your mp3 bollox download an release a god cd single an get the rewards u deserve. and also mp3 a about 2 months after your cd release ahh i dunno its just a progression in my eyes .