Techno artists whom you hated for changing their musical style

[JamieBall]

"looks like techno was replaced to another kind of music"

EXACTLY. IT'S BEEN WATERED DOWN BY ALL THE ****ING TRYHARDS FALLING OVER THEMSELVES TO PLAY AT AWAKENINGS AND TO SUCK THEIR OWN COCKS IN FRONT OF EVERYONE. IT'S NOT ABOUT THE MUSIC IT'S ABOUT BEING ACCEPTED BY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE FECKLESS "ROYALTY". DON'T ROCK THE BOAT. DON'T DO ANYTHING THREATENING/DIFFERENT. JUST PLOD ALONG ON YOUR PISS BORING COURSE MAKING TOTALLY AVERAGE MUSIC FOR THE TOTALLY AVERAGE PEOPLE WHO NOW LISTEN TO "TECHNO". THE LAST THING YOU WANT TO DO IS CHALLENGE YOURSELF OR OTHERS WITH SOMETHING DIFFERENT OR INTERESTING.

I'M NOT DOWN WITH THAT. ALL THESE PEOPLE SHOULD JUST GET THE **** OUT AND GO FIND ANOTHER GENRE TO RUIN. THERE IS NEXT TO >NO< GOOD TECHNO OUT THERE THESE DAYS, I DON'T GIVE A **** WHOSE NAME IS ATTACHED TO IT IT'S ALL (FOR THE VERY LARGE PART) UTTERLY THROWAWAY AND SOULLESS. LISTENING TO TECHNO SETS THESE DAYS I'M LIKE "DO YOU REALLY THINK THAT'S ****ING GOOD ENOUGH ?".

IT'S ALL A HAVEN FOR UTTER ****ING NERDS THESE DAYS. ENGINEERS, NOT ARTISTS. UNFORTUNATELY, THE IDIOTS HAVE OVERTAKEN THE ASYLUM.

[JamieBall]

Basically, in short, can someone just start ****ing rocking for a change ??

[MARK ANXIOUS]

Love Jamie's passion here. MASSIVE AGREEMENT with loads of this post, but loads I don't. Piss boring music - YES. Lack of talent - YES. It's so damn easy to sit in that studio with a copy of Ableton, bang together a track in 2 days - that only changes slightly every 32 bars. Oh yeah let's stick a break in - that'll sort it.

In fact, every style of music is suffering from this at the moment. Doesn’t even matter if it's techno.

But the real fault here lies with the promoters imho. Afraid to take risks, afraid to jump out of what's 'hot'. And what's 'hot' at the moment is the guy with the best press pic, the guy that is on FB/Twitter most, the guy with the new affiliation with the most 'in fashion' label. It's so XFactor isnt it. The easy option….

That's not saying you cant have a press pack, a nice website, look at least professional. Makes you feel professional. Why the hell not. I'm not messing around with my music so the 'image' of it is kind of important to me….

However, what I don’t agree with (and tbh the point of alot of this post) is that people can't change styles. Oh I must go in that nice little box forever and make only that kind of music. Well I'm sorry. I for one dont wanna do that. F**k you. I never signed up for that. TBH If we wanna get down to business - alot of the 'pure techno' that is talked about in this post is silly, cause pure techno is surely Detroit techno end of?

Which evolved from the 80’s.

Isn't the idea to just follow what you believe in, no matter what the style? And cant that change over time? Or am I missing the point of techno here?

Sure, you might not like Bas Mooy's new style, or anyone's new style for that matter, but you gotta say, well that's their choice. Get over it guys and do your own thing.

When Chrissi and I were making music in 2000 as The Anxious, we lost SERIOUS heart when techno went minimal. But ultimately, it made us change our ways in the studio, not sit in the past. And now, we feel like we have a massive message in our new music. It's not a carbon copy of the old message we had, but it's evolved, improved, futuristic. The point of techno.

We've never EVER sat there painting by numbers when we make techno, taking the easy option. We take up to 2 months doing a single track. That’s why it took 2 years to do our forthcoming album. And we feel massively motivated because of it. Passionate, focused, devoted. ALWAYS. Screw everyone else.

If I'm the only person liking it, I really dont care. **** you.

Surely that's techno?

www.theanxious.net

[qUE]

, cause pure techno is surely Detroit techno end of?"

Agree with you on most points, but this is wrong. Techno was developed long before Detroit, I don't give a shit what people say about the Belleville Three, it's complete marketing bullshit on their behalf. There were people creating Electronic stuff along the same lines as we'd call 909 long before the 909 actually existed.

And on the quote of being one tracked, it isn't as bad as it's touted to be, there must be a core of people keeping it true otherwise you'd have it all turn into a munge of shite, which the bandwagon lot are trying aren't they?

The laptop stuff sounds flat IMHO, you've only got to listen to the creators of Ableton, etc. music to see why it's like that. Plus the technology itself is really cheap and nasty, it's pretty much profit over quality these days regardless of how much you pay for it.

And yes, I am an authority on this :D

[yeswehavetheright]

The laptop stuff sounds flat IMHO, you've only got to listen to the creators of Ableton, etc. music to see why it's like that. Plus the technology itself is really cheap and nasty, it's pretty much profit over quality these days regardless of how much you pay for it.

And yes, I am an authority on this :D

Must agree, I find a lot of Monolake stuff sounds thin and digitized. Too much white noise

[DarkYoung]

what ever happened to dave the drummer?

[blistanbul]

what ever happened to dave the drummer?

he feels gutted he didn't produce the new daft punk album.

[djfilthmonger]

I like his sets that he has lately but I do miss the energy from the older stuff, That daft punk album is horrible :-(

[blistanbul]

Agree with you on most points, but this is wrong. Techno was developed long before Detroit, I don't give a shit what people say about the Belleville Three, it's complete marketing bullshit on their behalf. There were people creating Electronic stuff along the same lines as we'd call 909 long before the 909 actually existed.

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interesting post.

can you name some artists who you feel did that?

probably kraftwerk being one.

[qUE]

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interesting post.

can you name some artists who you feel did that?

probably kraftwerk being one.

This drum machine existed commercially in the 1950s for a start;
www.youtube.com/v/QLgyQG8Pu8s

YMO were using the term Techno in the 70s, hence Technopolis (I'm sure they're not the first)

Various synthesis pioneers like Raymond Scott, Max Mathews & Jean-Claude Risset, John Chowning (responsible for Yamaha's FM line), etc. were mucking around with sound modeling and sequencing long before synth keyboards became commercially available.

With enough searching around there's no doubt you'll find recordings of 4/4 rhythms. I know for a fact I've heard early Raymond Scott stuff with downtempo simple 4/4 on the MRI album.

Yeah sure you probably won't find the Disco/Funk influenced stuff pre-dating late 70s, but then Techno at its core isn't connected with those genres anyway.

[The Overfiend]

Love Jamie's passion here. MASSIVE AGREEMENT with loads of this post, but loads I don't. Piss boring music - YES. Lack of talent - YES. It's so damn easy to sit in that studio with a copy of Ableton, bang together a track in 2 days - that only changes slightly every 32 bars. Oh yeah let's stick a break in - that'll sort it.

In fact, every style of music is suffering from this at the moment. Doesn’t even matter if it's techno.

But the real fault here lies with the promoters imho. Afraid to take risks, afraid to jump out of what's 'hot'. And what's 'hot' at the moment is the guy with the best press pic, the guy that is on FB/Twitter most, the guy with the new affiliation with the most 'in fashion' label. It's so XFactor isnt it. The easy option….

That's not saying you cant have a press pack, a nice website, look at least professional. Makes you feel professional. Why the hell not. I'm not messing around with my music so the 'image' of it is kind of important to me….

However, what I don’t agree with (and tbh the point of alot of this post) is that people can't change styles. Oh I must go in that nice little box forever and make only that kind of music. Well I'm sorry. I for one dont wanna do that. F**k you. I never signed up for that. TBH If we wanna get down to business - alot of the 'pure techno' that is talked about in this post is silly, cause pure techno is surely Detroit techno end of?

Which evolved from the 80’s.

Isn't the idea to just follow what you believe in, no matter what the style? And cant that change over time? Or am I missing the point of techno here?

Sure, you might not like Bas Mooy's new style, or anyone's new style for that matter, but you gotta say, well that's their choice. Get over it guys and do your own thing.

When Chrissi and I were making music in 2000 as The Anxious, we lost SERIOUS heart when techno went minimal. But ultimately, it made us change our ways in the studio, not sit in the past. And now, we feel like we have a massive message in our new music. It's not a carbon copy of the old message we had, but it's evolved, improved, futuristic. The point of techno.

We've never EVER sat there painting by numbers when we make techno, taking the easy option. We take up to 2 months doing a single track. That’s why it took 2 years to do our forthcoming album. And we feel massively motivated because of it. Passionate, focused, devoted. ALWAYS. Screw everyone else.

If I'm the only person liking it, I really dont care. **** you.

Surely that's techno?

www.theanxious.net

BING!!!

[Craig_Lea]

The two artists I'm most disappointed in for knocking out boring shit nowadays are definitely Speedy J and Technasia, or technically, Charles Siegling.
Since Amil Khan left, Siegling seems content with the Minimal route. His DJ sets are piss poor too.

And Speedy J is even worse.
Changing styles is fine, I get it. No problem with that at all.
I just can't get my head around someone who has made banging Techno and beautiful electronica to be content with both producing and playing out metronomically boring shit.

This popped up on my SC stream this morning, so I thought I'd give it a chance.
FFS. Honestly, though, what the ****?

https://soundcloud.com/jochempaap/cl...t-217-speedy-j

Press play, and then skip through every couple of minutes or so at the highest points of the mix.
You know what I hear?
Pretty much exactly the same kick sound, and cock all variation, for an hour and ten minutes.

[yeswehavetheright]

Oliver Ho springs to mind. He's pushing a minimal sound, although the quality and some of the sounds he uses are still up there. Real shame as he made some of the best and most varied techno around in the late 90's/early 00's.

[qUE]

Heh, seems BBC sound effects dept. were also on the case in the 60s;

www.youtube.com/v/szE5D-dPs_Y

[monkeyflavours]

Nothing wrong with slowing something down to find a new groove.

[blistanbul]

i am bit of tired of your blocking answers too. do you speak to people from normal walks of like this to? when they say hi you say blue?

for example why don't you write something relevant? did you like the album or not?

[DarkYoung]

i am bit of tired of your blocking answers too. do you speak to people from normal walks of like this to? when they say hi you say blue?

for example why don't you write something relevant? did you like the album or not?

i'm more interested in your lack of support for the Turkish Spring.

[Microdot]

It's so damn easy to sit in that studio with a copy of Ableton, bang together a track in 2 days

Who the fcuk takes 2 days to finish a track?


jk mate ;)

[blistanbul]

i'm more interested in your lack of support for the Turkish Spring.

\of coarse i support and share the same feelings as the protestors.

the government showed its true face but unless there is a big economic crisis which can happen later this year, they will win comfortably as the anatolian and more religious fraction of the society will continue to vote for them.

secondly it was disgusting to watch the government send police to attack the protestors and not do anything to those police who broke the law.

by the way government blamed the jewish lobby. they kind of think like you.

[DarkYoung]

\of coarse i support and share the same feelings as the protestors.

the government showed its true face but unless there is a big economic crisis which can happen later this year, they will win comfortably as the anatolian and more religious fraction of the society will continue to vote for them.

secondly it was disgusting to watch the government send police to attack the protestors and not do anything to those police who broke the law.

by the way government blamed the jewish lobby. they kind of think like you.

quite.

btw i havent heard the new daft punk album, but i dont think i wll be doing so anyway. not really my bag.
they masde some good stuff about 13 years ago or so. then they went very lame. elevator/supermarket techno.