Another day Another Rip off.

**davethedrummer** · 23-12-2008, 11:33 PM

If you want to know what happened to me in australia in november
check this out.

http://blogs.inthemix.com.au/davethedrummer

GRRRRRRRR!

**Athar** · 23-12-2008, 11:54 PM

bastards!!!

im sorry to hear that h
and i absolutely agreed,
guys like "Spiro" should go to the jail for something like that, no doubts
heh ...

**DannyBlack** · 24-12-2008, 12:09 AM

bloody hell. Shit, Henry I'm really gutted to hear you got treated like that. 1 thing mate, make sure you keep the emails sent to you saved.

Bad form though man, really bad form.

**tonyc2002** · 24-12-2008, 12:17 AM

Thats not exactly pennies is it......I'd be proper pissed too.

**RitchieP** · 24-12-2008, 12:22 AM

shouldnt have travelled without a deposit tbh

**rhythmtech** · 24-12-2008, 12:38 AM

wow.. speechless.

**DirtyHard** · 24-12-2008, 05:33 AM

Originally Posted by davethedrummer

If you want to know what happened to me in australia in november
check this out.

http://blogs.inthemix.com.au/davethedrummer

GRRRRRRRR!

MATE i hope 2009 brings you more luck with promoters
ass 2008 doesnt seem to be the luckiest

**RDR** · 24-12-2008, 08:29 AM

Not been your year has it H, thats payment **** up number 2.

My advice? : KILL KILL KILL!

**teknofilth** · 24-12-2008, 10:01 AM

seems like with the mp3 ripping "why should I pay for music" culture continuing, making artists rely more and more on live performances rather than revenue from their tunes to pay their way, wanker promoters like this ripping artists off needs to be addressed more urgently..is there some sort of union equivalent of Equity for actors that exists for DJs/performers? If there isn't..maybe there should be..perhaps rip-off promoters will be less likely to try this sort of thing on if they know that the Djs have access to some sort of shared fund that can be dipped into to use for legal fees to try and get back some of the money for things like this..

**Smear** · 24-12-2008, 11:33 AM

'I’ve been instructed by my lawyers that I have to cease trading in the interim

which includes all payments to creditors until litigation commences against various internet based sites that slandered my company and caused financial loss.'

Surely he means Libel and not Slander?

**BloodStar** · 24-12-2008, 12:48 PM

¨the Spiro guy is sick. sorry to hear this, man.

**gunjack** · 24-12-2008, 12:49 PM

you still got a scan of his credit card? do your xmas shopping with it. gotta get paid one way or the other right? what can he do about it?

**Smear** · 24-12-2008, 12:51 PM

That is actually a very good idea, haha.

**gunjack** · 24-12-2008, 01:03 PM

seriously you had an agreement, verbal and written (albeit informally)... this **** can't just "decide" to cancel payment. your services were rendedered. F U C K him if he wasn't weasely enough to think about the paper trail. should have thought of that before he promised a fee he couldn't deliver.

you go to a hotel and clean out the mini bar what happens? they charge it to your credit card. same damned thing.

**DannyBlack** · 24-12-2008, 01:48 PM

I'm not sure I would be able to tame this temper mine in that situation. I would have ended him there and then. It aint right and it aint fair. He took H away from his family and messed him around. That to me is absolutely disgusting.

**fils_here** · 24-12-2008, 02:53 PM

aw man, that spiro sounds a right cvnt!! hope you have some better luck in 2009 hery.

**dan the acid man** · 24-12-2008, 03:31 PM

People like that don't care one inch for the artists or the music, they're just out to make as much money as they can, without actually having any business sense what so ever.

They tempt artists in with promises of decent fees, then realise they can't afford the ammounts promised, and instead of being honest about it all, they just run off and hide without a care in the world.

**davethedrummer** · 26-12-2008, 06:45 PM

well like i said I had played for this guy before plenty of times
but i was very worried about the money BEFORE i went and very nearly didn't go.
but in the end I couldn't afford to just sit at home
I need that money it's the mortgage , the leccy bill etc etc ....
I CAN'T just sit at home just to prove a point, and i figured that maybe my show of solidarity might help once i got there.

It's very different to the Creamfields thing earlier on.
there was no worry about that, not until I got home and realized that they hadn't paid and weren't about to either.

So It's just so hard to play this game of russian roulette with promoters
sure you can say "you shouldn't have left the house without a deposit"

but put yourself in my shoes for a minute and you'll see why I did.
and i DID get something. so i did the right thing

And the credit card thing?
yeah but, come on, Fraud ? Seriously ?
I think I'll come off worse If I was to do it and get caught, don't you?

It's just crap isn't it?
However Spiro has had his beating so I have just discovered
and Peter has contacted me offering to " negotiate "
no apology, nothing humble like that, just saying he'll call me tonight
ON BOXING DAY!!!!LIKE I REALLY WANT TO SPEAK TO HIM ON MY DAY OFF!
he can piss right off!

GRRRRRRRR

**Tiptoe** · 26-12-2008, 08:18 PM

thats bull shit mate! hope everything works out mate.

**dan the acid man** · 26-12-2008, 09:18 PM

Yeah i can fully understand why you still decided to go out there, like you say, you can't live off your record releases alone in this current market, so any offer of putting food on the table has to be jumped on at the minute.

Hope you can get a bit more out of them anyway.

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