Music Losing It's Meaning

[DJPAUZE]

So just got off the tube with someone who is a pretty big artist (techno/trance) worldwide, won't mention any names. He brought up and interesting point about music these days and why he was quitting the business. He said with technology it's given the ability to so many artists to create music so easily. Music has no meaning anymore. He said "Back in the Day I would write a track, it would be huge. People would remember, play it for months. Now you write one and 2 weeks later it's forgotten".

Mind you this is only one aspect of why he's quitting but I couldnt help but feel the same way... Does that mean that artists arent spending enough time writting memorable tracks or is the market just to saturated with loads of music.....

Hope that came out right...

Discuss.

[Siege]

id say a bit of both..........tracks being thrown together in no time, adding to the heap of shite out there.

thats the problem with a lot of digital labels imo, no quality control........at least with vinyl, if its not good enough it aint being released, even though there is still some shit that gets pressed.

now anybody can throw something together and put it out there

[tocsin]

Never have bought this line of reasoning. Never will.

[ORIS]

Never have bought this line of reasoning. Never will.

+1

[SlavikSvensk]

it's all about perspective. most people think whatever's going on at the moment is sh*t compared to what they had when younger.

that said, music today is really sh*t :lol:

[ORIS]

It's always the bigger names that get shitty about the influx of new artists on the scene, more people producing music in my eyes can only be a good thing.

[Technologic]

Oh dear, someone's lost their mojo.

[Technologic]

I think music lost its money.

[clubsynthetic]

aye it sounds like he's not feeling the £. That, ultimately, is a stupid reason to stop making music

[tonyc2002]

Things are shifting and the price, sophistication, and availability of music software/hardware combined with the Internet is certainly a huge factor. This democratisation (in my opinion) is a good thing though. Music, like any art, should be free from elitism and open to all who wish to explore it and modern technology has allowed this.

[Jay Pace]

Music hasn't lost its meaning.

A few people have just been knocked off their pedestals.

Boo hoo for them.

[wrong]

"Back in the Day I would write a track, it would be huge. People would remember, play it for months. Now you write one and 2 weeks later it's forgotten"..

imo.. He answered his own question there.. just got the reasoning wrong... who was it? then we can judge whether his tunes are still 'biiig tuuunes' or if they've diluted into fodder whilst falling from the top of their game to trying to stay in the game ... or if indeed they ever were big tunes...
Everyone peaks... look at jimi hendrix john lennon and jim morrisson.... 100% if they were still alive they'd be peddling substandard diluted wishywashy pop droolings and not the balls out raw genius that they're known for, cos their lives were tragically cut short before they slipped unknowingly into mediocredom.

Also i feel, to be fair to the mystery quitter, that 'back then' there was more of a vibe.. COS IT WAS ALL FOR THE FIRST TIME ROUND.. whereas now, things (techno music genres/ new techno ideas) have pretty much run their course and the best that can be done with it is reverting, combining, splitting, creating hybrids, going back, being retro, rebranding, mutating, distorting, undistorting.. whereas back then there were genuine ideas that were being done for the first time so it was more exciting... but for the people who weren't there for the first time, i guess this is the first time.. so basically, what i'm trying to say is... erm.. not sure really
Who was it? ;)

[Darkmode]

id say a bit of both..........tracks being thrown together in no time, adding to the heap of shite out there.

thats the problem with a lot of digital labels imo, no quality control........at least with vinyl, if its not good enough it aint being released, even though there is still some shit that gets pressed.

now anybody can throw something together and put it out there

I agree I said the same thing about being more quality control on digital labels in my interview on beatportal last month

another thing I have noticed it's not about the music anymore it's about the money which is also why there is a lot of crap music that is getting released that all sounds the same basicly people making music for the sake of making it because of what is fashionable at the moment which makes me think are they into the music for the wrong reasons

[Siege]

another thing I have noticed it's not about the music anymore it's about the money which is also why there is a lot of crap music that is getting released that all sounds the same basicly people making music for the sake of making it because of what is fashionable at the moment which makes me think are they into the music for the wrong reasons

true

[TechMouse]

imo.. He answered his own question there.. just got the reasoning wrong... who was it? then we can judge whether his tunes are still 'biiig tuuunes' or if they've diluted into fodder whilst falling from the top of their game to trying to stay in the game ... or if indeed they ever were big tunes...
Everyone peaks... look at jimi hendrix john lennon and jim morrisson.... 100% if they were still alive they'd be peddling substandard diluted wishywashy pop droolings and not the balls out raw genius that they're known for, cos their lives were tragically cut short before they slipped unknowingly into mediocredom.

Also i feel, to be fair to the mystery quitter, that 'back then' there was more of a vibe.. COS IT WAS ALL FOR THE FIRST TIME ROUND.. whereas now, things (techno music genres/ new techno ideas) have pretty much run their course and the best that can be done with it is reverting, combining, splitting, creating hybrids, going back, being retro, rebranding, mutating, distorting, undistorting.. whereas back then there were genuine ideas that were being done for the first time so it was more exciting... but for the people who weren't there for the first time, i guess this is the first time.. so basically, what i'm trying to say is... erm.. not sure really
Who was it? ;)

Well said that man.

We need to meet up for a beer J. I lost your number in a phone crapness incident. Drop me a text or something.

[The_Laughing_Man]

There will always has been and always will be shitty music, and over commercial copycat shite, and good shite, and really out there shite, regardless of the accessability or not.
Wether it`s bands playing punk on cheap junk shop instruments or kids using software, music is no more accessable, it is just presentable in different forms.

Sounds like the moaning gimboid is just pining for more money.
Well you should have told him to try harder and make better music, rather than looking for excuses.

[DJPAUZE]

it's all about perspective. most people think whatever's going on at the moment is sh*t compared to what they had when younger.

that said, music today is really sh*t :lol:

Agreed.

And guys I would love to name drop, but I don't think he would appreciate it that much. He's a good guy and don't want to start any rumours about what his choices are.

And in fairness to the producer, that's not the only reason for this. He's done well financially, probably better than most. He's just gotten married and has a newborn so he wants to spend time with them atm.

Maybe its just a break, but we didnt get into that much detail.

Just thought this topic would provoke some discussion about the state of music.

[Technologic]

Things are shifting and the price, sophistication, and availability of music software/hardware combined with the Internet is certainly a huge factor. This democratisation (in my opinion) is a good thing though. Music, like any art, should be free from elitism and open to all who wish to explore it and modern technology has allowed this.

Indeed.

Still, modern technology has put a lot of people out of business, that can only be a bad thing really.

[aNaLpLeAsEr]

So just got off the tube with someone who is a pretty big artist (techno/trance) worldwide, won't mention any names. He brought up and interesting point about music these days and why he was quitting the business. He said with technology it's given the ability to so many artists to create music so easily. Music has no meaning anymore. He said "Back in the Day I would write a track, it would be huge. People would remember, play it for months. Now you write one and 2 weeks later it's forgotten".

Mind you this is only one aspect of why he's quitting but I couldnt help but feel the same way... Does that mean that artists arent spending enough time writting memorable tracks or is the market just to saturated with loads of music.....

Hope that came out right...

Discuss.

So basically this person has a gripe cos they don't get to hog the lime light as much anymore.

[BRADLEE]

poor guy needs a carne asada burrito and tequilla, he'll feel better and have some new inspiration then.